westr Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just wondered if people find that the dive speed correct on the jug. I find it doesn’t catch up with a 109 in a dive, from what I’ve read it was unmatched in the dive. Anybody have any thoughts? RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Dive from what alt at least, P-47 dive performance wasn't same at all alt. Dive from high alt often end up with compressibility problem making elevator ineffective so total lost of control of the plane. Definitely wasn't unmatched diver from what i have read , depends on P-47 versions, N or M get a lot of improvement in that regard but D beside compressibility flaps not so much. Take note that K-4 encounter was extremally rare, by the time K-4 entered full service Luftwaffe was in bad shape. Mos of the encounter reports were with early versions of 109 or fw 190. 4 System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 27, 2022 ED Team Share Posted July 27, 2022 I would need to see some evidence with supporting tracks that it is underperforming. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charley Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I have wondered the same question. I mostly fly only in single player, maybe that matters, but the P 47 shows no diving advantage in catching up to other planes, or escaping in a dive . Robert S. Johnson though , seemed to think the diving ability of the P 47 was one of its greatest advantages, he mentions it in his book "Thunderbolt" & also in this from an old interview post on the ACES High forum): CCJ: What about facing the Fw 190 and Messerschmitts? RSJ: The Focke Wulf reminded me of the Corsair. It was much smaller of course, but they both had similar maneuverability. It wasn't quite as fast, but turned well. It was unusual to find Focke Wulfs above us. Generally, we held the advantage in height. The Me 109 was another story. They could often be seen up above 35,000 feet. CCJ: What was the biggest mistake a German pilot could make? RSJ: Trying to escape in a dive or split-S. CCJ: Why? RSJ: Because they were not going to out-run the Thunderbolt in a dive. CCJ: You could catch them without a problem. RSJ: I could catch them in nothing flat. CCJ: Really? RSJ: Absolutely. One thing about the 190, if the pilot continued his dive below 7 or 8 thousand feet, he could not pull out before he hit the ground. I guess they had compressibility problems or the elevators got too stiff. Whatever the problem was, I watched several of them pancake in before they could level off. CCJ: What about the Thunderbolt? RSJ: It did not have that problem down that low. Up high, above 25,000 feet, yes, I could get into compressibility and the elevators locked up like they were in concrete. But once you got down to thicker air, you regained control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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