Beirut Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 9:51 PM, Iron Sights said: For me, I’ll be flying them both, since I will own both. Since the Strike will a new module, so I’m hoping the graphics will be better and systems are heavily modeled. That’s the fun part to me, just getting into the systems and learning to use everything. I see a pretty solid leaning curve with the F-15E but a lot of satisfaction too. Looking forward to dropping big bombs and watching the fun on those glorious MFDs. Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zad Fnark Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Definitely looking forward to this. Plus it looks like we're getting a kickass manual with it too. Something to start me off until "Chuck" saves the day. F-18 seems to have the easiest to run Mavericks of all the planes. Don't know if the Strike Eagle routinely carried them. Questions are a burdon, and answers a prison for one's self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Zad Fnark said: Definitely looking forward to this. Plus it looks like we're getting a kickass manual with it too. Something to start me off until "Chuck" saves the day. F-18 seems to have the easiest to run Mavericks of all the planes. Don't know if the Strike Eagle routinely carried them. It's just that AGM-65s fell out of the armament standard for the F-15E even before 2009 - confirmed by the F-15E pilot that since 2009, when he flew the F-15E, they had not been used for "a few nice" years. The question is in what years did RAZBAM place its module? Edited January 16, 2023 by Nahen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Nahen said: The question is in what years did RAZBAM place its module? They don't, It isn't based on a specific aircraft at a specific time. Its based on the whole life of the Strike Eagle up until relatively recently. Eventually we will get all 3 TGPs it used, LANTIRN, LITENING and SNIPER. We will get the original UFC and the Upgraded LCD one. JHMCS as well. You will be able to "date" the aircraft base on what equipment the mission maker allows to be used. Edited January 16, 2023 by Deano87 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 And cool So AGM-65 should also be available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurts Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 yes in fact in one interview they said the front seater and MP backseater can independently target and fire Mavericks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Provided that you do not use the "image" guidance system, i.e. a TV/CCTV camera and manual guidance of the missile. Only WSO can its. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I think the big reason to fly the F-15E over the F/A-18, which no one seems to have stated, is simply that the Hornet looks like crap and the Eagle is classic ass kicking sexiness. Arguments about arsenals are pointless in this fact, hence why I fly the Tomcat currently over the Bug in our Naval squadron. Sent from my 2107113SG using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Father Cool said: I think the big reason to fly the F-15E over the F/A-18, which no one seems to have stated, is simply that the Hornet looks like crap and the Eagle is classic ass kicking sexiness. Arguments about arsenals are pointless in this fact, hence why I fly the Tomcat currently over the Bug in our Naval squadron. Sent from my 2107113SG using Tapatalk Can't argue with that logic! Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 5:56 PM, Father Cool said: I think the big reason to fly the F-15E over the F/A-18, which no one seems to have stated, is simply that the Hornet looks like crap and the Eagle is classic ass kicking sexiness. Arguments about arsenals are pointless in this fact, hence why I fly the Tomcat currently over the Bug in our Naval squadron. Sent from my 2107113SG using Tapatalk Aw, poor Hornet. You're gonna make it sad if you keep talking like that. You have to show it a bit of love. A little lipstick, some lingerie, it's got some game. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beirut said: Aw, poor Hornet. You're gonna make it sad if you keep talking like that. You have to show it a bit of love. A little lipstick, some lingerie, it's got some game. Haha. Nice livery though. I just think that it looks ugly regardless of colour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Father Cool said: Haha. Nice livery though. I just think that it looks ugly regardless of colour. You people are so harsh. Granted, it doesn't have the blistering sexiness of an F-111, but neither does it look like it was built out of broken Meccano pieces like the Mig-27. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Beirut said: You people are so harsh. Granted, it doesn't have the blistering sexiness of an F-111, but neither does it look like it was built out of broken Meccano pieces like the Mig-27. True but I am all about this so hey. I also hate the look of all the new 5th gen stuff as well so there is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurts Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 The lines of the Tomcat are all swagger and power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Spurts said: The lines of the Tomcat are all swagger and power. Most beautiful plane ever made in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Father Cool said: Most beautiful plane ever made in my opinion. Right after the F-15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfrag Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Father Cool said: Most beautiful plane ever made in my opinion. De gustibus non est disputandum I still think you are wrong. Witness the perfection of airborne beauty: the Avro Vulcan. Everything else simply looks crass and clumsy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 ok we will disagree on both counts haha. The Vulcan is nice though and the F-15 will always be a deception so kudos there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zad Fnark Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I always thought the F-101 was beautiful. 1 Questions are a burdon, and answers a prison for one's self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastRifleRound Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Well the Hornet as currently modeled is a buggy mess, with AG and AA radar does not function properly, missing HOTAS functions, and MSI integrations that are not modeled, ATFLIR offset cues that don't work according to spec, LAR's that don't work, IAMs that are incompletely modeled, and if you don't have access to GPS the rudimentary INS ED put in the thing will have your CCIP pipper near parallel to the ground in level flight due to some unknown cross-wind it thinks it has. Most of these bugs are 2+ years old. The aircraft is out of early access and these issues persist. It took ED 9 years to put INS drift into the black shark and it still doesn't work right. So, I don't know in the real world what out-techs what, but I can tell you based on ED's recent track record and RAZBAM's, more of what the F-15E is supposed to have is likely to work properly than the Hornet. If I had to pick one or the other, I have more faith the F-15E will be a more usable aircraft. Edited January 20, 2023 by LastRifleRound 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwalker99 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 4:00 AM, LastRifleRound said: Well the Hornet as currently modeled is a buggy mess, with AG and AA radar does not function properly, missing HOTAS functions, and MSI integrations that are not modeled, ATFLIR offset cues that don't work according to spec, LAR's that don't work, IAMs that are incompletely modeled, and if you don't have access to GPS the rudimentary INS ED put in the thing will have your CCIP pipper near parallel to the ground in level flight due to some unknown cross-wind it thinks it has. Most of these bugs are 2+ years old. The aircraft is out of early access and these issues persist. It took ED 9 years to put INS drift into the black shark and it still doesn't work right. So, I don't know in the real world what out-techs what, but I can tell you based on ED's recent track record and RAZBAM's, more of what the F-15E is supposed to have is likely to work properly than the Hornet. If I had to pick one or the other, I have more faith the F-15E will be a more usable aircraft. Smacks of the pulpit.. ED should listen to you.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Hey, they at least acknowledged some of those issues. MSI is supposedly in the works, as is a radar rework and IAM modeling. The Hornet is not out of EA yet. I do hope RAZBAM had learned from the Harrier debacle and will get things right the first time. Because based on their track record, the Eaglejet could turn out to have even bigger problems. So far, it does look like they're committed to getting this right, but we'll see once it comes out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwalker99 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 23 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said: Hey, they at least acknowledged some of those issues. MSI is supposedly in the works, as is a radar rework and IAM modeling. The Hornet is not out of EA yet. I do hope RAZBAM had learned from the Harrier debacle and will get things right the first time. Because based on their track record, the Eaglejet could turn out to have even bigger problems. So far, it does look like they're committed to getting this right, but we'll see once it comes out. Is Harrier somewhat fixed? I was thinking about starting training on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Somewhat, but major parts are still WIP, and much of the training is wrong, because it was made before the fixes. I'd wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The Chuck’s guide is correct I think? Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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