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Why no pursuit of modern Stealth craft such as the B-2 Stealth Bomber?

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StinkyWizard

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Am just curious.   Lack of unclassified imagery, specs, etc?   I can't image this wouldn't sell like hotcakes.  It was introduced in the 80s, so would think some information might be known 30 year in.   But I honestly don't know if that would be the case or not.   Am genuinely curious, this is not a 'troll' question, I'd just like to know the logic, reasoning, etc.

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Eh, to treat this OP seriously. It's due to ,1. most , if not all Stealth aircraft are classified. While the B-2A was developed in the 80s, the design and systems employed are on a need to know basis . 2. even if you could get SME information, the gameplay imo and others may say otherwise, would be pretty boring. 

 

Mike_Romeo

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1 hour ago, StinkyWizard said:

Am just curious.   Lack of unclassified imagery, specs, etc?   I can't image this wouldn't sell like hotcakes.  It was introduced in the 80s, so would think some information might be known 30 year in.   But I honestly don't know if that would be the case or not.   Am genuinely curious, this is not a 'troll' question, I'd just like to know the logic, reasoning, etc.

The B-2 might be over 40 years old but its still the main US stealth bomber and so it remains top classified. To give you a impression how classified it is, the first pictures of its cockpit where declassfied in 2019. If the cockpit was that classified, you can imagine how classified the rest of its systems are. The following video shows everything the public knows about its displays.

 

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StinkyWizard

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Thank you all.  I honestly did not realize that the information was still as classified and this directly answered my question.  Thank you all for taking the time to respond.  I appreciate it.

 

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Tank50us

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Now, with everything above being said, it should be noted that none of this matters if someone is just developing an AI Asset. The reason I say this is because when it's just an AI aircraft, there's no need to worry about systems, and other classified data. The trick at this point is modeling the thing to look as good as the current AI assets being developed, and while that is certainly a challenge, it's not something that's insurmountable.

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21 minutes ago, Tank50us said:

Now, with everything above being said, it should be noted that none of this matters if someone is just developing an AI Asset. The reason I say this is because when it's just an AI aircraft, there's no need to worry about systems, and other classified data. The trick at this point is modeling the thing to look as good as the current AI assets being developed, and while that is certainly a challenge, it's not something that's insurmountable.

True! Makes me wish MAM could be part of DCS core. 😊 

Cheers! 

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40 minutes ago, Tank50us said:

Now, with everything above being said, it should be noted that none of this matters if someone is just developing an AI Asset. The reason I say this is because when it's just an AI aircraft, there's no need to worry about systems, and other classified data. The trick at this point is modeling the thing to look as good as the current AI assets being developed, and while that is certainly a challenge, it's not something that's insurmountable.

The AI does still need a flight model and some rudimentary avionics. The B-2 also has a LPI radar, which is something DCS currently doesn't model.

Give the simplicity of most DCS AI, a B-2 probably isn't off the table completely, but it would also be nice if AI fidelity was a little higher.

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MAXsenna

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1 hour ago, upyr1 said:

National security is a big issue when it comes to modern aircraft. As @Tank50us pointed out AI assets aren't that big of deal and we also have the possibility of a community mod. 

It's not a possibility. It's already in MAM.😉

Or was that what you meant?

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5 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

It's not a possibility. It's already in MAM.😉

Or was that what you meant?

I was thinking more of a flyable B-2 mod. MAM though is AI only. 

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10 minutes ago, upyr1 said:

I was thinking more of a flyable B-2 mod. MAM though is AI only. 

Apologies! You wrote "mod". A mod is a modification. The A-4E-C is not a mod. It's a community MODULE! 😄 

Confusing isn't it? 🤔 😉 

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The other thing is that RCS is a spherical cow in a vacuum type deal where RCS is a single static number regardless of aspect, configuration or frequency. At the moment, IIRC the RCS value DCS uses are for frontal aspect in a clean configuration, for the I band.

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MAXsenna

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25 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

The other thing is that RCS is a spherical cow in a vacuum type deal where RCS is a single static number regardless of aspect, configuration or frequency. At the moment, IIRC the RCS value DCS uses are for frontal aspect in a clean configuration, for the I band.

So very true! 

Seems DCS is going full burners to Cold War country anyway,  which makes me very pleased! 😉👍🏻

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2 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Apologies! You wrote "mod". A mod is a modification. The A-4E-C is not a mod. It's a community MODULE! 😄 

Confusing isn't it? 🤔 😉 

I use the term mod for anything that isn't an official module. So a community module is an example of a mod. As Is an ai asset pack. So I am not confused you are. Anyway my point still remains the same, if we have jsdams and targeting system nothing is stopping the community from building a Franken bomber called the B-2 spirit. 

2 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

So very true! 

Seems DCS is going full burners to Cold War country anyway,  which makes me very pleased! 😉👍🏻

I am happy about that. I am just unhappy someone took a shredder to the republic archives. 😔 

MAXsenna

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3 hours ago, upyr1 said:

I use the term mod for anything that isn't an official module. So a community module is an example of a mod. As Is an ai asset pack. So I am not confused you are. Anyway my point still remains the same, if we have jsdams and targeting system nothing is stopping the community from building a Franken bomber called the B-2 spirit. 

I am happy about that. I am just unhappy someone took a shredder to the republic archives. 😔 

Oh, the perils of the Internet! Lord give me strength!!! By "confusing" I meant that you and I use the term "mod" differently, like many others. I meant no offence! Hence the confusion! 

And I totally agree with you. Let's go cold war! 

@Northstar98 Why can't they all be like you? One of these days I'm gonna match you up with my daughter! 😄 

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