Roller25 Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 What's the most "realistic" option for HMD render in VR? I've read that although in the real jet it is rendered infront of the right eye, it can be seen with both. So in that case, wouldn't it be more realistic rendered for both in VR? I'm using right eye at the moment, but it doesn't feel very natural.
speed-of-heat Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 Eh? That setting i think only effects the 2d mirror SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Roller25 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Posted August 11, 2022 No, you can change which eye to render the HMD to in with VR, or render in both eyes.. 1
speed-of-heat Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 where do you think you can do that ? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Hoirtel Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, Roller25 said: What's the most "realistic" option for HMD render in VR? I've read that although in the real jet it is rendered infront of the right eye, it can be seen with both. So in that case, wouldn't it be more realistic rendered for both in VR? I'm using right eye at the moment, but it doesn't feel very natural. I was the same but then felt I had to get used to it for the apache. It takes time but you do get used to it. I would also like to know what's realistic for F18/F16. I have seen videos of A10C pilots with a small screen over the right eye, I assume its the same but the JMHCs does seem quite large. 1
Roller25 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Posted August 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: where do you think you can do that ? In the special tab for the Hornet.
speed-of-heat Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 oh you mean the the Hornet's HMD in game, gotcha yes one eye is realistic. both is clearer I use the default right 2 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Roller25 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hoirtel said: I was the same but then felt I had to get used to it for the apache. It takes time but you do get used to it. I would also like to know what's realistic for F18/F16. I have seen videos of A10C pilots with a small screen over the right eye, I assume its the same but the JMHCs does seem quite large. The Apache I can deal with getting used to it through the right eye because the real one is a monocle over one eye.. But I *think* the JHMCS is more like an image projected on a screen which happens to be displayed to the right side.. 3 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: oh you mean the the Hornet's HMD in game, gotcha yes one eye is realistic. both is clearer I use the default right Is it realistic though? In the real one if you closed your right eye, would you still see it with your left? To my understanding the image is just favored to the right side.. 1
speed-of-heat Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 its right eye only is my understanding SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Hoirtel Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, Roller25 said: The Apache I can deal with getting used to it through the right eye because the real one is a monocle over one eye.. But I *think* the JHMCS is more like an image projected on a screen which happens to be displayed to the right side.. Interesting, I couldn't stand right eye until I forced myself to get used to the apache. Its visible monocle is great in VR. Now I use right in the jets without noticing. I would go back to both if this was realistic Just thought I would check wiki to see, doesn't say much about eye render but I did spot the line: The integration of the night-vision goggles with the JHMCS was a key requirement of the program. Hmm? Wiki rubbish?
Roller25 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Posted August 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, Hoirtel said: Interesting, I couldn't stand right eye until I forced myself to get used to the apache. Its visible monocle is great in VR. Now I use right in the jets without noticing. I would go back to both if this was realistic Just thought I would check wiki to see, doesn't say much about eye render but I did spot the line: The integration of the night-vision goggles with the JHMCS was a key requirement of the program. Hmm? Wiki rubbish? I think in DCS using VR, neither is entirely realistic due to the way our headsets are. But perhaps, only for the JHMCS, both eyes could pass as somewhat realistic. I guess only a real Hornet driver could answer the question 1
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Roller25 Posted August 12, 2022 Author Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) "..on the pilots visor.." I'm starting to think rendering both eyes might give a more accurate representation in VR... Edited August 12, 2022 by Roller25
Swift. Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, 5ephir0th said: Not JHMCS. And my understanding is its projected on the single visor as you guys have described, but it's projected on the right hand side in front of the right eye. So if you close your right eye I think you'd be able to see it still out of you left peripheral but it wouldn't be useable. On 8/11/2022 at 10:29 AM, Hoirtel said: Just thought I would check wiki to see, doesn't say much about eye render but I did spot the line: The integration of the night-vision goggles with the JHMCS was a key requirement of the program. Hmm? Wiki rubbish? There is a development of JHMCS that allows the visor to be swapped for NVG and allow JHMCS symbology to be projected inside the tubes. But they don't use it IRL and definitely didn't use it on the legacy hornets. Edited August 13, 2022 by Swift. 2 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2
Aquorys Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 If you were looking at an image that is projected in front of the right eye with your left eye, that would create parallax problems. Depending on how that system is designed, you would either not see the markings that are projected, or if you could see them, they would not match with the outside world. F-16 / Su-33 / Ka-50 F-16 Checklists (Kneeboard compatible) F-16 BVR training missions
Roller25 Posted August 13, 2022 Author Posted August 13, 2022 I read somewhere that it's projected onto the visor slightly off centre to the right. Not directly over the right eye..
dawgie79 Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) I have it rendered in both eyes otherwise it's not clear and hard to read. I guess VR headsets are not really comparable to JHMCS systems. Edited August 14, 2022 by dawgie79 1
Brass2-1 Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 Most people are dominant in one eye, much as they’re right or left handed. I believe that right eye dominant is also most common, so projecting an image to the right eye is ideal for most users. To test your own eyes, point at something in the distance with both eyes open. Close one eye, and then alternate. The eye which the pointing finger is aligned with is the dominant eye. I am very much left eye dominant, so I use the HMD in both eyes in DCS. Right only is nearly impossible to use. 1
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