Petercove Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Hi, Can someone please explain what the cross in the FPM is supposed to represent and how to get rid of it? I am attempting to fly the F-16 Cluster bomb tutorial and this cross is present most of the time. Cheers Peter Coveney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) It appears when the FPM is out of the HUD limits. Edited November 20, 2021 by razo+r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petercove Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 There doesnt seem to be any way to get the pitch ladder/FPM to align centrally between the HUD left and right sides. I dont think it is to do with wind as the error is unchanged on all points of the compass. The aircraft appears normal in the outside view (rudder is central). I tried another training scenario and its the same. Any ideas to fix this much appreciated. Picture taken on a heading of 090 but on a heading of 270 its identical. ie out to the left. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petercove Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 I think this could be the problem. Incorrect INS alignment. I guess this means the tutorials are not much use if they start in the air? Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 If you start in the air, the INS should be properly aligned by default unless you mess around with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petercove Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 HI, No. I never touch it. The lessons are bit porked anyway. For example with the CBU87 tutorial the screens are blank so so you have to move the battery switch to main pwr and cancel out the master caution warning. Then the INS is skew whiff judging by the misaligned pitch ladder. I am guessing the tutorials were done before the big upgrade to the INS system. I have ended up designing a simple mission similar to the tutorial. Just need to see how to make my steerpoint #3 the designated target spot for CCRP bombing. CCIP bombing works as long as the steerpoint is selected in the DED but not CCRP. Fun and games. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon715 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 you don't have something bound to the alignment knob and controls set to mirror your hotas on start do you?...could be placing INS knob to off immediately entering the jet. Any issues any other time? I see you say another training scenario this happened which leads me to believe my suggestion would help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petercove Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 Hi, I can check the tutorial again and see but from memory it was set to Nav. I have lost count of the mission editor Youtube videos I have scanned this afternoon trying to fond how to make a simple mission whereby my third steerpoint becomes the focus for my CBUs using CCRP but they also presuppose you have a TGP fitted. I was hoping the mission editor would let you edit the waypoint to say "This is the target". But there isnt that option. In the tutorial there isnt a TGP fitted . Hmm. A bit frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 You can only set up waypoints in the mission editor. It is then up to you in the aircraft to select which one shall be used for attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasA Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 vor 15 Stunden schrieb Petercove: There doesnt seem to be any way to get the pitch ladder/FPM to align centrally between the HUD left and right sides. I dont think it is to do with wind as the error is unchanged on all points of the compass. The aircraft appears normal in the outside view (rudder is central). I tried another training scenario and its the same. Any ideas to fix this much appreciated. Picture taken on a heading of 090 but on a heading of 270 its identical. ie out to the left. Peter This happens when you fly through strong crosswind- or the INS is faulty. I'll assume the INS is alright. You might center the pitch ladder at any time by selecting DRIFT C/O underneath the ICP (that switch below the "numpad", underneath the "0 M/SEL" button). This will cut off the wind part of the FPM. However this is not so wise if you intent to use CCRP bombing. But for general navigation it will work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Deano87 Posted November 21, 2021 Solution Share Posted November 21, 2021 This is definitely an INS issue. It sounds like you’re turning the jet off when you spawn? Which will clear your INS alignment. If you have a HOTAS warthog check your flap switch on the throttle as that is normally assigned to main power. 1 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCaboose Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Petercove said: HI, No. I never touch it. The lessons are bit porked anyway. For example with the CBU87 tutorial the screens are blank so so you have to move the battery switch to main pwr and cancel out the master caution warning. Then the INS is skew whiff judging by the misaligned pitch ladder. I am guessing the tutorials were done before the big upgrade to the INS system. I have ended up designing a simple mission similar to the tutorial. Just need to see how to make my steerpoint #3 the designated target spot for CCRP bombing. CCIP bombing works as long as the steerpoint is selected in the DED but not CCRP. Fun and games. Peter The tutorial isn't borked. Something in your bindings is. 1 476th vFG Website, 476th vFG Discord, 476th vFG Pipeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petercove Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 Many thanks for this. " If you have a HOTAS warthog check your flap switch on the throttle as that is normally assigned to main power." I checked my control binding and sure enough the HOTAS flap switch is assigned to main power. And my switch was in the down position. I dont think I would found this for a very long time. Thanks again, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Petercove said: Many thanks for this. " If you have a HOTAS warthog check your flap switch on the throttle as that is normally assigned to main power." I checked my control binding and sure enough the HOTAS flap switch is assigned to main power. And my switch was in the down position. I dont think I would found this for a very long time. Thanks again, Peter No Problem! Glad you figured out your issue. Out of habit from flying other modules on more than one occasion I selected "flaps down" on the downwind for landing and turned all the electrics off lol. That binding got changed pretty quickly after that. D Edited November 22, 2021 by Deano87 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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