Share your Tobii Eyetracker 5 DCS settings

[Rhinozherous]

Hello! 

I just got Tobii and I have to say I struggle a bit to set it up to my liking. So I thought it could help to see how others have set it up. If you use Tobii, please share your settings with me. 

Thank you! 

[LuseKofte]

I like to know how it work with DCS.

I understand you are not satisfied 

But can you talk a bit how it work and setup

[StarVenger]

I use Tobii Eye tracker 5 for DCS World and here are my settings, you're mileage may vary. Do not enable "Eye Tracking" as head tracking is already enough. If you ever opt to use "Eye Tracking", try to play with the "Responsiveness". I find 25% or below is acceptable given the "Sensitivity Gradient settings. Hope you find them helpful. Also, make sure to have a dedicated button to, at least, the "Reset head tracking key".

The only issue is Tobii Eye Tracker 5 already dropped support to other flight sims so I discontinued using it for the time being and went back to TrackIR 5.

[spoon_21]

Il 20/6/2022 at 07:52, StarVenger ha scritto:

I use Tobii Eye tracker 5 for DCS World and here are my settings, you're mileage may vary. Do not enable "Eye Tracking" as head tracking is already enough. If you ever opt to use "Eye Tracking", try to play with the "Responsiveness". I find 25% or below is acceptable given the "Sensitivity Gradient settings. Hope you find them helpful. Also, make sure to have a dedicated button to, at least, the "Reset head tracking key".

The only issue is Tobii Eye Tracker 5 already dropped support to other flight sims so I discontinued using it for the time being and went back to TrackIR 5.

Hi,

Thanks for the settings. I will give a try because I also find very difficult to use it in DCS but probably because I still have the eyetracking ON. 

What do you mean with no support for Tobii ? Do you mean Eagle Dynamics side ? 

[StarVenger]

Hey Spoon21, nope, what I meant was Tobii's support to the other popular but limited to WW1 and WW2 "flight sim"   Please feedback to me your experience with the settings. Please note that I am using these settings on a 34" monitor.

Edited August 2, 2022 by StarVenger

[YSIAD_RIP]

TOBII	DCS-FAST-Head Movement
Eye tracking settings
Enable eye tracking	On
Responsiveness	30%
Sensitivity gradient
Exponent	1.91
Inflection point	0.41
Start point	0.25
End point	0.70
Limits
Yaw	25  <>  -25
Pitch	20  <>  -22
Pitch mirror	OFF
Head tracking settings
Enable head tracking	ON
Head auto center	OFF
Head rotation
Enable head roll	ON
Yaw sensitivity	2.53
Pitch sensitivitry	1.13
Roll sensitivity	0.65
Sensitivity gradient
Exponent	1.79
Inflection point	0.01
Start point	0.00
End point	0.85
View angle limits
Yaw	180  <>  -180
Pitch	90  <>  -40
Pitch mirror	OFF
Head position
Enable head position	ON
X sensitivity	0.82
Y sensitivity	1.10
Z sensitivity	2.00
Control features
Enable/Disable key	CAPS Lock (Capital) RS Mapper: Long Press Throttle Zoom Dial Button #3)
	Toggle
Center view on disable	On
Center view key	X56 HOTAS Throttle Zoom Dial Button #3

[Heli Shed]

turn eye tracking off and use head only - you'll be glad you did OP.

[imacken]

On 8/2/2022 at 9:02 AM, StarVenger said:

Hey Spoon21, nope, what I meant was Tobii's support to the other popular but limited to WW1 and WW2 "flight sim"   Please feedback to me your experience with the settings. Please note that I am using these settings on a 34" monitor.

 

Sorry, I know this is a few months ago, but I really have no idea what you mean by 'dropping support'. Seems like the opposite to me.  Most flight sims are supported with many having native support. In fact, out of the almost 200 games with Tobii functioning, almost all have native support.

The only thing I can think you are talking about is the dropping of a certain  WW2 sim with 3 characters. Support for that was dropped because it was using vjoy and it that is no longer supported. I only wish that DCS would incorporate native support so we could stop using GameHub.  In fact, I might drop a thread in the Wishlist forum.

[StarVenger]

On 2/23/2023 at 7:10 PM, imacken said:

Sorry, I know this is a few months ago, but I really have no idea what you mean by 'dropping support'. Seems like the opposite to me.  Most flight sims are supported with many having native support. In fact, out of the almost 200 games with Tobii functioning, almost all have native support.

The only thing I can think you are talking about is the dropping of a certain  WW2 sim with 3 characters. Support for that was dropped because it was using vjoy and it that is no longer supported. I only wish that DCS would incorporate native support so we could stop using GameHub.  In fact, I might drop a thread in the Wishlist forum.

That's the only one I was talking about.  Just sad that I could not use this tracker to that sim.

[kitcloudkicker]

@StarVenger OMG thank you. I've been STRUGGLING. These are perfect. Thanks for sharing.

[YSIAD_RIP]

There is always more than one way to accomplish goals in the Windows environment.

• For those that like to tweak and try new things, you can also use OpenTrack with Tobii and "ALL" Flight Sims including that certain WW2 simulator with 3 characters.
• The tutorial is linked below:

Use Tobii Eye Tracker 5 with OpenTrack: 

Click this Link >> https://gist.github.com/amadeus/09b32e4d45f815f6d46686d367c4b6ee

From the Author amadeus:

Hopefully, you've found this document helpful as a way to setup and configure a Tobii Eye Tracker 5 with OpenTrack. Another nice benefit of this setup is that it will work with pretty much any flight sim out of the box given OpenTrack's great compatibility.

 

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[imacken]

Yes, and it works pretty well with Opentrack. BUT, you can't use eye tracking - no big deal for some - and, most importantly, you can't use the built-in native support in MS's sim for Tobii with Opentrack installed as it prioritises that as it thinks it's TrackIR.

So, it's swings and roundabouts.

Edited March 5, 2023 by imacken

[Hiob]

42 minutes ago, YSIAD_RIP said:

There is always more than one way to accomplish goals in the Windows environment.

• For those that like to tweak and try new things, you can also use OpenTrack with Tobii and "ALL" Flight Sims including that certain WW2 simulator with 3 characters.
• The tutorial is linked below:

Use Tobii Eye Tracker 5 with OpenTrack: 

Click this Link >> https://gist.github.com/amadeus/09b32e4d45f815f6d46686d367c4b6ee

From the Author amadeus:

Hopefully, you've found this document helpful as a way to setup and configure a Tobii Eye Tracker 5 with OpenTrack. Another nice benefit of this setup is that it will work with pretty much any flight sim out of the box given OpenTrack's great compatibility.

 

g

Does that mean, I can drop the tobii software and drivers altogether? I found their software quite intrusive. One of the reasons I dropped it. But I may try again with opentrack.

[imacken]

No, you can’t drop Tobii Experience. You can only drop GameHub. 
As I said above, there are drawbacks with using the Opentrack approach, and I would say it is more intrusive than GH imo. 

[YSIAD_RIP]

Hi @Hiob,

@imacken is 100% accurate in his comments.   OpenTrack only replaces GameHub. OpenTrack is interesting because there are other filters and interesting settings you can change and tweak. 

OpenTrack is free so no harm in trying but you better set aside a few hours of your life.   Cheers.    

[Hiob]

Ok, thanks guys. I'll have a look when I'm bored...

[Wacko_ZA]

Thanks for this thread, its exactly what I was looking for. I just made the move from track IR, in MSFS my tobii is butter smooth, in DCS just breathing makes it look like i am having a seizure. 

[jstnj]

Disabling eye tracking in Tobii Game Hub settings for for some reason doesn't work correctly (your eyes still slightly influence camera direction and its very annoying).

Hot tip for anyone wanting to turn OFF eye tracking but keep head tracking:

1. Keep eye tracking ON in Game Hub, but:
2. Turn Responsiveness, Yaw Limit, and Pitch Limit all to 0 (all the way down) within the Eye Tracking section.

 

This solved the issue for me.

Edited April 26, 2023 by jstnj

[imacken]

Good tip!

[YSIAD_RIP]

Tobii GameHub has been updated from 2.8.x to 3.x.  Not sure how but the GameHub automatically updated this week from what I can tell

I recently had a chance to try the new GameHub settings for DCS and one that stands out the most for me is the Relative Head Position. 

• With Relative Head Positions ON you can look at your left-right or rear panels and lean in to zoom.
• The result will be close to what TrackIR TrueView does in that your cockpit view will zoom in in the direction you are looking at.
• Experiment with the new settings and see what parameters feel better for you.  

Gamehub 3.x.Highlights

Implemented settings for head and eye tracking for multiple-axis

Implemented Relative Head Position in Game Hub

Improved UI for game settings

New head illustrations and limit controller design

[winghunter]

Is it possible to use Tobii head tracking for the camera AND the eye tracking to move the mouse cursor ?

[dscamp]

On 6/19/2022 at 10:52 PM, StarVenger said:

I use Tobii Eye tracker 5 for DCS World and here are my settings, you're mileage may vary. Do not enable "Eye Tracking" as head tracking is already enough. If you ever opt to use "Eye Tracking", try to play with the "Responsiveness". I find 25% or below is acceptable given the "Sensitivity Gradient settings. Hope you find them helpful. Also, make sure to have a dedicated button to, at least, the "Reset head tracking key".

The only issue is Tobii Eye Tracker 5 already dropped support to other flight sims so I discontinued using it for the time being and went back to TrackIR 5.

 

 

 

 

 

Hello!

 

First of thank you so much for the settings. Would you be able to post your updated settings? The new tobii update has different options and I am a new user. Very much appreciated!

[simo-dj]

Hello everybody,

I just got Tobii (2 days) and i'd like to share my experience.

I created multiple profiles even for the same vehicle (i.e a profile for Apache pilot ramp start and for Flight, and same for F16/F18) and fully disabled eye tracking, using tobii just as a head tracker. In this way i can get wide movements for switching all the switches and somehow "limited" movement when in flight. Just to clarify Apache pilot has Z axis disabled while for CPG is enabled in order to take a better look at mfd's partially obscured by TEDAC.

So far i have discovered warm water...

But.. I have still quite some problems during ramp start. How do you deal with looking in game at far left-far right consoles and still being able to look at what's happening on screen?

With Apache, since both left and right consoles have a quite forward poistion i can barely see the main lighting knob and still rotate it. MY only problem is to properly boresighting the aimpoint. I mean, i can put the cross on the yellow ball but how press the "b/s now" button?

I haven't tried yet with F18 but in the 16 is very difficult enable all the avionics switches on the right and test instruments on the left... How do you do that??

 

Thanks a lot!!!

[LasseLEK]

Hi, Got my Tobii last week and I use Tobiis rekommended settings which I downloaded from their site. Work perfectly also on triple 32” which I use. DCS/Tobii resets however the chosen FoV / Zoom so I had to set it to the value I preferred (90) and press [right shift] + [0 on numpad] to save it. Bind zoom to a button and use it ones before flight and it recover the fov. With lower than 90 the view was to low I height. Now it’s perfect! Flies F-16 and AJS37 Viggen.

Tobii setting file:  https://help.tobii.com/hc/en-us/articles/18507056489233

Edited December 5, 2023 by LasseLEK

[Sorata]

Got track IR and use that but had a tobii for years and never installed it till today, just saw a tobii updated a few hours ago they added a new feature for DCS. https://help.tobii.com/hc/en-us/articles/18337540780049-Camera-Boost-beta-

 

Seems like a good idea, Now if only DCS worked with my tobii. There is no enable button and though the eye tracker and all works in setup and I can even preview the eyetracking it doesnt work in DCS at all even after pointing it to the exe file.

 

EDIT: finally works now. got it after rebooting and playing other tobii enabled games first then it started to work on its own but disabled some keyboard buttons. Alt tab in and out of the game and now it works fine. Liking the boots feature tobii added but if enabled it auto disables eye tracking. I am using the tobii profile LasselLEK posted above and it works just as well as my track IR. will likely attach the track IR to my simpit as I have a mount made that attaches it to the Winwing MFD  I got off etsy and a DCS forum user (ToolShop3D, cant remeber his forum name) and will keep the Tobii on my main PC monitor for use with other games and quick DCS sessions till I determine which will be permanent to DCS.

 

EDIT: Stupid tobii anytime I reboot my PC I have to uninstall and reinstall the tobii experience program or the  tobii wont work. I can verify in device manager though the device is good and has power and current drivers. It just stays lights off and not detected in the app unless I uninstall and reinstall. Tobii apps suck.

Edited January 10 by Sorata