GGTharos Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 GG, uhoh7 might mean aircraft that came from the SU-27. You have to admit the SU-27 design, the basic configuration, is very commonly used and it is hard to tell (some times) the difference between different variants. Of course I know that. ;) I can't speak for Uhoh7, but I do know that I suck at A2A. :D That's part of why I love Black Shark - I'm pretty good with a helicopter and don't have to keep embarrassing myself with my terrible A2A skills. :D Darn, you don't see too many people admitting to that! :D Glad you're enjoying Black Shark! :) Well it's got some dumb grnd capability as I remember from LO, but point taken. How about the su-30KI? single seat multi-role? To bad indonesia pulled out of that order. If it doesn't exist, it can't get modeled ... right? :) I'm pretty certain when the list specified 'Su-27', it didn't mean 'some Su-30+ type variant', but I've been wrong before :) hehe, i did get sort of competent online with LO. Again you have me sir, I was shocked at how many mig-29s were exported. Anyway, my point is just that multirole variants with a single cockpit would enhance game play the most, becasue there are so many mission scenarios possible. You're certainly right, I'm just pulling your leg, hehe ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
ericinexile Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 I wish we could freeze the world of Military sims at circa 1990. After that, accurate modeling becomes a compromise between what is known and fantasy. The equipment available during the cold war was the most enjoyable to fly and simple enough to master. Trying to model today's hardware and today's netcentric warfare will result in less enjoyable aircraft and near unplayable battlefields. And this clamor for the F-14? Why? It was designed to fly far from the fleet and launch a Phoenix at an unseen enemy 50 + NM away. Without Tom Cruise at the stick, it has about as much BFM capability as a B-737. It makes me want to take a nap just writing about it. ED, stick to Russian designs! They're beautiful and ugly all at once. And they are eminately flyable. Love and peace, Smokin' Hole Smokin' Hole My DCS wish list: Su25, Su30, Mi24, AH1, F/A-18C, Afghanistan ...and frankly, the flight sim world should stop at 1995.
MBot Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 And this clamor for the F-14? Why? It was designed to fly far from the fleet and launch a Phoenix at an unseen enemy 50 + NM away. Without Tom Cruise at the stick, it has about as much BFM capability as a B-737. It makes me want to take a nap just writing about it. The IRIAF pilots could handel the F-14 quite well in dogfights ;)
Pilotasso Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 What's all this talk about fast jets and fighters????...Pffft!!!.....you jet jockeys have Flaming cliffs......us rotorheads have been waiting for years and all we get is one measly chopper.....FC had multiple jets.....so when DCS has multiple Choppers then you can get your fast jets....Wait your bloody turn.....impatient kids......nag...nag....nag.....!!!! :) :) :) Kidding ...kidding.....dont beat me!!!!! :) :) :) You guys already have EECH too so whats your point? :D We will get both types in DCS so be patient my friend. :) .
GGTharos Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Watch it, you're up against Tomcat/Eagle/Raptor fans here and we won't let you make a clean get away with those comments ... REPENT SINNER!!!! ;) And this clamor for the F-14? Why? It was designed to fly far from the fleet and launch a Phoenix at an unseen enemy 50 + NM away. Without Tom Cruise at the stick, it has about as much BFM capability as a B-737. It makes me want to take a nap just writing about it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
d0ppler Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 You guys already have EECH too so whats your point? :D ... You guys already have F-14 Fleet Defender, so what's your point? :D A-10C, AV-8B, Ka-50, F-14B, F-16C, F-5E, F/A-18C, L-39, Mi-8, MiG-21, MiG-29, SA34, Spitfire, Su-27, Su-33, UH-1H
ED Team Groove Posted January 6, 2009 ED Team Posted January 6, 2009 DCS "A2A" will be a very very painful experience. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Sunjah Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Watch it, you're up against Tomcat/Eagle/Raptor fans here and we won't let you make a clean get away with those comments ... REPENT SINNER!!!! ;) Well said! Remember, on Nov. 4th, vote for Black Shark for President!!!
104th_Crunch Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 DCS "A2A" will be a very very painful experience. Then bring on the pain! We want our A2A with clickable pits and all the new stuff :pilotfly:
Alexrey Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 Then bring on the pain! We want our A2A with clickable pits and all the new stuff :pilotfly: +1!
Pilotasso Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 DCS "A2A" will be a very very painful experience. Depends how you deal with it. For me it will probably be much easier because I wont have to dodge all those BVR "aereal mines" while playing multiplayer. For those who like to drop the mines it will probably be a complete return to the drawing board of tactics. :) Then yes, its going to be a pain. .
Alexrey Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 Depends how you deal with it. For me it will probably be much easier because I wont have to dodge all those BVR "aereal mines" while playing multiplayer. For those who like to drop the mines it will probably be a complete return to the drawing board of tactics. :) Then yes, its going to be a pain. What do you mean by aerial mines? Sounds interesting.
RvEYoda Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) DCS "A2A" will be a very very painful experience. DCS viper pilot says : *Well i need to move my ministick and hit the TMS up to lock the target. then I fire*. DCS mig29A pilot says : *well i have to flip these 10 switches to get into a scan mode where I have a chance of finding him... Then of course if I lose the lock I must realign them all again ...* or something like this DCS ka50 pilot says : *What the ... just happened?* - killed by r77 DCS f-15 pilot says : *Maddog, maddog, maddog.....ARRRRR what just happened, i used 3 amraams they said they would be better than lockon!* - ate an archer Edited January 6, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda 1 S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Pilotasso Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Means most people dont use realistic tactics because LOMAC bugs doesnt force them to. And that is what is going tor translate most of the difficulty level jump from LOMAC to DCS. nuf said. ;) 1 .
Boberro Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) DCS viper pilot says : *Well i need to move my ministick and hit the TMS up to lock the target. then I fire*. DCS mig29A pilot says : *well i have to flip these 10 switches to get into a scan mode where I have a chance of finding him... Then of course if I lose the lock I must realign them all again ...* or something like this ....then... DCS Viper pilot says: *well, what's wrong with these missiles, I heard I have most modern missile and it didn' hit!* DCS Mig29A pilot says: *well... old, junk, but still works&rocks!* DCS "A2A" will be a very very painful experience. Yep, I guess for most of LO players due of known reasons. Edited January 6, 2009 by Boberro Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
GGTharos Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Then GG tells you: "Get your steady HDTWS track, fox, then crank, A-Pole and once the counter windows down to zero fly away" DCS VIper pilot: "OMFGZ I am getting keelz!!!" DCS Mig Pilot: "NOOOOOOO! OMFG MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE!!! @*(*&@# just don't work!!!!" *boom* [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
RvEYoda Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 hahaha ;D S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
RvETito Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Then comrade Tito tells while flying his Ka-50- GUNZ, GUNZ, GUNZ :D And comrade Yoda says, while flying DCS:Eagle: OH NOOOOO :P BTW, there will be no A-10A in DCS, only C. If you want old school, Lock On is still out there. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Sanch0 Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 DCS "A2A" will be a very very painful experience. I am waiting for many years to feel this specific "pain":pilotfly: PVAF "A fighter without a gun... is like an airplane without a wing" dedicated to F-4 Phantom
RvETito Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Then you should know that all my efforts are directed to sabotage any fighter line in DCS :P Bomber land baby :D Just wait for DCS: Spirit or DCS: Blackjack... The moment your poor Viper, Eagle, Flanker or MiG is spooling up there will be Tomahawks/JDAM's or Kh-65's heading to your base :D Edited January 6, 2009 by =RvE=Tito "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Sanch0 Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Then you should know that all my efforts are directed to sabotage any fighter line in DCS :P Bomber land baby :D Just wait for DCS: Spirit or DCS: Blackjack... The moment your poor Viper, Eagle, Flanker or MiG is spooling up there will be Tomahawks/JDAM's or Kh-65's heading to your base :D Guys get him! :P PVAF "A fighter without a gun... is like an airplane without a wing" dedicated to F-4 Phantom
Sealpup Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Then you should know that all my efforts are directed to sabotage any fighter line in DCS :P Bomber land baby :D Just wait for DCS: Spirit or DCS: Blackjack... The moment your poor Viper, Eagle, Flanker or MiG is spooling up there will be Tomahawks/JDAM's or Kh-65's heading to your base :D That gives me an idea... A-6 Intruder sim. I demand it! 1
RvETito Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 I hear ya brother, A-6 rocks! "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
ED Team Groove Posted January 6, 2009 ED Team Posted January 6, 2009 Lets be fair - no a2a ! :D DCS:Tu-160 ! Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
RvETito Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 That's what I said- DCS:Blackjack :D A2A is sooo old school :P "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
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