correct as-is a bit of reality please

[StopLight]

Ok... I get it, its a work in progress... BUT:

Y'all have nerfed the Viper enough. If the real Viper had a radar this bad, it wouldn't have been the premier fighter in the USAF for 20+yeaars. Cant see anything beyond 40nm? Cant lock within 20nm? Come on..... and no i don't have video clips, ED you know you set it up this way!

Enough is enough!!!!

[BIGNEWY]

If you think there is a bug provide a user track and any evidence you have. 

thanks

[Mars Exulte]

5 hours ago, StopLight said:

it wouldn't have been the premier fighter in the USAF for 20+yeaars.

  The Viper is not and never was the ''premier'' air to air fighter (the first ones did not even CARRY radar guided missiles). It's too small for a more powerful radar, for starters. The F-15 (and later F-22) are the ''premier'' air to air fighters, designed for that role specifically. The F-16 is a jack of all trades ''do everything competently'' kind of aircraft. Adjust your expectations accordingly.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Mars Exulte

[Hobel]

Are there any documents stating the performance of the f16 radar?

I have also heard from certain sources that the radar of the F16 can probably not quite get there as it is now.

But without proper sources such things simply have no weighting and are therefore worthless.

[fapador]

22 hours ago, Mars Exulte said:

The Viper is not and never was the ''premier'' air to air fighter (the first ones did not even CARRY radar guided missiles). It's too small for a more powerful radar, for starters. The F-15 (and later F-22) are the ''premier'' air to air fighters, designed for that role specifically. The F-16 is a jack of all trades ''do everything competently'' kind of aircraft. Adjust your expectations accordingly.

The Viper was the premier USAF aircraft before the raptor and the most succesfull ever in exports . USAF operated 2213 F16s and less  than 500 F15 all variants included in total

also I think you confuse premier air to air fighter with premier air superiority fighter...

[Mars Exulte]

5 hours ago, fapador said:

premier

     This word does not mean what you seem to think it means.

5 hours ago, fapador said:

the most succesfull ever in exports

  Which is completely irrelevant when talking about the performance of its radar.

5 hours ago, fapador said:

USAF operated 2213 F16s and less  than 500 F15 all variants included in total

  Again, irrelevant.

5 hours ago, fapador said:

also I think you confuse premier air to air fighter with premier air superiority fighter...

  These terms are not as separate as you seem to think they are, in short ''air superiority'' means the aircraft is dedicated toward seizing airspace, ie F-15s and F-22s. The Viper is an excellent dogfighter close in, but it's markedly inferior at BVR to ANY larger dedicated air superiority fighter.

Everyone say it with me now, ''Bigger plane, bigger radar. Smaller plane, smaller radar.'' It's literally that simple, barring some drastic generational gap and even then the smaller radar may be overall more capable/fancy but still is likely to have inferior range and power... because it's smaller. Your wife lied. Size matters.

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Mars Exulte

[fapador]

15 minutes ago, Mars Exulte said:

Bigger plane, bigger radar. Smaller plane, smaller radar

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16 minutes ago, Mars Exulte said:

Which is completely irrelevant when talking about the performance of its radar

I didn't say anything about the radar. I wouldn't even dare to start such a discussion as such information regarding radar performance is classified. There is also very little information out there. 

You insist on size, but disregard the fact that the F16 fleet size is quadruple in numbers in the US Air Force and has the most trained crew by numbers... 

F15 is the backbone of the airforce nothing premier about it. The f16 on the other hand is so popular it even  has its own display team .. the Thunderbirds

[Deano87]

35 minutes ago, fapador said:

didn't say anything about the radar. I wouldn't even dare to start such a discussion as such information regarding radar performance is classified.

This is a thread about the aircrafts radar performance. Not sure if you noticed lol. If you're replying to said thread then It can fairly be assumed that you're also talking about the subject that the thread is about.

[Harker]

Are there any documents stating the performance of the f16 radar?
I have also heard from certain sources that the radar of the F16 can probably not quite get there as it is now.
But without proper sources such things simply have no weighting and are therefore worthless.

What sources? And which radar would that be? The (V)9 or the (V)5 which we actually have? It's likely that any person with current experience on ANG Vipers would be using the (V)9 as reference.

Right now, the Viper's radar is probably even a tiny bit better than it should be in terms of detection range, based on the fact that RWS and TWS are MPRF-only modes.

[Geraki]

It is WIP the ACM mode need work  like BORE mode  MUST automaticaly lock everything it is below 10 miles inside the cross without delay, the same for  ACM line 10X60 but......  i hope it is WIP 

Also we have to see the slew mode also we will se in near feature!!!

 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Geraki