Can't use both monitors

[Fakum]

Just jumping in here to try and help a tad if I can, I believe I read that you are using Vista (If not, disregard this post)

You need to edit the option.lua file from your desktop with notepad ++, then move it to the directory:

 

C:\Users\YOUR USER NAME \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\BlackShark\data\scripts

Not:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\BlackShark\data\scripts

[ruprecht]

I reinstalled the program, and cleaned up. searched for dublicates,

tried other card drivers, just in case. l

 

It certainly does seem that it's reading a different options.lua. Simple test: rename the multimonitor file, edit the new name into options.lua, then see if that change is picked up in the options screen. If not, you're editing the wrong options.lua file and there is probably a duplicate in the VirtualStore as Fakum pointed out.

[Fakum]

By the way, I just finished reconfiguring and faking out my PC by moving my secondary monitor over to the right "VIRTUAL" only. WOW!!!! I got the resolutions I want and my Trim indicator and FPS on my main screen.

 

I noticed a big FPS drop in Vista, between dual monitor and non, but just testing the same config out in W7 RC, little FPS drop in W7 RC, but not much. I have some more testing to do, but initialy, it looks like W7 RC is much better performance, even with the dual monitor running.

 

You guys really helped me alot over the last month! thanks a million :thumbup:

[mrniel]

Ruprecht, first off all i want to thank you for your patience and helpfullness.

everything you have suggested was correct, when you asked me to search for

other duplicate files i presumed you meant in the Eagel Dynamics folders.

as you can guess now, the problem was not my programming skills, but

that i was programming the wrong file. stupid me, could have saved myself

and your guys several days work. So yes I was dooing somthing wrong :)

 

As Fakum suggested the correct file was in the virtual store subfolders, under

username. A BIG thank to fakum.

 

Attaching a pic showing result after 2 min work from arriving from work.

 

 

A big hug to you guys, must visit australia soon, as it seems some really nice peop live there.

already been in USA, Fakum :)

 

A very greatful and happy mrniel

[EinsteinEP]

mrniel,

 

I love the TrackIR mount! Good idea!

[mrniel]

Just a fast update now most is working.

 

Pic attached showing setup.

 

Track Ir4 running ir5software.

Mainscreen 1680x1050, main view

15" 1024x768 Touchscreen running DickDastardly software.

Thrustmaster (cougar) Hotas set with pedals. fully user programmable.

Logitech G15. backlighted keyboard. with programmable G-row-buttons.

Laminated colour keycard.

Laminated Startup/flight/shutdown procedures.

DCS Printed manual. (the brick) :)

 

so after annoying rubrecht for a week, i can finally enjoy the game.

 

Personally, the apache release, is the one i'm longing for. as i played

longbow and liked it.

 

mrniel

[ruprecht]

Sensational. All credit to you for your persistence - it does work in the end! Nice looking setup!

 

Fakum, glad you got yours going too. All is right with the world... until my next customer.

Edited August 4, 2009 by ruprecht

[Fakum]

mrniel, glad to hear your up and running. Im glad I can finnally assist for once instead of scratching my head.

 

I must inquire, is that a 15"touch screen you have to the left you say? please elaborate! That looks bad ass! I want one for X-Mas if there not to expensive. I would love to be able to touch the buttons for the ABRIS on the screen.

 

Also, Ill tell ya what I did with my TrakIR, I took the base off, inverted it within the housing, put the front cover back on and put a piece of velcro on the back. It now resides pretty much inconspicuously atteched to the top center on the bevel of my monitor, looks like the monitor came with it attached, so its right there all the time. Just thought you might be interested in relocating it so it is out of the way yet close and center.

[mrniel]

The touchscreen is not to expensive, it's a LG L1510SF LCD display TFT.

 

I offcause bought it on a local website near me, but i'm sure by searching

you can find one near you or order one.

I could have bought the 17 " a bit cheaper, but opted for the 15" despite

it beeing more expensive, because it dosen't take up to much desktopspace

compared to the 17".

 

http://www.dustinhome.dk/pd_5010053838.aspx

 

Reading in the manual about the TrackIr unit, it says the optimum distance

is further away. Your typical distance to the screen is simply to short, if you

mount it on the top of the monitor.

Thats why I moved it back a bit.

If dooing the same, be sure to elevate it a bit, or there will be a shadow zone when

you look down.

 

mrniel

Edited August 5, 2009 by mrniel

[Fakum]

Hmmm ,,, interesting about the TrackIR, I honestly did not read about the distance, I am expieriencing no issues at 2- 3 feet away,, but thanks for the info on both,,,

[skoiboy]

Has the patch screwed all this up for other people as well?

[ruprecht]

What do you mean screwed it up? Screwed what up? Screwed it up how?

[Kurtz]

OK the patch has fixed the phantom monitor issue. How ever it has added another problem.

 

In my multimonitor setup I have 2x 22"w LCD. My primary is on the right hand side. When I launch DCS I get the left side of the GUI on my right monitor and nothing on the left. If I reverse my monitors in the display settings I get both halves of the GUI but the centre of the GUI is on the far right of my RS monitor, and the far left of my LS monitor. Hmm I dont think I can fly like that, any ideas?

 

:)

[ruprecht]

screenshots, photos and posted configs help, it's hard to determine exactly what you're seeing. Pretty sure it won't be insurmountable.

 

Are you still running the phantom monitor fix exe?

Edited August 11, 2009 by ruprecht

[Kurtz]

Ok heres some pics-

 

1. GUI with display setting in correct position RS is primary.

 

 

2. Screenshot incorrectly reports GUI correctly with display setting LS as primary

 

 

3. This is what I see. The cockpit is split in a similar fashion.

 

 

My configs are tried and proven. I can post them if you like. This is the first issue ive had a problem with multimonitor.

 

ps- Phantom fix is inactive. I thought it was redundant with this patch?

 

 

***EDIT*** Ok Phantomfix is still required. All working now :)

Edited August 11, 2009 by Kurtz

[ruprecht]

phew!

 

about to run the patch, guess I'll come up against this too.

[Fakum]

Ive been under a rock the past week, didnt even know the patch was out LOL. and to think, after all that work I finilized last week to get my dual monitor working,,, I will wait to hear the results on this one ,,, yikes

[Ed Hunter]

Hi Guys

done a search and could not find what i need so i hope one of you could help

 

i managed with lots of help to get the shkval and abris to be displayed on a second screen to the right of the main cockpit one. i saved the files out to the desktop and patched the game and put the files back in and the image is just the cocpit but scrunched up to a 3" band down the right of the main screen what have i done wrong or need to do to get it back? and do i need to edit a options lua and what too ?

thanks

Stu

 

my lua is

 

Description = '2MonitorTest'

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = 1440;

y = 0;

width = 1680;

height = 1050;

viewDx = 0;

viewDy = 0;

aspect = 16/10;

}

}

 

Shkval =

{

x = 3840;

y = 400;

width = 720;

height = 450;

}

 

ABRIS =

{

x = 3120;

y = 0;

width = 720;

height = 900;

}

[speed-of-heat]

In Windows 7/Vista

 

No offset is required for Phantom Monitor as this has been now fixed, you still need to change the width of the options lua to the width of Monitor 1 + Monitor 2.

 

["width"] = 3200,

 

and my Camera+Shkval.lua ( Cockpit + Shkval on the RHS) looks like:

 

 
Description = 'Cockpit camera on the left + Shkval on the Right monitor'
Viewports =
{
    Center =
    {
         x = 0;
         y = 0;
         width = 1920;
         height = screen.height;
         viewDx = 0;
         viewDy = 0;
         aspect = 1.5;
    }
}
Shkval =
{
    x = 1920;
    y = 0;
    width = 1280;
    height = 1024;
}

 

and this is for my Cockpit + Shkval/ABRIS

 

 
Description = 'Cockpit camera on the right monitor and ABRIS & Shkval on the left monitor'
Viewports =
{
Center =
{
x = 0;
y = 0;
width = 1920;
height = screen.height;
viewDx = 0;
viewDy = 0;
aspect = 1.5;
}
}
ABRIS =
{
x = 1920; -- starts at the left of the secondary screen, 1920
y = 0;
width = 640; -- half the secondary screen pixel width
height = 1024; -- full height of the secondary screen
}
Shkval =
{
x = 2560; -- as the Shkval starts at the second half of the right monitor, this is 1920 (the main view width) plus half of 1280 (halfway across the right monitor width)
y = 0;
width = 640; -- half of 1024, the secondary monitor width
height = 512; -- to keep the aspect correct, half the height of the secondary screen
}

Edited August 21, 2009 by speed-of-heat

[fred_123]

hi

 

im trying to set up two monitors on black sharck. But i cant find :

 

C:\Users\YOUR USER NAME \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\BlackShark\data\scripts

 

I use windows 7 and i have setup "the folder and files view" to show all files and folders.....

well i get to the virtual store folder, but that is emty!

What do is wrong ??:huh:

[speed-of-heat]

hi

 

im trying to set up two monitors on black sharck. But i cant find :

 

C:\Users\YOUR USER NAME \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\BlackShark\data\scripts

 

I use windows 7 and i have setup "the folder and files view" to show all files and folders.....

well i get to the virtual store folder, but that is emty!

What do is wrong ??:huh:

 

 

I'm not sure changing stuff in the Virtual Store is such a great plan, you should edit it in the Real BS directory not the VS.

 

I think you have three options;

 

 

- one run DCS as administrator

- turn off UAC (I really wouldn't recommend this)

- re-install DCS into a non C:\Program Files directory, I have mine installed in C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\KA-50 (remember to deactivate and keep the reactivation code which you should use when you re-install, see the manual for details)

 

you can then edit the C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\KA50\BlackShark\data\scripts\<nameoffile>.lua without a problem

[Celo63]

Quick question about duplicate options.lua files.

 

In Vista32 my friend has an options file in a "Virtual Store" sub folder and another in a BlackShark install subfolder, which one is the sim going to use and what do you do with the other one? Delete it, rename it, leave it there unchanged? This is not made clear in any of the info I've found so far.

 

I'm trying to help my friend with his dual monitor setup but no joy yet. I've read all the posts and the wiki and have a better handle on it but there must be a simple thing still out of place somewhere. Gonna go through the files and the procedure again (and again.. lol) until I can weed out the error. Just wanted to clear up the duplicate files thing to be sure.

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Seems overly complicated to get dual views working at present. A bit like trying to crack a safe. Miss one click of the tumbler and you're back to square one, lol. Maybe some kind soul will write a utility to take the hassle out of it, like DCS MAx did for processor cores? That would be pretty cool.

[Panzertard]

Quick question about duplicate options.lua files.

 

In Vista32 my friend has an options file in a "Virtual Store" sub folder and another in a BlackShark install subfolder, which one is the sim going to use and what do you do with the other one? Delete it, rename it, leave it there unchanged? This is not made clear in any of the info I've found so far.

 

Microsoft / Vista has their own mechanisms for automagicly putting it there.

To find out which one is active?:

- Do some changes in the virtual store one, start the game and see if it changed anything.

 

;)

[Celo63]

Yep, I guess the old trial and error approach will do it. Just wondered what ppl were doing with the other file...

 

I really hate the way windows makes seemingly un-neccessary duplicate folders for so many things though. Whats the friggin point I ask??? Just takes up extra disk space as far as I can tell and complicates tasks like this dual monitor setup procedure. The mind boggles as to their logic, or lack of.. lol

[PlainSight]

Leave that "Virtual store" (lol) folder alone, you set things up ONLY in your instalation folder, that's it.