IFF from CPG Seat

[KeyserSoze62]

I just recently started playing from the CPG seat after using George AI since launch.  Of course with George you can easily tell if the target is enemy based on the color in the target list.  Other than having an encyclopedic knowledge of enemy units is there any indication from the CPG seat if a unit is enemy on the TEDAC?   I recently did a mission where friendly troops were assaulting a town and I was providing support where the units were in fairly close proximity. Most ground vehicles can be identified easily but infantry on the TEDAC not always so much.

Thanks for any feedback.

 

[Raptor9]

30 minutes ago, KeyserSoze62 said:

is there any indication from the CPG seat if a unit is enemy

Nope. This is one of the challenges of close combat.

It all comes down to situational awareness, crew coordination, and good communication to avoid fratricide. The "IFF functionality" of George (or Petrovich in the Mi-24) isn't like an IFF transponder in fighters that relies on technology, but it simulates the "situational awareness" of the AI crewmember. FYI, George and Petrovich are not fool-proof either. They can make mistakes like a real person.

[KeyserSoze62]

1 hour ago, Raptor9 said:

Nope. This is one of the challenges of close combat.

It all comes down to situational awareness, crew coordination, and good communication to avoid fratricide. The "IFF functionality" of George (or Petrovich in the Mi-24) isn't like an IFF transponder in fighters that relies on technology, but it simulates the "situational awareness" of the AI crewmember. FYI, George and Petrovich are not fool-proof either. They can make mistakes like a real person.

Thanks for the feedback.  As expected and understand the simulation of situational awareness in George.

 

[Hotdognz]

In real world environments I would guess the ground troops would be in touch with the air support via their commanders, in DCS we have no such luck with any AI on the ground in communication with the support the mission maker has put in, if in doubt don't fire until they fire at you

[sirrah]

On 10/3/2022 at 4:55 PM, Raptor9 said:

Nope. This is one of the challenges of close combat.

It all comes down to situational awareness, crew coordination, and good communication to avoid fratricide. The "IFF functionality" of George (or Petrovich in the Mi-24) isn't like an IFF transponder in fighters that relies on technology, but it simulates the "situational awareness" of the AI crewmember. FYI, George and Petrovich are not fool-proof either. They can make mistakes like a real person.

Are you saying that there's a (build in) chance George will indicate a target in red, while in fact it should be blue?

Like a programmed "error" chance?

If so, that is awesome 

[Vakarian]

There most certainly is. Saw it on one of the missions I flew two weeks ago. As I built mission I knew which units belong to which coalition, and for some reason Georgie deliberately called one enemy technical as friendly . That's enough evidence for me that George is not "Eye of the Sauron" anymore and that he too can make a mistake

[sirrah]

2 minutes ago, Vakarian said:

There most certainly is. Saw it on one of the missions I flew two weeks ago. As I built mission I knew which units belong to which coalition, and for some reason Georgie deliberately called one enemy technical as friendly . That's enough evidence for me that George is not "Eye of the Sauron" anymore and that he too can make a mistake

Wow, that's cool!

[admiki]

13 hours ago, sirrah said:

Are you saying that there's a (build in) chance George will indicate a target in red, while in fact it should be blue?

Like a programmed "error" chance?

If so, that is awesome 

New realistic setting will give false reading, even in cases where there are no same units on both sides. Default coalition has Ukraine on blue side, with a bunch of same units as Russia. You really need to have good SA to not go on friendlies.