SQINTO Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Flying in VR (Reverb G2) I find that the trim has no effect. I can trim full up/down nose trim with no change. Normal cruise is slightly nose down stick irrespective of trim settings. Similarly rudder and aileron trim don't appear to have any effect either. Indicators move but no change in stick force. Trim controls bound to HOTAS 4 way and slider (rudder). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted September 18, 2021 ED Team Share Posted September 18, 2021 What stick do you have? Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 i have the same issue no trim despite what controls I map on keyboard or stick. TM warthog Stick and Throttle HP Reverb. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai-San Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Thank god it's not just me then, Quest 2 in VR and no trim control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morat Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Weird, I mapped trim to my Trim Hat on the Warthog and it's working fine. I put the rudder trim on the A-10s MFD selector switch. Where I did notice an issue was when a Human navigator tried to change the trim. He could see the tabs moving and I couldn't - so the trim had no effect. Reverb G2 here as well. Can you see the tabs moving on your plane when it doesn't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdave1340 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 same issue saitek x52 hotas. with ocr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombit Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Same issue here, I see the dials moving but no noticeable effect. Warthog with Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rem27 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Same issue here Virpil MangoosT-50 cm2 Intel® Core i7-7700K @4,20GHz - 64 Go RAM - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti - Windows Pro 64 bit - Stream Deck - HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQINTO Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 I am using a Virpil Alpha stick and MangoosT-50 cm2. Trim bound directly (not via keyboard buttons) to Flight Control/Trim xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dokken1212 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I too have a Warthog and see my up/down trim working okay but left and right I have to basically turn the dial to the 7/8 o'clock position before I see any input having an effect. Computer Specs: AMD Ryzen 9 3900x Thermaltake 360 AIO Water Cooler 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3600Mhz RGB RAM GeForce RTX 2080 Super [ NVIDIA] 512GB Adata M2 NVME (boot drive) 1TB Adata M2 NVME 1TB WD Blue SSD Corsair RM850x Power Supply Phanteks Enthoo Evolve Case Samsung 43" 4K Smart TV (used as monitor) TRACK IR 5 + Wireless DelanClip Head Tracker Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS :pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikke_EAF331 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I'm also having problems with trim. I have elevator and rudder trim set on analogue axes, but aileron trim on a hat. Same settings work perfectly on the Spit and ok on the P-47. Elevator trim seems to be extremely sensitive. Aileron trim on the hat doesn't seem to do anything. And rudder trim I can't seem to figure out, I see the trim indicator change, but I can't say that the trim actually changes from the way the plane fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiddenxreaper Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The elevator trim is just very sensitive compared to the ruder and aileron, so you have to hold them for a longer time to see an effect. Everyone says that the rudder is small and ineffective not sure about the aileron trim tabs. Could be functioning correctly. And I find that if I trim the rudder indicator to the T in the word trim on the starboard side it works pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krill Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I'm having the same issue as the OP, playing in VR (Reverb G2) with X56, elevator trim moving but having zero effect even if full trim in either direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Does work for me, G2 and FFB2 (force center is shifting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodBorza Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Mikke_EAF331 said: I'm also having problems with trim. I have elevator and rudder trim set on analogue axes, but aileron trim on a hat. Same settings work perfectly on the Spit and ok on the P-47. Elevator trim seems to be extremely sensitive. Aileron trim on the hat doesn't seem to do anything. And rudder trim I can't seem to figure out, I see the trim indicator change, but I can't say that the trim actually changes from the way the plane fly. Take a look at this: Yep, I was having the same problem with the overly sensitive trim. 1 This is an amazing sim! 'Nuff said!:pilotfly: YouTube: SloppyDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) Trim works sweet for me. Warthog combined. All inputs cleared, then I set the axis values. All trim axis set in the Thrustmaster GUI as keyboard inputs. Trim seems fine enough to set hands free flight.... for a short period. Edited September 21, 2021 by Rogue Trooper HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krill Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Think I've solved this, if you have any other controllers attached to your machine (I have a Logitech G29 steering wheel) In the control options menu for the Mossie click the dropdown box for any other controller you have (apart from your stick & throttle) & select 'clear all categories' even if you have no key binds at all in there, then hit the dropdown again & select 'disabled'. This seemed to activate my trim controls in the Mossie. Even if you have other usb inputs attached & they are already disabled in DCS still follow the steps above, my steering wheel was already 'disabled' in DCS but unchecking 'disabled' then clearing all categories then rechecking 'disabled' again worked. Not sure about the reason for it but it worked for me. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikke_EAF331 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 That is interesting @Krill. Also probably means that I'm out of luck for the time being as I have the trim as axes on one joystick, and using another HOTAS for throttle and stick input, as well as rudder pedals separate from the rest. @RodBorzathanks, but I take it that the solution you linked to is for using button inputs to trim? I am considering giving up on using axes and try with a trim hat instead, but the axes works so good on the Spitfire that I would prefer to keep that solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodBorza Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 6:28 AM, Mikke_EAF331 said: That is interesting @Krill. Also probably means that I'm out of luck for the time being as I have the trim as axes on one joystick, and using another HOTAS for throttle and stick input, as well as rudder pedals separate from the rest. @RodBorzathanks, but I take it that the solution you linked to is for using button inputs to trim? I am considering giving up on using axes and try with a trim hat instead, but the axes works so good on the Spitfire that I would prefer to keep that solution. @Mikke_EAF331the solution shown is for using buttons as trim. But if you use analog axis, it is a way better solution than using buttons. With axis you can fine tune the trim very well. This is an amazing sim! 'Nuff said!:pilotfly: YouTube: SloppyDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikke_EAF331 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 5:07 AM, RodBorza said: With axis you can fine tune the trim very well. Yes, that is normally the case, but on release it didn't work so good for me. After the latest patch the rudder trim started working ok, and maybe if I tune my settings for elevator trim that will also work ok. I'm not sure if they did change anything that specifically has to do with the trim, or if the improvement somehow has to do with the update to negative g effect on the engines, or something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huchanronaa Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 it was not possible to fly the aircraft "hands off" except on the climb, and trimming is difficult. This is the focus of the manual during World War II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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