Hiten Bongz Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) I have been having issues with my game crashing when I get struck by an enemy missile. It even crashes at the exact same spot when I watch the track file replay (see screenshot, where I watched missile hit me and game instantly crashed). This has been happening with the JF-17 in multiplayer. Not every missile that hits me makes the game crash. In this flyout, I have already died once to a missile and respawned. It was the second death from a missile where I crashed. I had this crash bug here and there in 2.7, but it seems to be happening A LOT more in 2.8...and it makes playing online incredibly frustrating. I don't know if this is a JF-17 bug, a core DCS bug, or even a bug due to a different module/weapon...but it never used to happen and it's gotten progressively worse, and now it happens frequently. Hoping I can get some help here. I also posted in the JF-17 bug forum: dcs.log Edited October 31, 2022 by Hiten Bongz
Flappie Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Hi. Can you please try to reproduce your crash in a short SP track? ---
Hiten Bongz Posted October 31, 2022 Author Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o9MM7utG_W0GEYU5kd7qPSXm06q6S3es/view?usp=share_link Since it's multiplayer I can't exactly force it to be super short, but it's only like 20 or 30 minutes tops. Causes DCS to crash for me at the end when I watch it too. It's the second shoot down where the game crashes. There's a bit of a delay at the beginning before I take off (badly ) because I'm changing a few controls around. Edit: I see you asked for SP, if you could point me to a custom mission I could use to try to quickly reproduce it, I could try. But I don't even know which aircraft or missile etc (if it even matters) is causing me to crash out in the first place...I don't have TacView to watch the track file replay Edited October 31, 2022 by Hiten Bongz
Flappie Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Hi @Hiten Bongz. There as a few crash fixes in the latest OB update. Are you still experiencing these crashes? ---
hx5791 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 The latest updated version of OB still has this problem for me and our players. 1 [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic88081_2.gif[/sIGPIC] http://www.insky.cn
Hiten Bongz Posted November 6, 2022 Author Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) Still crashing. Here's the latest log with a crash when I got hit by a missile. I was trying to evade an AIM-120 and dumping chaff & flares, if that makes any difference at all. 2022-11-06 05:51:13.228 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000 2022-11-06 05:51:13.228 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API 2022-11-06 05:51:32.486 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 66.4ms 2022-11-06 05:51:32.488 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000 2022-11-06 05:51:32.488 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API 2022-11-06 05:51:41.334 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): S2_Press for AA INTC non-STT: 1 1 -> 2 2022-11-06 05:51:54.600 ERROR ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/rearclosehighpower): gain 2022-11-06 05:51:58.874 ERROR ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/afterburnerrearclose): gain 2022-11-06 05:51:58.874 ERROR ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/heavy_rear_afterburner_crackle): gain 2022-11-06 05:51:58.874 ERROR ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/afterburnerrearclose): gain 2022-11-06 05:52:02.501 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 67.5ms 2022-11-06 05:52:04.138 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000 2022-11-06 05:52:04.138 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API 2022-11-06 05:52:22.980 INFO EDCORE (Main): signal caught: 'Abnormal termination' 2022-11-06 05:52:22.981 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2022-11-06 05:52:22.982 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20221106-055223 -------------- 2022-11-06 05:52:22.982 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.0.32235 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19044) 2022-11-06 05:52:22.983 INFO EDCORE (Main): C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll 2022-11-06 05:52:22.983 INFO EDCORE (Main): # 00000000 STATUS_SUCCESS at 3F2ECD29 00:00000000 2022-11-06 05:52:22.985 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Hiten' 2022-11-06 05:52:22.985 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19044 () 0x100-0x1 2022-11-06 05:52:23.314 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000002CD29 (KERNELBASE): RaiseException + 0x69 2022-11-06 05:52:23.315 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006876 (edCore): ed::core::InitVFS::~InitVFS + 0x876 2022-11-06 05:52:23.315 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000071881 (ucrtbase): raise + 0x1E1 2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000072851 (ucrtbase): abort + 0x31 2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006E4A (VCRUNTIME140): _purecall + 0x1A 2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000020142A (WeaponBlocks): wRadarSensorBase::calcTargetSignal + 0x29A 2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001FED30 (WeaponBlocks): wSN_ARA::simulate + 0x210 2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001BB75 (blocksim): wSimulationSystem::simulate + 0x1D5 2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000624FD (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::simulate + 0x13D 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000136C0C (Weapons): wAmmunitionDecoy::spawnSnare + 0x7DC 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000013E1D8 (Weapons): wAmmunitionSelfHoming::simulate + 0x158 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005F28A (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::Class + 0x9A 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000039E5 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x4B5 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003EFD (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x1FD 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CD91 (DCS): SW + 0x3CD891 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CAEE (DCS): SW + 0x3CD5EE 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000082D429 (DCS): SW + 0x3EDF29 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ECB34 (DCS): SW + 0x3AD634 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007EDA04 (DCS): SW + 0x3AE504 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022791B2 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF521AE 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000BDA932 (DCS): SW + 0x79B432 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 2022-11-06 05:52:24.846 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created. dcs.log Edited November 6, 2022 by Hiten Bongz
Flappie Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Please try this: Uninstall JF-17 module Reinstall JF-17 module ---
Hiten Bongz Posted November 9, 2022 Author Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) I uninstalled and reinstalled the JF-17 module and the crashes still occur. Here's the latest crash from tonight, looks like the same suspicious lines in the log file as always...track file attached as well. It is fairly short. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0B_lKRKP3oDULoKsw6i5zbVO4qp7YKC/view?usp=share_link In this one I was again trying to evade an AIM-120, it was fired by an F-16, and I was dumping chaff with nose towards the ground. The F-16 died by my own missile (SD-10) before his hit me. 2022-11-09 11:18:48.241 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 64.2ms 2022-11-09 11:19:18.252 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 65.1ms 2022-11-09 11:19:48.264 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.0ms 2022-11-09 11:20:18.274 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.7ms 2022-11-09 11:20:48.279 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 63.7ms 2022-11-09 11:21:07.372 ERROR APP (Main): Error: Unit [F-15C]: Corrupt damage model. 2022-11-09 11:21:18.287 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 65.6ms 2022-11-09 11:21:48.298 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 64.1ms 2022-11-09 11:22:18.311 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 63.7ms 2022-11-09 11:22:48.324 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.0ms 2022-11-09 11:22:59.158 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000 2022-11-09 11:22:59.158 INFO Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API 2022-11-09 11:23:18.326 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.6ms 2022-11-09 11:23:43.430 INFO EDCORE (Main): signal caught: 'Abnormal termination' 2022-11-09 11:23:43.430 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2022-11-09 11:23:43.431 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20221109-112344 -------------- 2022-11-09 11:23:43.432 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.0.32235 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19044) 2022-11-09 11:23:43.432 INFO EDCORE (Main): C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll 2022-11-09 11:23:43.433 INFO EDCORE (Main): # 00000000 STATUS_SUCCESS at 1DEECD29 00:00000000 2022-11-09 11:23:43.434 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Hiten' 2022-11-09 11:23:43.434 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19044 () 0x100-0x1 2022-11-09 11:23:43.736 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000002CD29 (KERNELBASE): RaiseException + 0x69 2022-11-09 11:23:43.737 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006876 (edCore): ed::core::InitVFS::~InitVFS + 0x876 2022-11-09 11:23:43.737 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000071881 (ucrtbase): raise + 0x1E1 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000072851 (ucrtbase): abort + 0x31 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006E4A (VCRUNTIME140): _purecall + 0x1A 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000020142A (WeaponBlocks): wRadarSensorBase::calcTargetSignal + 0x29A 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001FED30 (WeaponBlocks): wSN_ARA::simulate + 0x210 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001BB75 (blocksim): wSimulationSystem::simulate + 0x1D5 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000624FD (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::simulate + 0x13D 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000136C0C (Weapons): wAmmunitionDecoy::spawnSnare + 0x7DC 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000013E1D8 (Weapons): wAmmunitionSelfHoming::simulate + 0x158 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005F28A (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::Class + 0x9A 2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000039E5 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x4B5 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003EFD (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x1FD 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CD91 (DCS): SW + 0x3CD891 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CAEE (DCS): SW + 0x3CD5EE 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000082D429 (DCS): SW + 0x3EDF29 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ECB34 (DCS): SW + 0x3AD634 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007EDA04 (DCS): SW + 0x3AE504 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022791B2 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF521AE 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000BDA932 (DCS): SW + 0x79B432 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 2022-11-09 11:23:43.975 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created. dcs.log Edited November 9, 2022 by Hiten Bongz 1
uboats Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 Neither ED nor us can reproduce it [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
Flappie Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) @Hiten Bongz Our issue here is that we're missing a track, track which we cannot have since the sim cannot record a track when a DCS crash happens. But there might be a solution: Try to reproduce the conditions of the crash in a small, short mission. Do exactly the same things that you do to get the crash. Once the enemy aircraft shoots a missile at you, start avoiding and releasing chaffs like you always do. Then exit the mission seconds before the enemy missile hits you, and click Save Track. Replay track, wait for the missile to be close (=end of the track is nearing), press Escape, and click "Take control". Wait for the missile to hit you. If DCS crashes, that means you have produced a usable track. Attach it here and we'll try to reproduce the CTD. Edited November 10, 2022 by Flappie ---
Hiten Bongz Posted November 11, 2022 Author Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) I'm not understanding. I have already uploaded a short track file to my google drive and provided the link. How are you "missing a track?" I can watch this track file in replay on my PC, are you not able to? Maybe there is a language barrier here but I don't understand what the issue is with the track I provided. 8 hours ago, uboats said: Neither ED nor us can reproduce it Does your testing include getting hit by missiles (especially AIM-120) on a populated multiplayer server? If you are trying this offline, in custom mission etc., then all bets are off because testing environment isn't the same. If that is the case then I urge you to try it an online server...Growling Sidewinder is where I usually play. Edited November 11, 2022 by Hiten Bongz
uboats Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 we tried in MP, and getting hit when guiding sd10, cannot reproduce crash [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
Hiten Bongz Posted November 11, 2022 Author Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) I made a small custom mission where I'm going head-on versus an AI F-16 with AIM-120 and I let him shoot at me. I try to evade like usual, and I cannot make it crash with this mission. But on GS server I get the crash quite often at least 25% of the time I get hit, maybe as much as 50%. @uboats @Flappie what happens when you watch my track file? Because even the track replay crashes DCS at the end when I get hit by the AIM-120 for me. Same for you? Did either of you test on the GS server? There's been others that have reported this bug in JF-17 forum, and I know they fly on GS too. Possible server problem? Edited November 11, 2022 by Hiten Bongz
Flappie Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hiten Bongz said: I'm not understanding. I have already uploaded a short track file to my google drive and provided the link. How are you "missing a track?" My mistake, I'll try it right away. EDIT: Unfortunately, your track is not replaying well. The take off ends in the grass... I'll edit the mission so you start in the air, facing the enemy. Edited November 11, 2022 by Flappie ---
Flappie Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 Here's the edited mission file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PXSLXEm0MtKEkkMs0m5_4Kaav5n9ZxiL/view?usp=sharing Please run it from the mission editor, and jump into the red JF-17 slot (there's only one). You'll be facing an AI F-16. See if you can reproduce the crash. ---
Hiten Bongz Posted November 11, 2022 Author Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Flappie said: EDIT: Unfortunately, your track is not replaying well. The take off ends in the grass... This track? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0B_lKRKP3oDULoKsw6i5zbVO4qp7YKC/view?usp=share_link It's 30mb, much shorter than the first one I linked in this thread. If so that is very strange, I can replay it just fine and it plays back as normal...lol I will try your edited mission file, but it sounds just like the one I created in the mission editor last night Edited November 11, 2022 by Hiten Bongz
Flappie Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Hiten Bongz said: If so that is very strange, I can replay it just fine and it plays back as normal...lol Maybe not so strange. I use a different build. ---
Hiten Bongz Posted November 12, 2022 Author Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Flappie said: Maybe not so strange. I use a different build. Are you able to test using the current OB build? I gave that 30mb track file (from Nov. 9 I posted here) to a server admin from Growling Sidewinder, and he can view it okay. Also crashes his DCS when the missile hits... Edited November 12, 2022 by Hiten Bongz
Flappie Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 I couldn't yesterday because I had reverted my OB build to Release, in order to compare 2.7 and 2.8 performance. I'm back on curent OB, I will try it today. ---
Flappie Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 OK, crash reproduced with current OB. I made a movie clip. I'll show it to devs. ---
Flappie Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) The problem here is that the track won't replay correctly in ED internal bild, which means devs won't be able to reproducethe crash. But I'm pretty sure it will work if your aircraft starts in the air. I'll see what I can do with the movie clip showing the crash, but in the meantime, if you could reproduce the crash using my mission aboe, that would probably speed things up. Edited November 12, 2022 by Flappie ---
Hiten Bongz Posted November 12, 2022 Author Posted November 12, 2022 I will work on that this weekend. Thanks for your help so far!!
Flappie Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Hi @Hiten Bongz. Have you been able to create another track starting in the air and showing the crash? ---
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 13, 2022 ED Team Posted December 13, 2022 I have marked investigating for now, if anyone has a track to share or a crash zip please do. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
DropBear64 Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 I am also having crashes as are my teammates. Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce as it is intermittent. Game seems to crash when we switch from cockpit to map or external view to either map or cockpit. We all have different builds though mine is probably the newest. I fly the Jeff and F16 and it happens in both aircraft. I just saw this post and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth. If I can reproduce, I'll post here. However, we don't get an error message it just freezes. Only started since last patch and since it's happening to 4 ppl i fly with it can't just be a co-incidence.
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