[ATTN ALL DEVS] F-105D, F & G "THUD" THUNDERCHIEF ENGINEERING & PERFORMANCE DATA DUMP (upd. 2025MAY26)

[Hammer1-1]

10 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

 

What do you suggest? If both models are not good, what is your solution? What brand has the best model?

Honesly Id go over and try Hobby Boss over Trumpeter. Ive never worked an accurate kit from Trumpeter that didnt have poor fit results, inaccurate panel lines and shapes, and be worth the price. But even so, anything is better than the Revell Monogram Thud...

Edited Saturday at 01:52 PM by Hammer1-1

[upyr1]

On 7/2/2025 at 4:44 AM, SOLIDKREATE said:

Taking a guess at how this worked.

The large screen I assume is a way to classify what king of RADAR you're hunting. Although I dont think there would be three osicciliscope type readouts/ I think each one represents the 'E-BAND, G-BAND, I-BAND. It also kind of acts like an Azimuth readout too. Basically the EWO gives the pilot course instructions. The smalled screen tyo the right is the actual Seeker Head input from the AGM-78.

I guess when uncaged it actively sweeps? I think it acts just like the damn F-5E RADAR does. You adjust the seaaker head angle na dbasically steer until the head locks on. This may not sweep like I have it depicted. The "return" may actually appear in the lower half of the screen too (derp). My assumption for the tick marks on the left screen are AZ angle. Probabaly in 5 degree increments. I think the STARM is allowed 20deg based on what Blaze posted.

Let me know guys, let's keep this going.

 

***** EDIT, I think the indicators on the right screen do move but they only move when you move them. There is the large AGM-78 panel on the right and it has both an angle adjustment knob and an AZ adjustment knob. Then again there is a Sweep Rate, Attenuation and tuning knob. Maybe it does sweep and you still move the crossshairs over the RADR return or signal spike and then lock?

 

To get things back on topic, do you think it would be possible for ED to produce a reasonable Wild Weasel, provided they fixed the EW modeling and the proper manuals? 

I figure if the Thud is being done as a mod, it would only make sense to do a Wild Weasel if the following are true.

1.  We have enough data to do a proper Wild Weasel at some point in the future if ED ever improves the EW?
2. Given the state of the EW modeling and what can be done with scripts, there is a way to make SEAD different in a D and Wild Weasel. 

If the first is false, then I say leave the Wild Weasel as AI only. 

If the first is true and there is a way to accurately simulate what the pilot saw with in the limits of DCS then it might work

Edited Saturday at 08:52 PM by upyr1

[SOLIDKREATE]

I think we can 'fake' it now. I beleieve if they or a MOD team scratch built new SAMs, we'd be okay. I'm sure an add-on could be made to give all the RADAR's on every plane/ground vehicle a unique frequency. Then provide a kneeboard checklist of freq's that we can classify RADAR's to. We already kind of have this with the RWR which is way more advanced in this game.

I cannot speak to something like that actually existing. I never saw anything we had that just "knew" it was a friendly F-15/6/8 ect. What we did see on the indicator was 'FC' 'SR' ect. That would be 'Fire Control', 'Search RADAR'. I had to use my Mode 4 Interrogator to do that. ED does not have that modeled in here and what we have is wildly inacurrate. I like freedom so, I can't get into that.

Coincidentally the PAR (Precision Approach Control RADAR) is an old Fir Control RADAR. So, we got practice with those and using our EPL book. The only other thing is that someones microwave in their house reads a an FC RADAR too LOL. For an old girl she was a powerful bird (P-3C). I know what you all see on Wikipedia, but we can carry way more exotic stuff that that.

The we'd have to have some way for players to take a slot to perfomr 'M.I.J.I.' as well.

Edited Saturday at 09:00 PM by SOLIDKREATE

[SOLIDKREATE]

Going back to my third sentence, what I mean is this:

EW = EARLY WARNING, FA = FIGHTER AIRCRAFT, BA = BOMBER AIRCRAFT, SA = SURFACE TO AIR

• SOVIET FA - 300 ~ 350MHz
• NATO FA - 340 ~ 400Mhz
• SOVIET BA - 200 ~ 340MHz
• NATO BA - 170 ~ 390MHz
• SOVIET EW - 100 ~ 220MHz
• NATO EW - 120 ~ 210MHz
• SOVIET SA - 500 ~ 700MHz
• NATO SA - 550 ~ 660MHz

 

Then our faux EPL would have this:

• MiG-29A - 331MHz ~ 336MHz
• F-16C - 347MHz ~ 366MHz
• SA-2 - 551MHz ~ 543MHz

Just as an example and not fact. After we get your freq, we'ds try an dreac h out to you and do a MODE 4 Check. The thing is the mission maker would have to program the Cipher key when he/she makes the mission. I dont think we have this?

Edited Saturday at 10:23 PM by SOLIDKREATE

[Blaze1]

18 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

It's not that our equipment really knew how to do this. We had good intelligence brought to us by the CIA and boots on ground (SEALs, Rangers, ect).

Yup that' what I thought.  Humint plays a huge role in creating the library describing the 'thumbprint'.  The system/sensors then know what to look for, but also have to be pretty sensitive and discriminating.

[Blaze1]

On 7/2/2025 at 10:44 AM, SOLIDKREATE said:

Taking a guess at how this worked.

The large screen I assume is a way to classify what king of RADAR you're hunting. Although I dont think there would be three osicciliscope type readouts/ I think each one represents the 'E-BAND, G-BAND, I-BAND. It also kind of acts like an Azimuth readout too. Basically the EWO gives the pilot course instructions. The smalled screen tyo the right is the actual Seeker Head input from the AGM-78.

I guess when uncaged it actively sweeps? I think it acts just like the damn F-5E RADAR does. You adjust the seaaker head angle na dbasically steer until the head locks on. This may not sweep like I have it depicted. The "return" may actually appear in the lower half of the screen too (derp). My assumption for the tick marks on the left screen are AZ angle. Probabaly in 5 degree increments. I think the STARM is allowed 20deg based on what Blaze posted.

Let me know guys, let's keep this going.

 

***** EDIT, I think the indicators on the right screen do move but they only move when you move them. There is the large AGM-78 panel on the right and it has both an angle adjustment knob and an AZ adjustment knob. Then again there is a Sweep Rate, Attenuation and tuning knob. Maybe it does sweep and you still move the crossshairs over the RADR return or signal spike and then lock?

 

I believe the larger screen on the left (part of the APR-35 is called the panoramic display) works as you drew it, with the three separate sections of the display to show signal traces in the three bands.

The smaller, right-hand display (analysis display also part of the APR-35) can be used to show a number of things depending on the mode selected.  When tuned to a signal, it will present info on that signal as a trace, but by changing modes it can show homing, with the circle 'shown' which indicates the direction of the emitter.  There is also a direction finding mode, with two vertical strobes representing signal strength from the left or right of the aircraft in relation to the signal or a trace display option, where an increase or decrease in signal strength from the left or right of the jet, is proportional to the length of the trace and a simultaneous increase or decrease in strobe length, is an indication of signal strength.

The blank panel next to the APR-36/37 warning scope, should be fitted with another APR-36/37 scope (Attack Scope Display).  This second scope is used to select targets via a cursor, however, unlike the warning scope, this scope only displays targets which both the APR-36/37 & APR-35 are tuned to.

 

Edited Sunday at 12:19 AM by Blaze1

[Blaze1]

2 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

I cannot speak to something like that actually existing. I never saw anything we had that just "knew" it was a friendly F-15/6/8 ect. What we did see on the indicator was 'FC' 'SR' ect. That would be 'Fire Control', 'Search RADAR'. I had to use my Mode 4 Interrogator to do that. ED does not have that modeled in here and what we have is wildly inacurrate. I like freedom so, I can't get into that.

RWRs in real life can differentiate between different radars and ID them as F15, F18, F4 etc, but they're subject to ambiguities, so on occasion may not actually be what the system says they are.

Edited Saturday at 11:38 PM by Blaze1

[SOLIDKREATE]

1 hour ago, Blaze1 said:

I believe the larger screen on the left (part of the APR-35 is called the panoramic display) works as you drew it, with the three separate sections of the display to show signal traces in the three bands.

The smaller, right-hand display (analysis display also part of the APR-35) can be used to show a number of things depending on the mode selected.  When tuned to a signal, it will present info on that signal as a trace, but by changing modes it can show homing, with the circle 'shown' which indicates the direction of the emitter.  There is also a direction finding mode, with two vertical strobes represent signal strength from the left or right of the aircraft in relation to the signal or a trace display option, where an increase or decrease in signal strength from the left or right of the jet, is proportional to the length of the trace and a simultaneous increase or decrease in strobe length, is an indication of signal strength.

The blank panel next to the APR-36/37 warning scope, should be fitted with another APR-36/37 scope.  This second scope is used to select targets via a cursor, however, unlike the warning scope, this scope only displays targets which both the APR-36/37 & APR-35 are tuned to.

 

Thank you man! I'm drawing up another one right now. I saw another photo and the horizontal screen cursors dont appear to move at all. I think it is some sort of phosporecent paint that glows when the scope is lit. I think the goal is to get the signal spike in the center ring. For example if the spike is dead center, but the tip is above the center mark, we'd point the AGM-78 antenna down until it is. In addition I believe the left and right extremes of the centerline are range of that band freq. When I gte done I will make a PowerPoint and upload for everyone to see and discuss over.

 

[Blaze1]

6 minutes ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

Thank you man! I'm drawing up another one right now. I saw another photo and the horizontal screen cursors dont appear to move at all. I think it is some sort of phosporecent paint that glows when the scope is lit. I think the goal is to get the signal spike in the center ring. For example if the spike is dead center, but the tip is above the center mark, we'd point the AGM-78 antenna down until it is. In addition I believe the left and right extremes of the centerline are range of that band freq. When I gte done I will make a PowerPoint and upload for everyone to see and discuss over.

 

Do you have a link to the photo?

[SOLIDKREATE]

26 minutes ago, Blaze1 said:

Do you have a link to the photo?

 

You'll see the shadow of the crosshair on the right horizonta screen is parallaxed to the white lines.

 

[Blaze1]

1 minute ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

 

You'll see the shadow of the crosshair on the right horizonta screen is parallaxed to the white lines.

 

Okay, I have that photo.  It's from the USAF museum website.

[Blaze1]

17 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

Thank you man! I'm drawing up another one right now. I saw another photo and the horizontal screen cursors dont appear to move at all. I think it is some sort of phosporecent paint that glows when the scope is lit. I think the goal is to get the signal spike in the center ring. For example if the spike is dead center, but the tip is above the center mark, we'd point the AGM-78 antenna down until it is. In addition I believe the left and right extremes of the centerline are range of that band freq. When I gte done I will make a PowerPoint and upload for everyone to see and discuss over.

 

Yes, that's how it works.  I mentioned a circle before, but that's wrong, it's a dot.  The circle, vertical and horizontal lines on the analysis display are inscribed, but there is a dot that represents the position of the targeted signal, the aim of which is to place inside the circle.  The aiming dot also appears on the pilots gunsight.

Edited Sunday at 06:13 PM by Blaze1

[SOLIDKREATE]

@Blaze1

 

PDF Presentation of how I think it works: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10je2By2eTCpCkbA8fPzQUmha7eR4OFJS/view?usp=sharing

Based on what the scoped screen looks like (color), I changed the asthetic to what a vintage oscilloscope display. It's like a semi backlit phosphor card with lamps behind it.

 

(EXAMPLE)

 

Edited Sunday at 10:04 PM by SOLIDKREATE

[Blaze1]

12 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

@Blaze1

 

PDF Presentation of how I think it works: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10je2By2eTCpCkbA8fPzQUmha7eR4OFJS/view?usp=sharing

Based on what the scoped look like, I changed the asthetic to what a vintage oscilloscope would look like. It's like a semi backlit phosphor card with lamps behind it.

 

(EXAMPLE)

 

That looks good.  The position of the trace on the panoramic display (the larger square display) shouldn't change as a function of the direction of the emitter, as it's just a frequency vs amplitude display.  Also the analysis display (the one with the dot), is not a b-scope.  I don't believe is should have a sweep line on it.

 

EDIT:

I've just read the textual descriptions that were attached to the three edited images.  You described the panoramic display as depicting range, rather than azimuth (which I previously thought you had described), this isn't quite right, it's just a frequency vs amplitude display.  The analysis display can also show this for a specific threat/signal, when in the 'OMNI' or 'Video' modes.

Edited Sunday at 09:29 PM by Blaze1

[SOLIDKREATE]

5 hours ago, Blaze1 said:

That looks good.  The position of the trace on the panoramic display (the larger square display) shouldn't change as a function of the direction of the emitter, as it's just a frequency vs amplitude display.  Also the analysis display (the one with the dot), is not a b-scope.  I don't believe is should have a sweep line on it.

 

EDIT:

I've just read the textual descriptions that were attached to the three edited images.  You described the panoramic display as depicting range, rather than azimuth (which I previously thought you had described), this isn't quite right, it's just a frequency vs amplitude display.  The analysis display can also show this for a specific threat/signal, when in the 'OMNI' or 'Video' modes.

 

I did describe AZ° earlier but then I thought 'Range'. I did this because what I described as the "B-Scope" already gives you AZ°. I added the faux sweep animation because just below the right side of the display it says "Sweep Rate". If it really doesn't have a sweep persay, then the dot would still have a target trail and most likely pulse with the sweep. Then the EWO just adjusts the inclination on the ANT and give the pilot course commands "Turn left", "Stop Turn", "Fly Heading Two-Three-Zero" ect. This is what I did as an EWO based off of my equipment. *ADHD side quest* - I dod remember one piece of my gear was the AN/ALR-66(???).

Edited Sunday at 10:03 PM by SOLIDKREATE

[Blaze1]

1 hour ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

 

I did describe AZ° earlier but then I thought 'Range'. I did this because what I described as the "B-Scope" already gives you AZ°. I added the faux sweep animation because just below the right side of the display it says "Sweep Rate". If it really doesn't have a sweep persay, then the dot would still have a target trail and most likely pulse with the sweep. Then the EWO just adjusts the inclination on the ANT and give the pilot course commands "Turn left", "Stop Turn", "Fly Heading Two-Three-Zero" ect. This is what I did as an EWO based off of my equipment. *ADHD side quest* - I dod remember one piece of my gear was the AN/ALR-66(???).

I believe the sweep rate knob adjusts how fast the receiver scans/listens to the selected band from end to end.  The antennas can't really be directed like that, they should be automatically directed by the system.

I think there's a little bit of info on the AN/ALR-66 in the P-3 NATOPS.  It's described as an RWR.  The P-3's AN/ULQ-16 is perhaps closer in function to the APR-35 than the ALR-66.

Edited Sunday at 11:52 PM by Blaze1

[SOLIDKREATE]

@Blaze1

F-105G EWO Speculation v1.1 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YfV0-FuAQpEaUhkdXQyib-J7wM3qfgC-/view?usp=sharing

(Example of change)

Edited yesterday at 05:26 AM by SOLIDKREATE

[SOLIDKREATE]

 

 

 

@Blaze1 @upyr1 And no we know the names of the equipment! 

 

SOURCE, AND CREDIT TO: http://hud607.fire.prohosting.com/uncommon/reference/usa/sead.html

 

Wild Weasel III

Improved Wild Weasel program using higher-performance aircraft and integrating lessons learned from Wild Weasel I program.
One initial prototype Republic EF-105F Thunderchief conversion:
F-105F-1-RE s/n 62-4416.
First flight 15 January 1966.
Electronic and other gear:
APR-25(V) (ATI Vector 4) RHAW.
IR-133C panoramic scan receiver.
APR-26 (WR-300) Launch Warning Receiver.
AZ-EL system.
Stancil-Hoffman two-channel tape recorder.
KA-71 combat motion picture camera.
Standard F-105F armament, plus AGM-45 Shrike capability.
EF-105F designation was unofficial.
Ten additional EF-105F conversions, known serials:
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8262.
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8273.
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8285 Honey.
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8286.
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8301 Jinkin' Josie.
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8302 half a yard.
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8317 HALF FAST.
F-105F-1-RE s/n 63-8330.
May 1966: all EF-105F (except first prototype) deployed to Korat, Thailand, for operational testing; four modified with North American SEE-SAM(B) passive warning system.
Operated with 13th Tactical Fighter Squadron, 388th Tactical Fighter Wing.
3 June 1966: first orientation mission.
7 June 1966: first radar site kill.
August 1966: additional EF-105F detachment with 354th Tactical Fighter Squadron, Takhli, Thailand.
23 July 1966: first combat loss (five total).
Summer 1967: six EF-105F from combat units and four EF-105F from Nellis AFB modified with AGM-78A-1 Standard ARM capability and deployed to 357th Tactical Fighter Squadron for combat testing; one aircraft (s/n 62-4441) lost in combat before modification.
1966-1967: 7th Air Force orders all F-105s to carry at least one AIM-9 Sidewinder on all combat missions.
1967: 7th Air Force revise order to require all tactical combat aircraft flying missions over North Viet Nam to carry ECM pods, thus reducing Wild Weasel combat capability:
Normal combat load: two AGM-45 Shrike and two CBUs under wings and one 600 gal. drop tank on centerline.
Alternative combat load: two AGM-45 Shrike and two 450 gal. drop tanks under wings and four-six bombs or CBUs on centerline.
Reduced combat load: one AGM-45 Shrike, one ECM pod, two CBUs, one 600 gal. drop tank.
Fall 1967: Continued equipment improvements and need for increased ordnance capability lead to development of F-105G by Republic, Westinghouse and USAF Tactical Air Warfare Center.
8 March 1968: first EF-105F w/ AGM-78 combat mission.
April 1968: Initial F-105G combat deployment.
10 May 1968: first EF-105F combat firing of AGM-78.
Continued EF-105F equipment updates:
ATI RHAW improvements.
KA-60 strike camera, later KA-71.
ATI Pointer System into optical sight homing display.
Loral QRC-317A SEE-SAMS system, later updated as ALR-31.
F-105G updgrades (86 conversions from F-105F/EF-105F):
Westinghouse ALQ-101 ECM pod mounted on fuselage sides, initially as QRC-380, standardized as ALQ-105 ECM system; first tested in F-105F s/n 62-4414; installed on all F-105F/G from 1971.
APR-35/36 RHAW system (replaced APR-25/26 and ER-142).
ALR-31 SEE-SAMS (replaced QRC-317A).
APR-37.
QRC-373 jammer.
AGM-78B (Mod 1).
Typical combat loads:
Two AGM-45 Shrike ARMs on two outboard underwing stations; one AGM-78B Standard ARM on right inboard underwing station, one 450 gal. drop tank on left inboard underwing station, or
Two AGM-45 and two AGM-78 ARMs underwings and one 600 gal. drop tank under centerline.
Known F-105G serial numbers:
F-105F-1-RE 62-4416.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4422.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4423.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4424.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4425.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4427.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4428.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4432.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4434.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4436.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4438.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4439.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4440.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4442.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4443.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4444.
F-105F-1-RE 62-4446.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8265.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8266.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8274.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8275.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8276.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8278.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8284.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8285.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8291.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8292.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8296.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8300.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8301.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8302.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8303.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8304.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8305.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8306.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8307.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8311.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8313.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8316.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8318.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8319.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8320.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8321.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8326.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8327.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8328.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8332.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8333.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8334.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8336.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8339.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8340.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8342.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8345.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8347.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8350.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8350.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8351.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8355.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8359.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8360.
F-105F-1-RE 63-8363.
Republic F-105G Wild Weasel III
Republic F-105G Thunderchief (Wild Weasel III) s/n 62-4428

Willie Weasel College 4537th Fighter Weapons School

Established by Wild Weasel I crews at Nellis AFB, February 1966.
Dean: Col. Garry Williard, Jr.
Instructors:
Maj. Jack Donovan.
Maj. Walt Lifsey.
Maj. Ed White.
Maj. Al Lamb.
Maj. Maury Fricke.
Maj. Shep Kerr.
Maj. John Mojica.
Maj. Frank O'Donnell.
Maj. Rick Morgan.
Crew selection, pilot/EWO pairing.
Initially four-six week courses, some later up to twelve weeks long.
Twenty-one missions against simulated Soviet radar sites at St. George or Hawthorne Ranges in Utah.
Flight and ground training.
Three North American T-39A Sabreliners modified as T-39F "Teeny Weeny Weasel" trainers:
Passenger seats removed.
EF-105F equipment installed, including APR-25 RHAW, IR-133C panoramic receiver, APR-26 LWR and Loral QRC-317A SEE-SAMS; RHAW and AZ-EL antennas on nose/tail.
Three EWO training consoles installed.
Known serial numbers:
CT-39A-1-NA 59-2872, NAA c/n 265-5.
T-39-A-1-NA 60-3507, NAA c/n 265-35.
A-7E
USN LTV A-7E-6-CV Corsair II (BuNo 157454) with AGM-45 Shrike

Iron Hand: US Navy SAM suppression in Viet Nam

Summer 1967.
Several modified Grumman A-6A Intruders.
Equipment included ATI ER-142 receiver system, Bendix APS-107B RHAW
AGM-78 Standard ARM capability.
A-6B: A-6A SEAD field conversions:
Equipment included:
AS-2839/ALP-55 Warning Antennas.
AS-2Q50 Homing Antennas.
APL PAT/ARM system.
AGM-78A Standard ARM.
IBM TIAS.
Known serial numbers (19 A-6A conversions):
BuNo 149944, c/n I-25.
BuNo 149949, c/n I-30.
BuNo 149955, c/n I-36.
BuNo 149957, c/n I-38.
BuNo 151558, c/n I-40.
BuNo 151559, c/n I-41.
BuNo 151560, c/n I-42.
BuNo 151561, c/n I-43.
BuNo 151562, c/n I-44.
BuNo 151563, c/n I-45.
BuNo 151564, c/n I-46.
BuNo 151565, c/n I-47.
BuNo 151591, c/n I-73.
BuNo 151820, c/n I-123.
BuNo 152616, c/n I-164.
BuNo 152617, c/n I-165.
BuNo 154046/154099 (54 cancelled conversions).
BuNo 155628, c/n I-354.
BuNo 155629, c/n I-355.
BuNo 155630, c/n I-356.
August 1967: first A-6B delivery.
26 August 1968: first flight of first aircraft (BuNo 155628) of second batch of A-6B conversions.
August 1970: final A-6B delivery.
December 1975 - 1979: 14 surviving A-6B converted to A-6E.
Unknown number of Douglas A-4F Skyhawks also convered for SAM suppression for use on smaller aircraft carriers; equipment included Bendix APS-107B RHAW.
Some Vought A-7E Corsair II also used for SAM suppression with APS-107 RHAW.

 

Edited yesterday at 05:40 AM by SOLIDKREATE