Varjo Aero: Общее руководство для новых владельцев

[Number481]

3 hours ago, Slick Twitchy said:

Not sure if you're referring to my post, however if you are, that is irrelevant to my problem.

Its not though.. what you are experiencing is the g-force effects interaction with the lens effect...

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[yann06]

Bonjour à tous,

J'ai un gros problème depuis la dernière mise à jour DCS.

J'utilise le casque VARJO AERO et j'applique les conditions ci-dessous :

 

"NOUVEAU - Commentaire : DCS multithread via Varjo OpenXR

1. DCS MT ne produit OpenXR qu'à l'heure actuelle (sur les casques Varjo, il utilise Varjo OpenXR en contournant Steam), il ne nécessite donc pas de raccourci ou de lignes de commande pour s'exécuter, mais vous devez vous assurer d'exécuter l'application à partir du bon dossier qui est \ bin -mt\ (l'ancienne application DCS réside toujours dans le dossier \bin\ qui est monothread).  Cela deviendra probablement le mode préféré de la plupart des utilisateurs, car il offre les meilleures performances et les meilleurs visuels par rapport aux autres modes lorsqu'il est associé à Dynamic Foveation, même au début de la sortie.

2. Cette version prend en charge la fovéation dynamique, mais nécessite le mod Varjo Foveated de mbuchia pour fonctionner.  (  Accueil · mbucchia/Varjo-Foveated Wiki · GitHub  ).  Les fichiers sont installés dans le dossier %ProgramFiles%\OpenXR-Varjo-Foveated\, au cas où vous auriez besoin de les supprimer autorisés.  Vous pouvez toujours forcer le mode d'affichage stéréo via le wrapper d'extensions d'instance de mbucchia (  GitHub - mbucchia/OpenXR-InstanceExtensionsWrapper : un wrapper d'exécution OpenXR pour masquer les extensions d'instance sélectionnées.  ). Utilisez uniquement l'un ou l'autre de ces mods car ils ne sont pas compatibles les uns avec les autres, le dernier désactive la vue quadruple tandis que le premier favorise la vue quadruple avec suivi oculaire.

3. Si le mod Varjo Foveated est utilisé, la boîte à outils OpenXR doit être désactivée (via l'application compagnon) ou désinstallée.  Alternativement, vous pouvez également désactiver sélectivement DCS à partir de la liste des jeux pris en charge dans l'application compagnon OXRTK.

4. Dans l'application Varjo Base, vous devez activer Varjo OpenXR.  (L'environnement d'exécution Steam OpenXR fonctionnera également mais ne prend pas en charge le DFR, d'où des performances médiocres).  Varjo OpenVR doit également être activé pour une compatibilité générale avec les applications SteamVR qui utilisent généralement l'API OpenVR.

5. Exécutez DCS.exe directement à partir de \bin-mt\ ou créez un nouveau raccourci pour celui-ci.

6. Vous remarquerez également le processus d'arrière-plan Varjo Gaze dans le gestionnaire de tâches, qui indique que DFR est actif."

 

Tout fonctionne très bien et très fluide sur la version DCS 2.8.6.41363 Bêta ouverte  -  22.06.2023  mais  depuis la mise à jour  DCS 2.8.7.42718 Bêta ouverte  -  28.07.2023   J'ai d'énormes pertes de FPS et des gros lags. J'ai deux disques durs sur lesquels DCS OPENBETA sont installés avec les mêmes paramètres, le même pilote Nvidia, la même version VarjoBase sauf la version DCS.

Ancienne version je suis stable avec 75 à 90 fps alors qu'avec la dernière version je chute à 18 - 25fps

J'ai plusieurs fois essayé de tout désinstaller puis de réinstaller mais impossible de comprendre mon problème.

Du coup, je ne peux plus jouer en multi-joueurs

pouvez-vous à m'aider s'il vous plait!!!!!!

Edited August 9, 2023 by yann06

[CacooLR07]

Hello,
I find myself in exactly the same situation as Yann06.
everything worked fine before the last update.
Now I have a huge drop in FPS.
I haven't tried anything yet because I'm discovering the problem.

[yann06]

1 hour ago, CacooLR07 said:

Bonjour,
je me retrouve exactement dans le même cas que Yann06.
tout fonctionnait bien avant la dernière mise à jour.
Maintenant, j'ai une énorme baisse de FPS.
Je n'ai encore rien essayé car je découvre le problème.

Je serais très intéressé si vous trouvez la solution.

J'ai peur que ça vienne d'Open XR

[CacooLR07]

hello.
for info an uninstallation then reinstallation of openxr varjo foveated and i got back the performances of before the update of DCS.

[dburne]

19 hours ago, yann06 said:

Je serais très intéressé si vous trouvez la solution.

J'ai peur que ça vienne d'Open XR

This is an english forum fyi.

[Slick Twitchy]

On 8/8/2023 at 8:00 PM, mjfrisby said:

Its not though.. what you are experiencing is the g-force effects interaction with the lens effect...

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Damn you, I think you're right. Sorry for the previous comment. I thought I had followed ALL directions. Guess not. 

 

[Number481]

7 hours ago, Slick Twitchy said:

Damn you, I think you're right. Sorry for the previous comment. I thought I had followed ALL directions. Guess not. 

 

 No worries dude. My original message was smart-a**ish in the first place.  There’s so many many moving parts it’s hard to keep track of.  I also admit that with QVFR being a more generic implementation than Varjo-Foveated, there is far more documentation to look through.  

[dburne]

1 minute ago, mjfrisby said:

 No worries dude. My original message was smart-a**ish in the first place.  There’s so many many moving parts it’s hard to keep track of.  I also admit that with QVFR being a more generic implementation than Varjo-Foveated, there is far more documentation to look through.  

 

Do you guys that moved to QVFR from Varjo Foveated find it much better, other than of course being able to use the Toolkit?

[Number481]

11 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Do you guys that moved to QVFR from Varjo Foveated find it much better, other than of course being able to use the Toolkit?

IMHO, the focus/peripheral blending is better.  And, you have more control over the size and resolutions of each zone.

But, unless you want/need to run additional OpenXR layers that conflict with native quad-view (like Toolkit or OBSMirror), or if you want to play other quad-view enabled titles, there is little other reason to migrate over today. 

[dburne]

4 minutes ago, mjfrisby said:

IMHO, the focus/peripheral blending is better.  And, you have more control over the size and resolutions of each zone.

But, unless you want/need to run additional OpenXR layers that conflict with native quad-view (like Toolkit or OBSMirror), or if you want to play other quad-view enabled titles, there is little other reason to migrate over today. 

 

Ok thanks, in my case sometimes it is best to leave things be when they are working good. I will stay with Varjo Foveated a little while longer.

[finkelt]

Hi all,

Fairly new to DCS AND VR.  Have a 4090 system with an i9 and 64MB.

 The issue I'm having is weird.  I can get MT to open on my Varjo Aero, l but for some reason, it open in the hangar splash screen with me on the wings of the flanker or Mig 29 (whichever it is) and with the menus way down by my feet in the headset.   I think someone mentioned having a similar problem above, but didn't see if there was any resolution for it.

Moreover when I fly this way it looks like I'm sitting on top of the canopy looking down into my plane.  I've tried Num5 to center the view as well as the GUI commands to center view but nothing has worked.  I think someone mentioned having a similar problem above, but didn't see if there was any resolution for it.

Any ideas what might be causing this and how to fix?    I'm not sure if it's a bug in the Aero headset or in DCS.  Any help/or advice would be greatly appreciated. 

[dburne]

Have you tried just re-cententering the VR view in DCS? You will want to bind vr-recenter to a button on your HOTAS. Mine always starts offset similar to that and I just hit that button first thing when I get into DCS. 

Edited August 11, 2023 by dburne

[finkelt]

I thought I did, but maybe I didn't....which specific command does it?   Where do I find "VR-Recenter"  not seeing it in controls....

[Slick Twitchy]

50 minutes ago, finkelt said:

I thought I did, but maybe I didn't....which specific command does it?   Where do I find "VR-Recenter"  not seeing it in controls....

In the controls "UI Controls" or something. I bind it to an easily accessed button on my stick.

[Rodeo]

1 hour ago, finkelt said:

I thought I did, but maybe I didn't....which specific command does it?   Where do I find "VR-Recenter"  not seeing it in controls....

I agree 100% with dburne.. bind headset center to your HOTAS. I have the same problem every time it might have something to do with your headset alignment or who knows I just re-center as soon as the hanger screen appears and it is just second nature now. Easier solution than running down the exact problem. 
 

Also the benefit of binding the re-center to your HOTAS is you will discover the more you fly you might have to re-center at times. I know when I am doing slow orbits in the A10 and looking down to the left or right for extended amount of time I sometimes need to re-center. 
 

Hope this binding the re-center is the easy fix 

[finkelt]

Great. Thanks to all, but what is the actual command to bind and where do I find it?

[finkelt]

Also, does this solve the double cursor problem?

[Slick Twitchy]

2 hours ago, finkelt said:

Also, does this solve the double cursor problem?

You need the mbuccia wrapper (a little extra program)-look at the first post to download and install that.

 

Look in the MAIN MENU-CONTROLS-UI CONTROLS (from drop down menu-it has all the airplanes, and then at the bottom there is one that says UI Controls (or something like that).

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Slick Twitchy

[dburne]

8 hours ago, finkelt said:

Great. Thanks to all, but what is the actual command to bind and where do I find it?

 

In the UI layer of controller assignment menu. Click on the down arrow by the aircraft listing and scroll all way up I believe it is now to find the UI Layer. You can bind VR Receneter and two levels of VR Zoom in there. Note it is a global setting and not aircraft specific.

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by dburne

[finkelt]

Yep. Found it.  That solved it beautifully.  Cursor issue issue resolved as well. Thanks to all.  Flew MT w DFR and it was AMAZING.  Can't wait to see where they go from here.  Thanks again to everyone for their help.

[dburne]

4 hours ago, finkelt said:

Yep. Found it.  That solved it beautifully.  Cursor issue issue resolved as well. Thanks to all.  Flew MT w DFR and it was AMAZING.  Can't wait to see where they go from here.  Thanks again to everyone for their help.

[Rodeo]

8 hours ago, finkelt said:

Yep. Found it.  That solved it beautifully.  Cursor issue issue resolved as well. Thanks to all.  Flew MT w DFR and it was AMAZING.  Can't wait to see where they go from here.  Thanks again to everyone for their help.

… welcome to the COOL KIDS CLUB 

[Burt]

On 8/11/2023 at 6:14 PM, dburne said:

 

Ok thanks, in my case sometimes it is best to leave things be when they are working good. I will stay with Varjo Foveated a little while longer.

Same here, the framerates are better and it seems to have a more crisper image especially using the Redshift fix. Not much I was using in OXRTK w/ QVFR when I was running it and the eye tracking was unstable. But yeah I like VF and love seeing the 90FPS in most situations. I haven't tried the new updated QVFR yet but it's mostly fixes that didn't concern what I was using it for.  

[fastf1nger]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Burt:

Same here, the framerates are better and it seems to have a more crisper image especially using the Redshift fix. Not much I was using in OXRTK w/ QVFR when I was running it and the eye tracking was unstable. But yeah I like VF and love seeing the 90FPS in most situations. I haven't tried the new updated QVFR yet but it's mostly fixes that didn't concern what I was using it for.  

Hey @Burt.....i think i missed something here regarding the Redshift fix  Could you tell me more please?
Thanks mate!