oyen20 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Hi, I've been having issue with the CM802AK not loacking and tracking ships and instead flying past them. I'm using DIR with a ship locked in SEA1 or SEA2Tacview-20221104-233723-DCS.zip.acmi Tacview-20221104-233025-DCS.zip.acmi Edited November 4, 2022 by oyen20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uboats Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 3:43 PM, oyen20 said: Hi, I've been having issue with the CM802AK not loacking and tracking ships and instead flying past them. I'm using DIR with a ship locked in SEA1 or SEA2Tacview-20221104-233723-DCS.zip.acmi Tacview-20221104-233025-DCS.zip.acmi 437.83 kB · 4 downloads you can make a test miz, and place small/medium/large ships, and compare the echo sizes. you need to set target size properly to match the echo size [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pavelheer Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Did you set correct target size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyen20 Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 16 hours ago, uboats said: you can make a test miz, and place small/medium/large ships, and compare the echo sizes. you need to set target size properly to match the echo size Hi, I was indeed doing that to practice for squadron anti-ship missions. I've been having the issue that the missile misses the target on different size of ship and target size of the missile. The issue seemed to happen more with pop-up mode and with TGT in large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pavelheer Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Take a look at this, maybe it will helpship rcs and 802ak target size setting.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uboats Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, oyen20 said: Hi, I was indeed doing that to practice for squadron anti-ship missions. I've been having the issue that the missile misses the target on different size of ship and target size of the missile. The issue seemed to happen more with pop-up mode and with TGT in large. it's better to share trk, acmi is useless for debug 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfblitzer Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I wasn't able to get it to work in single player, but it worked in multiplayer, if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG54_NF2 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2022/11/5 AM6点43分,oyen20说: Hi, I've been having issue with the CM802AK not loacking and tracking ships and instead flying past them. I'm using DIR with a ship locked in SEA1 or SEA2Tacview-20221104-233723-DCS.zip.acmi Tacview-20221104-233025-DCS.zip.acmi 437.83KB · 9次下载 I restored your environment in OB ver & Test ver, but still can't reproduce this situation. Do you have more detailed information or TRK? I want to check your SMS configuration. Tacview-20230121-022325-DCS.zip.acmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyen20 Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 Hey, this test was done 3 months ago so i won't be able to be sure to identify them but i have those two tracks which are from the same months. I'll test this this weekend either way and tell you if i can reproduce it again (and send you a track) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNfrites Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Is this list of target sizes still correct? I’ve been trying to hit Ivanov with target size setting set to medium but each missile just flys past the ships. edit: switched to small target setting and hit ivanov cargo ships. Edited February 21, 2023 by BeerNfrites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riojano Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 little off topic, but, when fly altittude of 802ak will be the real one? ingame fly at 50m in "low" (must be 20m), and in terminal fly at 15m (must be 5m). https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/thailand-flexes-anti-ship-missile-capabilities-in-andaman-sea-with-c-802a-firing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riojax Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) @uboatsabout the @Riojanoissue, must it be reported to deka or ED? Edited May 23, 2023 by riojax typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 That would mean that on „low“ it’s not possible anymore for the AI to intercept the C802AK with missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napillo Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 5:48 AM, BigBorner said: on „low“ it’s not possible anymore for the AI to intercept the C802AK that's why they have it fly low, so that it'll be difficult to spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 vor 6 Stunden schrieb Napillo: that's why they have it fly low, so that it'll be difficult to spot... Yes, but no. I meant in the context of DCS it will become impossible to intercept the missile as no AA would be abled to track it below 10m, and the C802AK will become a wonder-weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napillo Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 8 hours ago, BigBorner said: will become a wonder-weapon Rb-04E already is for the viggen, it does 50% damage no matter what, so having the 802AK hit when people tell it to fly low seems fine to me. Also, you should protect your carriers with some other ships. They never go at it alone (unlike those poorly written missions in DCS). Plus it doesn't do nearly enough damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 vor 18 Stunden schrieb Napillo: Rb-04E already is for the viggen, it does 50% damage no matter what, so having the 802AK hit when people tell it to fly low seems fine to me. Also, you should protect your carriers with some other ships. They never go at it alone (unlike those poorly written missions in DCS). Plus it doesn't do nearly enough damage. Yeah but protecting something with more ships won’t work in DCS, because then the 802AK cannot be shot down if below 10 meters. It’s a DCS limitation. Ive seen RB-04 being shot down, so they are not the „wonder-weapon“ the 802 would be if flying below 10m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcerf Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) @uboats I am having the same problem with CM-802AK. It does not track for my as well. I have been playing the JF-17 DCS campaign and the desert thunder campaign and both have a anti-ship mission. One uses DIR mode using SEA1 mode and the other mission requires COO mode with TP. I am attaching the Trk files for the COO mission both with TP enabled and disabled. In both cases the missile flies over the ship. I have played around with settings such as cruise altitude, TML settings. I also co-related the TGT size with the PDF above and nothing seems to work. Tacview-20230611-132127-DCS-JF17_C09.zip-NOTP.acmi dcs.log.old AG-802AK.trk AG-802AK-NoTP.trk Tacview-20230611-203515-DCS-JF17_C09.zip.acmi Edited June 12, 2023 by morcerf Tagging ED tester 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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