Monitor advice

[nikita_nomad]

Hi guys,

Hoping for some advice from community. I'm looking to get a new monitor in the near future, and can't really decide between configuration. I am debating between getting a 2560x1080 ultrawide or a 2560x1440 wide..1440 utrawide is out of my budget and probably out my specs as well. I currently have rtx 3060 ti oc, and i7 4770 with 32 ram. CPU will be next on the list of upgrades. Either monitor will be g sync compatible as well. What do you guys think? P.S. It will be used primarly for dcs,x-plane and occasional editing/browsing.

[nikita_nomad]

I get your point, thanks for reply

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[nikita_nomad]

Any other suggestions? :)

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[BuzzU]

I just bought this lately and i'm happy with it.

https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-90lm0500-b013b0-27/p/N82E16824236987?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Hatch&AFFID=2879876&AFFNAME=Hatch&ACRID=1&ASUBID=s16573076881624q6ha52417&ASID=&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2879876&ranSiteID=9SHw.8narkE-vEWCCznqTtzhDpMb3Hi4Dw

 

[nikita_nomad]

I just bought this lately and i'm happy with it.
https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-90lm0500-b013b0-27/p/N82E16824236987?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Hatch&AFFID=2879876&AFFNAME=Hatch&ACRID=1&ASUBID=s16573076881624q6ha52417&ASID=&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2879876&ranSiteID=9SHw.8narkE-vEWCCznqTtzhDpMb3Hi4Dw
 

Do you find 27inch enough?

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[BuzzU]

It is for me but I just came from a 21". I sit pretty close and a bigger monitor would have me turning my head too much.

That's me though. You might like something bigger.

Edited July 27, 2022 by BuzzU

[nikita_nomad]

It is for me but I just came from a 21". I sit pretty close and a bigger monitor would have me turning my head too much.
That's me though. You might like something bigger.

OK, thanks for the input

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[LucShep]

On 7/25/2022 at 9:17 AM, nikita_nomad said:

Hi guys,

Hoping for some advice from community. I'm looking to get a new monitor in the near future, and can't really decide between configuration. I am debating between getting a 2560x1080 ultrawide or a 2560x1440 wide..1440 utrawide is out of my budget and probably out my specs as well. I currently have rtx 3060 ti oc, and i7 4770 with 32 ram. CPU will be next on the list of upgrades. Either monitor will be g sync compatible as well. What do you guys think? P.S. It will be used primarly for dcs,x-plane and occasional editing/browsing.

There are threads some pages back in this forum section where this has been discussed more than once. In anycase, my (long!) 2 cents on the matter:

Getting a PC monitor is really a matter of preference, system and budget. 

I went through an odyssey well over a year ago when replacing my old 1080P monitor, when I tried a bunch of PC monitors and TVs to make sure I got what I really wanted.

I tried ultrawides again after nearly a decade, both 21:9 and 32:9 formats and, must say, curved or not, they all feel like it really is an acquired taste - you either love it or hate it.
For me, after those initial moments impressed with "oh you can really see more to the sides when in cockpit!", it just ends up feeling like someone has chopped off the top of the screen. No bueno. The vertical depth is completely lost (IMO) and in reality it does not work as good as 16:9, which, for me, is still the perfect format, especially for flight sims (DCS and others).

A bit as a side note, one could argue that the most amazing experience on a regular screen panel is 4K (3840x2160) resolution on a 43'' or bigger screen size (hard to go back after it, admittedly), but there is one very big problem here...  that 4K resolution pushes the GPU a lot(!) harder, and you always have to sacrifice details to keep lower GPU usage and high framerate, something that I never felt was a problem with 1440P.  This, unfortunately, is the deal breaker for many that ever consider 4K screens. 
While I adore mine (and put up with these annoyances), I can not recommend it for DCS unless you use an RTX3080 or better.

After testing pretty much all sizes, formats and resolutions, curved and non-curved, my own opinion is that the PC monitors with 16:9 format at 32'' size and 1440P resolution (2560x1440, aka "QHD" or "2K") still provide the best balanced choice for most people. It really is the "sweet spot" - it's big without being too big and, at that size, the 2560x1440 resolution is still really good resolution (completely clean and clear) that is now fairly easy to drive with modern graphics cards (so, not too demanding), which is another plus. 


TLDR: this comes from someone who has same GPU as you have (RTX3060Ti) - I'd recommend a good 16:9 monitor that runs natively at 2560x1440, and better if it's a 32'' screen size. Not more, not less. 

These will be, in my opinion, among the top pics:
- SAMSUNG Odyssey G7 Series C32G75T 32'' 1440P (2560x1440, 16:9 format), VA panel, 240Hz, 1ms, G-Sync and FreeSync compatible, Curved (1000R)
- ASUS ROG Swift PG329Q 32'' 1440P (2560x1440, 16:9 format), IPS panel, 175Hz (Supports 144Hz), 1ms, G-Sync compatible, non-curved.
- GIGABYTE M32Q 32" 1440P (2560x1440, 16:9 format) IPS panel, 165Hz, 0.8ms (MPRT), 94% DCI-P3, HDR Ready, FreeSync compatible, non-curved.

 

Edited July 29, 2022 by LucShep

[Hiob]

My 2c: Don’t go ultra wide with DCS in mind. In dogfighting the vertical field of view is important. You‘re operating in three dimensions. 

[nikita_nomad]

There are threads some pages back in this forum section where this has been discussed more than once. In anycase, my (long!) 2 cents on the matter:

Getting a PC monitor is really a matter of preference, system and budget. 

I went through an odyssey well over a year ago when replacing my old 1080P monitor, when I tried a bunch of PC monitors and TVs to make sure I got what I really wanted.

I tried ultrawides again after nearly a decade, both 21:9 and 32:9 formats and, must say, curved or not, they all feel like it really is an acquired taste - you either love it or hate it.
For me, after those initial moments impressed with "oh you can really see more to the sides when in cockpit!", it just ends up feeling like someone has chopped off the top of the screen. No bueno. The vertical depth is completely lost (IMO) and in reality it does not work as good as 16:9, which, for me, is still the perfect format, especially for flight sims (DCS and others).
A bit as a side note, one could argue that the most amazing experience on a regular screen panel is 4K (3840x2160) resolution on a 43'' or bigger screen size (hard to go back after it, admittedly), but there is one very big problem here...  that 4K resolution pushes the GPU a lot(!) harder, and you always have to sacrifice details to keep lower GPU usage and high framerate, something that I never felt was a problem with 1440P.  This, unfortunately, is the deal breaker for many that ever consider 4K screens. 
While I adore mine (and put up with these annoyances), I can not recommend it for DCS unless you use an RTX3080 or better.

After testing pretty much all sizes, formats and resolutions, curved and non-curved, my own opinion is that the PC monitors with 16:9 format at 32'' size and 1440P resolution (2560x1440, aka "QHD" or "2K") still provide the best balanced choice for most people. It really is the "sweet spot" - it's big without being too big and, at that size, the 2560x1440 resolution is still really good resolution (completely clean and clear) that is now fairly easy to drive with modern graphics cards (so, not too demanding), which is another plus. 


TLDR: this comes from someone who has same GPU as you have (RTX3060Ti) - I'd recommend a good 16:9 monitor that runs natively at 2560x1440, and better if it's a 32'' screen size. Not more, not less. 

These will be, in my opinion, among the top pics:
- SAMSUNG Odyssey G7 Series C32G75T 32'' 1440P (2560x1440, 16:9 format), 240Hz, 1ms, G-Sync and FreeSync compatible, Curved (1000R)
- ASUS ROG Swift PG329Q 32'' 1440P (2560x1440, 16:9 format), IPS, 175Hz (Supports 144Hz), 1ms, G-Sync compatible, non-curved.
- GIGABYTE M32Q 32" 1440P (2560x1440, 16:9 format) IPS, 165Hz, 0.8ms (MPRT), 94% DCI-P3, HDR Ready, FreeSync compatible, non-curved.
 

Thanks a lot for such a detailed reply. I was leaning towards a 16:9 1440p myself, not only because of dcs but also for a more versatile monitor that will be a good all rounder. You reassured me even more.

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[david william]

I suggest you LG 27GN950-B is the best gaming monitor. The fastest, most responsive 4k gaming monitor. 4K gaming is a premium endeavor. You need a colossal amount of rendering power to hit decent frame rates at such a high resolution. But if you're rocking a top-shelf graphics card, like an RTX 3080(opens in new tab) or RX 6800 XT(opens in new tab) then this dream can be a reality.The LG UltraGear is the first 4K, Nano IPS, gaming monitor with 1ms response times, that'll properly show off your superpowered GPU. Coming in with Nvidia G-Sync and AMD’s FreeSync adaptive refresh compatibility, this slick slim-bezel design even offers LG’s Sphere Lighting 2.0 RGB visual theatrics.

[BitMaster]

Just one thing I want to add.

I often read the loose usage of Nvidia Gsync ... compatible.

You have to read very closely or maybe read it in the technical docs what it exactly says.  Gsync compatible is not the same as just "Gsync".

Nvidia Gsync needs a chip inside the monitor, hence the higher price, and only works with Display Port, not HDMI. 

So if you buy a TV that has no DP it also doesn't have true Gsync, maybe Gsync compatible if Nvidia also lists that TV in their chart for a given driver.

 

Edited September 13, 2022 by BitMaster

[infomationals]

Large OLED screens can provide an exceptional level of immersion for games and movies. The Philips 42M2N8900 of the Evnia 8000 series is built around this, marketed for its potential gaming prowess. The usual Evnia styling elements are included on the stand, with marble-effect base and metallic silver-coloured neck. HDMI 2.1 is included to allow 3840 x 2160 @120Hz output on devices including the PS5 and Xbox Series X. The bezels are very slim at all sides, with dual-stage design that includes a slim panel border surrounding the image and thin hard plastic outer part. The OSD (On Screen Display) is controlled by a joystick at the rear, towards the right side as viewed from the front.

 

A 41.5″ LG Display WRGB OLED panel is adopted with 3840 x 2160 (‘4K’ UHD) resolution and matte anti-glare screen surface. A 138Hz refresh rate is supported (120Hz + mild factory overclock), alongside Adaptive-Sync. This allows VRR technologies such as Nvidia ‘G-SYNC Compatible’ and AMD FreeSync to be used, with 48 – 138Hz VRR range plus LFC. Other aspects of note include a 15m:1 static contrast ratio, 178°/178° viewing angles and 10-bit colour support. The monitor is ‘flicker-free’ with 135 cd/m² (450 cd/m² peak) luminance and 98.5% DCI-P3 (93.6% Adobe RGB, 131.3% sRGB) colour gamut specified. Low Blue Light (LBL) settings are included to provide a more relaxing viewing experience, whilst an sRGB emulation setting with specified DeltaE <2 also features. The monitor responds to HDR10 content with increased brightness pulses, 10-bit colour and the generous DCI-P3 gamut put to good use.

 

Edited January 26, 2023 by infomationals

[skywalker22]

So having a monitor which has embed Nvidia chip for G-SYNC is better? I know what gsync does, it allows your monitor's refresh rate (Hz) to change dynamically, according to your GPU's frame rate (FPS). But is it actually better to see, better for the eyes? Is it worth paying that extra bucks?

[SharpeXB]

4 hours ago, skywalker22 said:

So having a monitor which has embed Nvidia chip for G-SYNC is better? I know what gsync does, it allows your monitor's refresh rate (Hz) to change dynamically, according to your GPU's frame rate (FPS). But is it actually better to see, better for the eyes? Is it worth paying that extra bucks?

https://www.displayninja.com/g-sync-compatible-vs-native-g-sync/#:~:text=G-SYNC Compatible vs Native G-SYNC – What's The,Compatible relies on Adaptive-Sync.&text=This author has been vetted,to write about this topic.

My experience is only with a “compatible” OLED screen which apparently doesn’t need this variable overdrive feature. It seems to work really great. It’s specs don’t say anything about a specific range for VRR. It works fine.

Edited July 24, 2023 by SharpeXB

[aleader]

OP already indicated that 4K is not an option.  I'd only get 4K or an OLED TV for gaming if I wanted to spend the cash on a 4090 (I won't), as this is the only truly capable 4K GPU out there (i.e., you won't run into games that force you to turn down a bunch of settings).  The Gigabyte M32Q is a great monitor, and right now the LG 32GP750 can be found on sale for very cheap.  If you have a flight seat or any kind of cockpit other than a regular office chair, the 32" screen is ideal as you'll be sitting back from the screen automatically.

Edited August 1, 2023 by aleader