are amraams good ?

[swaps]

while I do get hits with them I do find them very hit and miss. have been using them in slave mode just had an su27 in the circle and fired 3 amraam. all went vertical and nowhere near the target ? Also when jumping into a learning mission like the fighter sweep can you make the f-16 keep the settings you want on ? radar on, helmet display on full and such ? I do find it a bit of a pain to reset every time you reboot the mission.

 

Thanks Alan

[Dragon1-1]

AMRAAMs loft. They use a ballistic trajectory to extend their range if you fire them from far enough away. This is normal, and they turn back to target after climbing. Just keep it locked, and it should go down if it doesn't either run away or break lock.

And yes, they are very good. You usually need only one, just make sure you're in optimal firing range.

[swaps]

22 minutes ago, Dragon1-1 said:

AMRAAMs loft. They use a ballistic trajectory to extend their range if you fire them from far enough away. This is normal, and they turn back to target after climbing. Just keep it locked, and it should go down if it doesn't either run away or break lock.

And yes, they are very good. You usually need only one, just make sure you're in optimal firing range.

On this last mission all 3 just went vertical and never came down the plane just dived and they all carried on into the distance. I have had that happen to the odd one but never 3 at the same target. fired 2 while he was high and another as he dived all within 4 miles

. May have just been bad luck  but with me 1 in 3 or 4 just go where they please.

 

Thanks Alan

Edited March 23, 2022 by swaps

[draconus]

This is not a laser weapon. Physics and pilot skills apply here on both sides so you can't expect every missile to hit a defending fighter. You just press the fight on if you still can or leave... very fast, to not die. BVR and WVR are your favourite topics to learn now.

[Dragon1-1]

If he trashed the missile by diving for the deck, you fired from too far out. You need to learn how to read the range scale, and when your shot has a good probability of hitting. Firing as soon as you're in range (Rmax) will almost never hit. 

[Exorcet]

The AIM-120 is one of the best missiles available. You still have to guide it to active for best results though, and you need to respect its limits. The missile shouldn't go flying off into space unless you're not maintaining a lock on or firing at too great a distance. 20-30 miles is a good firing range at altitude.

 

Some screenshots showing when you're firing might help to see what's wrong. You can also watch missiles in game with the F6 key.

As far as saving settings, when we get the DTC you'll be able to set up the plane before flying. Until then, fly the mission once and set up your menus, then save a track and fly from that track.

[swaps]

I am still not up to speed with the attack modes so it possible its something I am doing or not doing. mainly they work fine. I intend to buy the f-16c so I will get to grips with the finer points as I go. I have mainly been jumping and and fighting and doing take offs and landings.

 

Thanks Alan

[Ephedrin]

Am 23.3.2022 um 21:27 schrieb swaps:

just had an su27 in the circle and fired 3 amraam.

If you only point the plane towards an enemy and fire the 120 it goes pitbull right away (uses its own radar).  The Su will get a missile warning immediately and defend, at 20 or 30 miles the missile will be useless. You need a radar lock, TWS on long distance, then keep the lock while breaking to the side. RWS if a warning doesn‘t matter, depending on the situation. Read the manual about it, watch tutorials. The use as a spamraam won‘t make you happy.

Edited April 4, 2022 by Ephedrin

[swaps]

On 4/4/2022 at 5:04 AM, Ephedrin said:

If you only point the plane towards an enemy and fire the 120 it goes pitbull right away (uses its own radar).  The Su will get a missile warning immediately and defend, at 20 or 30 miles the missile will be useless. You need a radar lock, TWS on long distance, then keep the lock while breaking to the side. RWS if a warning doesn‘t matter, depending on the situation. Read the manual about it, watch tutorials. The use as a spamraam won‘t make you happy.

 

My shots are close range, normally 4 to 6 miles. and many times the plane I am shooting at if the only thing in the centre of the aiming circle but the  amraam launches and shoots away from the target. I know the fox 2 missiles do this but they almost always come back in and head for the plane but many times the amraam fails to do this.

 

[fagulha]

You can change between LOFT or no LOFT.

Were the missiles fired inside firing paramaters (shown in A-A mode in HUD)? Every missile has minimum range depending the aspect and speed of the target at those short ranges should be fired in Boresight mode or you should change to short range missiles (AIM-9)

[swaps]

On 4/10/2022 at 2:41 PM, fagulha said:

You can change between LOFT or no LOFT.

Were the missiles fired inside firing paramaters (shown in A-A mode in HUD)? Every missile has minimum range depending the aspect and speed of the target at those short ranges should be fired in Boresight mode or you should change to short range missiles (AIM-9)

I have to admit I almost always have missiles in slave mode in AA mode. I use boresight when in Dog fight mode. At the short ranges in AA mode I do expect the missile to go pit bull straight away so have thought that if well in the target circle it would just head straight towards the plane.

 

Thanks Alan

[Hobel]

An important question would be, do you play PvP or PvE?

 

On 4/10/2022 at 3:41 PM, fagulha said:

You can change between LOFT or no LOFT.

 

with the F18 and F16? and if so how does that work with the 120?

Edited April 22, 2022 by Hobel

[swaps]

26 minutes ago, Hobel said:

An important question would be, do you play PvP or PvE?

 

 

with the F18 and F16? and if so how does that work with the 120?

 

Up to now its all been  PvE, mainly the standard training modules and some I have made myself to practice. I think I am now good enough to play others and will be trying out some of the servers once I have seen a few videos on how to use them.

 

Thanks Alan

[Hobel]

I mean in the long run, do you want to play PvP in the future?

 

because then they should get used to the fact that missiles fired above 10nm usually don't lead to a kill, missiles above that are more of an affliction.

 The SD10 has twice the effective range at altitude compared to the 120.

[swaps]

2 hours ago, Hobel said:

I mean in the long run, do you want to play PvP in the future?

 

because then they should get used to the fact that missiles fired above 10nm usually don't lead to a kill, missiles above that are more of an affliction.

 The SD10 has twice the effective range at altitude compared to the 120.

Hi,

      Yes, I want to play others, it seems a lot more fun than on your own although with so much to learn on the f-16 it would be pointless jumping in without doing the practice first.

 

Alan

[ruxtmp]

All you need to defend against a +10nm amraam shot is Split S. Works 100% of the time.