IronMike Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Jaakov said: Q1 2024? You misspelled Two Weeks. 13 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BringTheReign_ Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 34 minutes ago, IronMike said: You misspelled Two Weeks. My left brain: It's releasing in two weeks! My right brain: It's obviously the DCS 2 weeks meme! 3 https://youtube.com/@thesimnet questions@thesimnet.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peet Maverick Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Stackup said: Oh come on, be optimistic here, they thought they could have it done in 2022 until they were delayed, I very much doubt they need another full year to be ready for release. yeah, I bet on February... I feel need, The need for speed! Modules: F-14A/B Tomcat | UH-1H | L-39 Albatros | Spitfire LF Mk.IX | Mig-15bis | P-47D Thunderbolt | Supercarrier | Combined Arms Wish List: F-4E | A-6E Intruder Terrains: Persian gulf | Nevada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaakov Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Peet Maverick said: yeah, I bet on February... I bet on reveal trailer some time during jan 2024 and then each video covering various systems being released on yearly basis with early acces starting during q2 2029. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasnkova74 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 My total shot in the dark guess is December 2024. It looks close, but the F-4E is such a beast + the Jester AI that there’s assuredly lot of moving parts to test, fix & retest . Even simple software changes can tie up teams for months on validation>publish>UAT cycles. Even if the jet was “done” today I can easily picture testing & documentation taking the rest of the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stackup Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Kalasnkova74 said: My total shot in the dark guess is December 2024. It looks close, but the F-4E is such a beast + the Jester AI that there’s assuredly lot of moving parts to test, fix & retest . Even simple software changes can tie up teams for months on validation>publish>UAT cycles. Even if the jet was “done” today I can easily picture testing & documentation taking the rest of the year. You're kidding right? Sure they got delayed but this forum has gone from "They'll still release it in 2022!!" to "They need another 2 years" really quickly... If they thought they could be done by the end of the year at the start of 2022, I believe them. Even with the current unknowns of the type of setbacks besides time they have experienced, I doubt they need 2 more years. I'm expecting a release sometime in the first half of this year since that's about the same time they lost due to the war give or take a few weeks. 1 Aircraft: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-5E, FC3, AV-8B, Mirage 2000C, L-39, Huey, F-86, P-51, P-47, Spitfire, Mosquito, Supercarrier Maps: Persian Gulf, Syria, NTTR, Marianas, Normandy 2, Channel Upcoming Modules Wishlist: A-7E, A-6E, F-4, F-8J, MiG-17F, A-1H, F-100D, Kola Peninsula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasnkova74 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Stackup said: You're kidding right? Sure they got delayed but this forum has gone from "They'll still release it in 2022!!" to "They need another 2 years" really quickly... If they thought they could be done by the end of the year at the start of 2022, I believe them. Even with the current unknowns of the type of setbacks besides time they have experienced, I doubt they need 2 more years. I'm expecting a release sometime in the first half of this year since that's about the same time they lost due to the war give or take a few weeks. I’m serious. The F-4 module’s software test & validation can easily take as much or even more time than making the plane in the first place. Example; launching a Sidewinder. It’s not enough to verify the player can launch a Sidewinder one time. Heatblur’s testing team has to verify the player can launch a Sidewinder against multiple targets, types of targets, and on all maps. Lots of work given DCS’s AI and player vehicle inventory. Then Heatblur has to do it all over again, except now with the other three rails. Then they have to test the “failure function” scenario. Meaning situations where the player tries to launch a Sidewinder but it shouldn’t fire due to a configuration switch. So HB has to test all those scenarios but with the Master Arm off. This process must be repeated for every interactive system in the module. If and when a bug’s found, it has to be troubleshot, fixed and the scenario retested until the problem’s eliminated. The more bugs found, the longer the process takes. Because software is dependent on certain elements, you can’t check some things until other items are done. Practical example; if Heatblur’s still working on the radar, they can’t test AIM-7 functionality. It’s a process that is inherently unpredictable , absolutely necessary and notoriously wrecks schedules. One stubborn bug can hold up a code project for weeks. Between testing and documentation , I can credibly see it being another calendar year before the F-4s ready and released. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceCriminal86 Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Kalasnkova74 said: I’m serious. The F-4 module’s software test & validation can easily take as much or even more time than making the plane in the first place. Example; launching a Sidewinder. It’s not enough to verify the player can launch a Sidewinder one time. Heatblur’s testing team has to verify the player can launch a Sidewinder against multiple targets, types of targets, and on all maps. Lots of work given DCS’s AI and player vehicle inventory. Then Heatblur has to do it all over again, except now with the other three rails. Then they have to test the “failure function” scenario. Meaning situations where the player tries to launch a Sidewinder but it shouldn’t fire due to a configuration switch. So HB has to test all those scenarios but with the Master Arm off. This process must be repeated for every interactive system in the module. If and when a bug’s found, it has to be troubleshot, fixed and the scenario retested until the problem’s eliminated. The more bugs found, the longer the process takes. Because software is dependent on certain elements, you can’t check some things until other items are done. Practical example; if Heatblur’s still working on the radar, they can’t test AIM-7 functionality. It’s a process that is inherently unpredictable , absolutely necessary and notoriously wrecks schedules. One stubborn bug can hold up a code project for weeks. Between testing and documentation , I can credibly see it being another calendar year before the F-4s ready and released. 1) This is a discussion on liveries for the F-4E 2) Those are bold words for someone who hasn't seen the folks that contribute to HB's testing crew in full swing 3) This is a discussion about F-4E liveries 6 Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™ VF-11 and VF-31 1988 [WIP] VF-201 & VF-202 [WIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinlein Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 hace 10 horas, IronMike dijo: You misspelled Two Weeks. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasnkova74 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 hours ago, LanceCriminal86 said: 1) This is a discussion on liveries for the F-4E 2) Those are bold words for someone who hasn't seen the folks that contribute to HB's testing crew in full swing 3) This is a discussion about F-4E liveries …then why are the last three posts people commenting on the release date instead of the liveries? IMO, further discussion on that topic is useless. HB’s not sitting on a finished F-4E module just to torture us out of spite. When it’s ready it’ll come. If it’s next week or next year I’ll be happy either way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backy 51 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Don't forget the 21st TFTS Cheetahs ... I don't need no stinkin' GPS! (except for PGMs :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtPappy Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Need more 3rd TFW liveries! My parents' home country never flew Phantoms, but they certainly hosted them... This one without TISEO matches our first DCS F-4E perfectly. Edited January 12, 2023 by SgtPappy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy123 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 How about this one? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechnology Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 1:45 PM, IronMike said: You misspelled Two Weeks. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechnology Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 just a joke. right guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceFuel85 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Czechnology said: just a joke. right guys? Right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf1606688794 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, Czechnology said: just a joke. right guys? We'll know in two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinlein Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 hace 4 horas, Czechnology dijo: just a joke. right guys? Right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevampedGrunt Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 The 19th has come and gone. The prophecy was false.... We're all going to die! 1 Current Modules: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-15E, F-4E, AV-8B, Mirage 2KC, Mirage F-1, Mig-21, AJS-37, A-10C II, F-5E, AH-64D, UH-1H, Ka-50 BS2/BS3, Mi-8MTV2, Mi-24P, SA342, Spitfire, P-47D, BF-109K, Mosquito Tech Pack: WWII Assets Terrain: Syria, Sinai, NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoodI Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 This one? Wishlist:f4e,f4j,f4g,f4e aup,f8,f6f,f4u,f15e,ah1g/w,fr fireball,a7d,g91,jaguar,f1,ch53e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinlein Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Don't know about you, but I really like the IRIAF skin Edited January 20, 2023 by Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOYFUL_CLOVR Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Can't forget the Iron Eagle Mig-29. Edited January 20, 2023 by JOYFUL_CLOVR Specs: i7-11700k, RTX 3070 Ti, 64GB RAM, 1TB M.2 SSD Squadron: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasnkova74 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 11 hours ago, JOYFUL_CLOVR said: Can't forget the Iron Eagle Mig-29. Whoever made that screenwriting decision should be whipped in the public square. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOYFUL_CLOVR Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Kalasnkova74 said: Whoever made that screenwriting decision should be whipped in the public square. The same person who came up with the "Mig-28" Specs: i7-11700k, RTX 3070 Ti, 64GB RAM, 1TB M.2 SSD Squadron: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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