Chaff

[Trettifire]

So, since ED is doing BS3...

Could we please please have chaff as an option for defensive countermeasures? It would be a great add-on so we don't have to get torn a new one by the 2S6 and the SA-15 all the time.

I'm thinking chaff on one side and flares on the other, configurable just like with the F/A-18.

 

And it would not mess with the realism (I know it's just wikipedia but still):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50

 

Thank you

[razo+r]

Just to let you know, the Tunguska doesn't care about chaff, at least in DCS.

[Trettifire]

16 hours ago, razo+r said:

Just to let you know, the Tunguska doesn't care about chaff, at least in DCS.

Are you talking 30mm, missiles, or just in general?

[razo+r]

Both its guns and missiles. 

[Trettifire]

Good to know, thanks. It sure as s**t does not care about flares. The wish still stands, though. 

[Hobel]

On 11/24/2021 at 7:47 PM, razo+r said:

Just to let you know, the Tunguska doesn't care about chaff, at least in DCS.

In real life, they are also optically steered, aren't they?

[Mars Exulte]

On 11/24/2021 at 12:40 PM, Trettifire said:

So, since ED is doing BS3...

Could we please please have chaff as an option for defensive countermeasures? It would be a great add-on so we don't have to get torn a new one by the 2S6 and the SA-15 all the time.

I'm thinking chaff on one side and flares on the other, configurable just like with the F/A-18.

 

And it would not mess with the realism (I know it's just wikipedia but still):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50

 

Thank you

Tunguska's missiles are not radar guided, it just uses it for tracking, but is not dependent on it for either guns or missiles.

As for radar guided missiles in general, you should not be high enough for them to see you in the first place, so... that's on you 90% of the time. As for the Sa-15 specifically, that is probably one of the absolute worst things you could run into in the field, as it's intended as point defense for intercepting low flying targets and even missiles. Chaff probably won't do you much good as you'll be dead by the time you know it's shooting at you

But again, if you're getting spotted by radar SAMs, either you're too high or coming from a bad direction or simply should be going someplace else. There is no cure for bad tactics except good ones. IE if you're getting killed by blundering into situations you shouldn't be in, the solution is NOT doing that, not some stuff on your aircraft.

Edited December 25, 2021 by Mars Exulte

[Trettifire]

Yeahhhh...I'm not disagreeing with you but the real Ka-50 did have chaff, didn't it?

[AlphaOneSix]

1 hour ago, Trettifire said:

Yeahhhh...I'm not disagreeing with you but the real Ka-50 did have chaff, didn't it?

No

[Trettifire]

Wow. I guess all these sites are wrong, along with RT's documentary on the Ka-50. But I'm sure you know best.

 

https://www.airvectors.net/avka50.html

 

https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=286

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50

 

https://man.fas.org/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50.htm

 

http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/kamov_ka50_hokum.htm

 

And before the trenches here get any deeper, I threw out the 2S6 as an example because you can use chaff to throw off radar. You also have the issue with airborne threats and their radar missiles. The reason I wanted chaff was that it was on the actual aircraft, regardless of A16s opinion, and that it should be fairly easy to implement for ED. 

[AlphaOneSix]

Okay you mean that the Ka-50 has the physical ability to have chaff cartridges installed into the UV-26 launcher buckets. Fair enough. I'm assuming you would just use the UV-26 as-is and just select left/right/both for flares/chaff/both?