How to engage the autopilot - Auto Hover, Route, speed, altitude ?

[pappachuck]

I still could not engage auto hover, or any of those. I wanna be able to fly in straight line at constant speed too

[YoYo]

15 minutes ago, pappachuck said:

I still could not engage auto hover, or any of those. I wanna be able to fly in straight line at constant speed too

Auto hover in Hind?  its not Gazelle.

[pappachuck]

13 minutes ago, YoYo said:

Auto hover in Hind?  its not Gazelle.

It is a button on the autopilot panel. It is also a very real thing on the IRL Mi24

[Fri13]

 

1 hour ago, pappachuck said:

I still could not engage auto hover, or any of those. I wanna be able to fly in straight line at constant speed too

 

Check next to your left knee. You have all channels there. 

You press the buttons (Green = ON, Red = OFF) and you adjust them by trimming.

AFAIK you don't need to be rotating knobs that you see there, while they do work. 

You have your automatic speed holder, hover mode, route mode etc. 

 

[pappachuck]

10 minutes ago, Fri13 said:

 

 

Check next to your left knee. You have all channels there. 

You press the buttons (Green = ON, Red = OFF) and you adjust them by trimming.

AFAIK you don't need to be rotating knobs that you see there, while they do work. 

You have your automatic speed holder, hover mode, route mode etc. 

 

I saw that, and I used it. But it did not want to engage the autohover, route , speed or altitude modes. it simply does not turn on. those 4 on the bottom works fine though.

[Fri13]

13 minutes ago, pappachuck said:

I saw that, and I used it. But it did not want to engage the autohover, route , speed or altitude modes. it simply does not turn on. those 4 on the bottom works fine though.

 

Autohover requires you to be in very good condition (hover) to start. 

The route seemed to work for me, not sure about speed. 

 

Something kept turning off after a second or two, don't remember which one. 

 

[Raven434th]

4 hours ago, Fri13 said:

 

Autohover requires you to be in very good condition (hover) to start. 

The route seemed to work for me, not sure about speed. 

 

Something kept turning off after a second or two, don't remember which one. 

 

There's a tolerance setting in special settings for this

[solus]

I can't switch Hover Autopilot on as well. 

 

Pressing the button just don't do anything. I'm trying to maintain low speed and trimmed flight, but still didn't make it.

[Fri13]

13 hours ago, Raven434th said:

There's a tolerance setting in special settings for this

It is for the collective only, for the altitude.

[solus]

21 час назад, pappachuck сказал:

I still could not engage auto hover, or any of those. I wanna be able to fly in straight line at constant speed too

I think I got how to make it.

 

Auto hover can be turned on under several strict circumstances.

 

1) The speed under 50 kmph 

 

2) The helicopter must be leveled, e.g. be in parallel with the earth surface.

 

3) it must be trimmed, e.g. be in stable condition 

 

There is a panel to the left of your speed clock, it has flashing light. If the light is on it means you can't engage auto hover. If the light goes out, than it means that proper conditions for auto hover is met. 

 

It's quite tricky to go under 50 kmph in stable flight in Hind. Your collective (helicopter's thrust) should be at high levels, at least at 80%.

 

To fligh slow with fast working engine you should turn the nose of the helicopter about 20 degrees up before returning to the leveled flight. That's the hardest part.

 

I find it useful to turn yaw autopilot channel (H channel in the key bidings) before hovering to stabilize the helicopter. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RealDCSpilot]

I would also call it Hover Assist instead of Auto Hover.
Route mode did work on my end, just dial in a heading during a trimmed forward flight, engage route mode and it turns itself in the right direction.

Edited June 20, 2021 by RealDCSpilot

[Picure]

Sometimes I feel the best way to test autopilot features on an aircraft is to go in single player and turn on time compression (1 speed up) and see what each auto pilot function does. 

[TomChaai]

For hover, bring the helicopter into hover, make sure the doppler speedometer is working (the one on the left), then engage hover.

It may pitch up to kill residual forward speed, if it pitches up too much, the doppler may lose track of the ground and hover mode will trip off, so avoid any forward speed when clicking it.

[pappachuck]

Ok, it turns on but I cant tell if it works or not. I have no reference or official manuals to understand if the model is correct or not.
What are the parameters for each autopilot? 

[w4rlord117]

I can get mine to turn on but even in a perfect hover it just turns back off. Altimeter mode, whatever that is, I can’t get to turn on at all, the button depresses but doesn’t light up green.

[VampireNZ]

10 minutes ago, w4rlord117 said:

I can get mine to turn on but even in a perfect hover it just turns back off. Altimeter mode, whatever that is, I can’t get to turn on at all, the button depresses but doesn’t light up green.

Could be a few reasons - all your avionics turned on correctly? AP channels on (all 3 except far right B/Blade channel).

Stable hover with 'hands-off' cyclic trim set. Engage Hover AP button and Altitude Button - the latter will enable the fourth AP channel 'B' to control the blade pitch and maintain height. Hands-off and it will hold a nice steady hover.

[sublime]

8 hours ago, RealDCSpilot said:

I would also call it Hover Assist instead of Auto Hover.
Route mode did work on my end, just dial in a heading during a trimmed forward flight, engage route mode and it turns itself in the right direction.

 

Where do you enter the heading?

Also does anyone know where you would enter ndb freqs?

Is the backmost channel knob for the radio or nav?

[VampireNZ]

AP Heading - There is a knob with a small window above it just below your MGL handle panel.

 

No option to bind that knob to anything, and the mod someone made to add keybinds doesn't work correctly for it.

Edited June 21, 2021 by VampireNZ

[w4rlord117]

2 hours ago, VampireNZ said:

Could be a few reasons - all your avionics turned on correctly? AP channels on (all 3 except far right B/Blade channel).

Stable hover with 'hands-off' cyclic trim set. Engage Hover AP button and Altitude Button - the latter will enable the fourth AP channel 'B' to control the blade pitch and maintain height. Hands-off and it will hold a nice steady hover.

Yea I had all the autopilot channels on, and all switches on. By perfect hover I mean I was sitting there with my hands in my lap because I trimmed it out and just had it hovering there completely still and completely unattended.

 

The ‘hover’ channel will come on and light up green, it even shakes the helicopter around a little but then goes back to off within about 5 seconds. 

[VampireNZ]

5 minutes ago, w4rlord117 said:

Yea I had all the autopilot channels on, and all switches on. By perfect hover I mean I was sitting there with my hands in my lap because I trimmed it out and just had it hovering there completely still and completely unattended.

 

The ‘hover’ channel will come on and light up green, it even shakes the helicopter around a little but then goes back to off within about 5 seconds. 

 

Sry not sure then - working fine over here. Can only think you were too heavy/hot or windy maybe?

[w4rlord117]

2 minutes ago, VampireNZ said:

 

Sry not sure then - working fine over here. Can only think you were too heavy/hot or windy maybe?

Heavy is certainly a possibility. I was loaded up with all the aux tanks I could fit and had full internal fuel.

[VampireNZ]

Just now, w4rlord117 said:

Heavy is certainly a possibility. I was loaded up with all the aux tanks I could fit and had full internal fuel.

 

Yea it is real easy to overload the Hind, 4 ATGM and 4 rocket pods and you can only take 30% fuel!

Tried taking off with full weapons and fuel....even 100 knots down the runway and no lift off lol.

[jojo]

3 hours ago, w4rlord117 said:

Yea I had all the autopilot channels on, and all switches on. By perfect hover I mean I was sitting there with my hands in my lap because I trimmed it out and just had it hovering there completely still and completely unattended.

 

The ‘hover’ channel will come on and light up green, it even shakes the helicopter around a little but then goes back to off within about 5 seconds. 

I did have some luck with Hover mode, but I had to try to achieve a manual hover first, then engage auto hover.

sometimes the first try does disconnect, I just push again and it’s ok the second time.

I have the buttons on my throttle, so it’s easier than clicking with the mouse.

 

I managed to get HOVER + ALTITUDE, after finding the right spot it became very stable.

[TomChaai]

3 hours ago, w4rlord117 said:

Yea I had all the autopilot channels on, and all switches on. By perfect hover I mean I was sitting there with my hands in my lap because I trimmed it out and just had it hovering there completely still and completely unattended.

 

The ‘hover’ channel will come on and light up green, it even shakes the helicopter around a little but then goes back to off within about 5 seconds. 

Check your doppler speedometer on the upper left, if the helicopter pitches up too much, it will trip out because the doppler radar cannot capture ground signals and AP hover mode will trip off as well.

so make the helicopter almost perfect standstill before trying the AP hover mode.

[VampireNZ]

Just some info I found...

 

In the hovering mode, spontaneous deactivation of the AFCS, caused
by a short-term transition of the Doppler meter to the Memory
mode is possible in case gf AFCS self-deactivation in the mode of steady
hovering, it is allowed to activate it again.
Spontaneous deactivation of the AFCS, as a rule, occurs when hovering
over water surface and over a helipad with concrete or metal paving.