Alt+Enter does not enter full screen; stuck in windowed

[scommander2]

On 4/4/2023 at 5:16 PM, Dr Zaius said:

Thanks to the dedicated efforts of folks on this forum I've got FS back

It sounds that we have the Alt-Enter feature back for the fullscreen in MT. am I right?

[Dr Zaius]

On 4/6/2023 at 1:37 PM, scommander2 said:

It sounds that we have the Alt-Enter feature back for the fullscreen in MT. am I right?

Sadly no, not yet, well not officially - you can get it working by following the instructions on this post but its still a bit shonky, sometimes the game will start in fs, sometimes not - I find clicking on the DCS icon when opening in the taskbar helps the game start properly and note that for whatever reason once the game is in fs you can’t alt & tab back into desktop without losing the game window completely, you can hear the game music still but can’t tab back into it, not even a ctrl alt and delete will work

Edited April 11, 2023 by Dr Zaius

[Boosterdog]

On 4/4/2023 at 10:16 PM, Dr Zaius said:

Thanks to the dedicated efforts of folks on this forum I've got FS back, while trying to get it working and testing things out I noticed that the FPS differences are rather negligible however the experience really is a lot smoother in FS, I wonder then if this performance issue we're getting is more to do with TrackIR as the 'smoothness' of the sim only really makes itself obvious (to me anyway) when panning around the cockpit, which for whatever reason seems to work better in FS despite the FPS being very similar - I know there's been lots of testing by others and the general consenses is that the closer to TrackIR's 120hz refresh rate the better, for that reason I was restricting my frames to 60hz, with MT I'm able to up that to 120hz which works well but once the FPS drop away from the magic number the smoothness also suffers - are there any non-trackir users out there who prefer FS due to better performance?     

When i was looking as the differences, i switched off TIR altogether - the same stutter is apparent over forests (for instance) even flying slowly when looking to the side. This isnt just a TIR issue. The general concensus is that 120 or 60 is fine for TIR BTW. I can have a totally smooth experience with TIR at 60 locked vsync with full screen in the non MT version. 

The issue remains - there is no reliable way to Alt-Enter for MT and currently nothing from ED.

[Roostyla]

Im guessing we still waiting for ED to re-enable this or give us a new autoexec command? Ive gone back to ST now so I can use true fullscreen again, its so much smoother and better with GSYNC / TIR.

[Boosterdog]

1 hour ago, Roostyla said:

Im guessing we still waiting for ED to re-enable this or give us a new autoexec command? Ive gone back to ST now so I can use true fullscreen again, its so much smoother and better with GSYNC / TIR.

wouldnt hold your breath....very much getting a "Llalala not listening" vibe to this one...

[Loukuins]

On 4/21/2023 at 8:18 PM, Boosterdog said:

wouldnt hold your breath....very much getting a "Llalala not listening" vibe to this one...

Yeah don't be surprised, I reported 2 big issues with the game months ago and still nothing... I will keep reporting them until it's fixed.

[Noctrach]

Dear @BIGNEWY

I was wondering if there was an easy way for us to fix this or if this is something that will be solved when full migration to the MT build goes live?

The sim is unfortunately quite a stutterfest for me with only borderless as an option. Is there a line we can add to the script to also apply the original fix for the MT branch?

[scommander2]

2 hours ago, Noctrach said:

The sim is unfortunately quite a stutterfest for me with only borderless as an option.

I am playing my DCS with the windows widget around on the big monitor, is it odd? 

Edited May 13, 2023 by scommander2

[hughlb]

What is the latest on this situation? Can we enter true full-screen in the multithreaded beta?

[audiodistortion]

Just an fyi, I've managed to get into fullscreen mode everytime by clicking on the load screen box before it expands into the game.

The game has been much more stable since I started doing this. But Alt-TABing locks up the game for me now - so I don't ALT-TAB.

 

[Roostyla]

Ill give that a go this evening audiodistortion. Question for you, what's your method for verifying its true fullscreen and not borderless?

[scommander2]

On 6/25/2023 at 6:54 AM, audiodistortion said:

to get into fullscreen mode everytime by clicking on the load screen box before it expands into the game

it does not work for me, and I am wondering that "system->resolution" must be set the same screen size or not.  

[audiodistortion]

5 hours ago, Roostyla said:

Ill give that a go this evening audiodistortion. Question for you, what's your method for verifying its true fullscreen and not borderless?

I just change volume, if the volume display is hidden - it's fullscreen.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, scommander2 said:

it does not work for me, and I am wondering that "system->resolution" must be set the same screen size or not.  

I couldn't say for sure, but my resolution is set the same. I assume clicking on the loading box just gives it focus.

All I know is... it is working that way for me

[scommander2]

2 hours ago, audiodistortion said:

but my resolution is set the same. I assume clicking on the loading box just gives it focus.

@audiodistortionThanks for the confirmation.

I agree that the DCS display resolution must be same with the screen size, and clicking the loading box to ensure the DCS main dialog shows on the desired monitor (in my cause, I have two monitors and I want the DCS main page shows on the big/extended monitor instead of my small main monitor).

 

 

[Boosterdog]

@audiodistortion  Thank you!!

[Roostyla]

8 hours ago, audiodistortion said:

I just change volume, if the volume display is hidden - it's fullscreen.

 

 

 

I couldn't say for sure, but my resolution is set the same. I assume clicking on the loading box just gives it focus.

All I know is... it is working that way for me

I tried this method but i dont think its working , clicked the small load screen where it displays the version of the game and has DCS logos. In game I still see volume controls If i increase it. Can I ask do you have 'fullscreen' ticked in the options or not?

[scommander2]

@Boosterdogdoes it work for me I am just wondering?  Thanks.

[Boosterdog]

17 hours ago, Roostyla said:

I tried this method but i dont think it’s working , clicked the small load screen where it displays the version of the game and has DCS logos. In game I still see volume controls If i increase it. Can I ask do you have 'fullscreen' ticked in the options or not?

Full screen is ticked for me. Have you got the dx11 backend lines added to your autoexec.cig? 
 

15 hours ago, scommander2 said:

@Boosterdogdoes it work for me I am just wondering?  Thanks.

Not sure what you mean buddy. 
 

 

[scommander2]

Hi @Boosterdog, sorry... I mean that does @audiodistortion suggestion work for your DCS?  It does not work for me unfortunately, and I still need ALT-ENTER

Thanks!

Edited June 28, 2023 by scommander2

[Roostyla]

@Boosterdog Hi , Nothing in my autoexec should i put the command back in?

[Boosterdog]

1 hour ago, scommander2 said:

Hi @Boosterdog, sorry... I mean that does @audiodistortion suggestion work for your DCS?  It does not work for me unfortunately, and I still need ALT-ENTER

Thanks!

 

Hi. Yes it seems to and seems reliable. I only have the one screen with a matching resolution however. 
 

I would still urge @BIGNEWY to bring this to the attention of the devs if he has not already done so. 
 

The reasoning for removing the ability to run fse has never been explained and a good number have been left to scrabble for solutions  these past months. What solutions do work only work for specific set ups in 2D. 
 

I’ve not touched DCS since MT for this reason. That it works again for now is something but the silence from ED to this thread does not give me the confidence to invest anything further into the title at this time. 

2 minutes ago, Roostyla said:

@Boosterdog Hi , Nothing in my autoexec should i put the command back in?

That’s what worked for me.  

[Roostyla]

Ok ill give that a go later thanks for the tips, as for the topic in general your absolutely right Boosterdog, its been pretty much industry standard in gaming for years now to allow the user to select windowed/fullscreen borderless/fullscreen exclusive as that allows people the freedom for what works for them. However we had a jerry rig fix and even that got taken away.  Surely cant be too complex a thing to create? Quick wins as they say in business !

[audiodistortion]

12 hours ago, Roostyla said:

@Boosterdog Hi , Nothing in my autoexec should i put the command back in?

I have the entry in my autoexec, I haven't tried it without it.

dx11backend =
{
    flipMode = false,
}

 

 

[Roostyla]

** ok i think I figured it out NVCP VSYNC off , Autoxec placed in config , in game fullscreen on and Vsync on (this is how we use to do it) .    When game launches click the load screen. trying to alt tab does indeed lock the game and requires windows end task. Will test more on how it performs!

 

Whats your Nvidia control panel set to do, VSYNC off , on or let application decide? I recall when were using this fix before we had to set it to one of those to prevent a black screen.

Edited June 29, 2023 by Roostyla

[audiodistortion]

6 hours ago, Roostyla said:

** ok i think I figured it out NVCP VSYNC off , Autoxec placed in config , in game fullscreen on and Vsync on (this is how we use to do it) .    When game launches click the load screen. trying to alt tab does indeed lock the game and requires windows end task. Will test more on how it performs!

 

Whats your Nvidia control panel set to do, VSYNC off , on or let application decide? I recall when were using this fix before we had to set it to one of those to prevent a black screen.

 

I force VSync off.