RTX 4080 & 7900 XTX/XT benchmarks DCS

[xoxen]

Hi there,

I´m interested in the performance of the RTX 4080 in DCS. I know it s price wise questionable and maybe the RTX 4090 is the better choice. But anyway, if anyone has anything to share I would be very happy.

Thanks,

Xoxen

Edited December 13, 2022 by xoxen

[AngleOff66]

Saw this over on reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/z0rrwu/rtx_3090_to_4080_results_in_dcs/

 

[xoxen]

Great, thanks. So there it is 14% more. Good to know. My expectation was slightly higher. I assume that the 3080 is appr. 30% lower than the 4080

[AngleOff66]

My 2 cents, at the current pricing of the 4080, I am not sure that it is all that great.  Factor in if you need a new PSU and does it fit in the PC case that you currently have?

I've read a number of theories re pricing on the 4080.

Price is high to help sell any remaining 3000 series cards.

Price could come down in 2023 depending on how well the new AMD GPUs do.

Me? I'd take a chance and wait to see what happens when the AMD test results come out.

[xoxen]

Your are so rigth in what you say. One thing I take into consideration is the fact, that I can still get some  money for my 3080. Lower prices for the 4080 in 2023 and the new AMD GPUs on the road equals less money for my 3080. So I can also think about selling it now and buy a 4080. The difference will be similar. But first of all I would like to get an idea about the benefit. 

[EightyDuce]

I wouldn't hold your breath for a big price drop, especially not any time soon. Considering where they priced the 12Gb before they axed it, I wouldn't expect them to get anywhere near that price or it makes them look worse than they currently are. 

It should have been a $900-1000 at the most, but they got greedy (plus Lovelace die is expensive to produce). Whether they will ever drop it down to that price, that's hard to tell but very unlikely, at least for the first year. 

Right now considering what you can get a 3090ti for, at least in the US, a 4080 is a really bad buy. If they 7900XTX performs as expected, then the 4080 would really be a hard sell, unless you really need the RT performance and DLSS 3...both irrelevant in DCS. 

As for power demands, honestly, from looking at the reviews it really doesn't seem bad at all and much lower than originally speculated. Lovelace seems to be fairly efficient at normal use conditions. 

Edited November 22, 2022 by EightyDuce

[72Stu]

@xoxenGet the 4080 idea right out of your head...you do not want one.

2 posters (and I make 3), in a 7 post thread, saying "don't go there", plus Gamers Nexus on youtube saying the same.....NO.

 

 

 

[xoxen]

I strongly believe the 4080 isn't a bad card at all, but totally overpriced. The reason for this thread was to build an own picture. 1500 Eur vs. 2200 Euro is the difference between 4080 and 4090. So both are highly overpriced. I guess I will wait snd see. I just bought a 49" display with 5120x1440 resolution to replace my 7680x1440 triple 27" setup. So I will have 1/3rd less pixels to calculate. This will bring me some additional frames.

[SkateZilla]

Hard to sell off RTX3080 cards when the Mining crash has the market littered with used ones for 60-75% off the running price, even if that were true, which it's not.
 

The Higher Price is because nVidia is refusing to eat the increased wafer cost caused by their pre-mature termination of their TSMC Contract, thought they'd do better on Samsung, realized it wasnt all the chicken and waffles Samsung promised, and came back to TSMC for RTX 40, TSMC hit them with an increased price to offset what they lost when nVidia terminated their contract without cause. Instead of nVidia Eating this cost like they should have, they passed it onto the consumer or the AIB Partners.

Ask yourselves what coulda have possibly drove eVGA a company that's been the mainstay in the AIB Department for decades to leave, 

The Per Chip Cost -> AIBs, eVGA would have to sell RTX4090s at 1.8-> 2K. and 1.4 to 1.6K for a RTX4080

[3WA]

Nvidia are being some really greedy bastards.  I'm waiting to take a look at AMD's new GPU on the 20th of next month.

[xoxen]

Whoever is interested in a direct comparison between the 3080 and the 4080. At 5120x1440 the difference in FPS is 35-40%. This is the result out of 5 different Missions I benched.

Thanks for all the advises, but I knew better It has 100 W less power consumption and is quite cool when running. This together with my new Samsung Odyssey G9 really rocks. Please be gracious with any comments, I bought it and I exactly knew what I did.

Edited November 30, 2022 by xoxen

[CybrSlydr]

With AMD's 7900XTX coming out on Monday, it looks like it could be a good buy for DCS.

If the 4080 is 35-40% faster than the 3080, and the XTX appears to be equalling the 4080 or within +/-5%, then the XTX should be a good buy.  Especially for VR.  I'd love to get another 25-35% performance in VR.

Now the big question is if you can actually get one when they launch.

[SkateZilla]

2 hours ago, CybrSlydr said:

With AMD's 7900XTX coming out on Monday, it looks like it could be a good buy for DCS.

If the 4080 is 35-40% faster than the 3080, and the XTX appears to be equalling the 4080 or within +/-5%, then the XTX should be a good buy.  Especially for VR.  I'd love to get another 25-35% performance in VR.

Now the big question is if you can actually get one when they launch.

The XT is beating the 4080, the XTX is Just under 4090 ~10%.

The ONLY place the RTX holds any advantage is in Raytracing Engines.

Edited December 10, 2022 by SkateZilla

[Johnny Dioxin]

The XTX is the right price - comparitively speaking and as far as it can be in this crazy day and age - but I haven't used red cards since the HD4870 (which I still have and use in my XP rig   ), so I'm a little wary.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Johnny Dioxin

[CybrSlydr]

40 minutes ago, SkateZilla said:

The XT is beating the 4080, the XTX is Just under 4090 ~10%.

The ONLY place the RTX holds any advantage is in Raytracing Engines.

 

That's not what VideoCardz says.

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-7900-xt-3dmark-timespy-firestrikes-scores-are-in

Their benchmarks show the XTX trading punches with the 4080, not the 4090.  

[AngleOff66]

i was was wondering how much of an improvement would we see in VR with the display port ?  Dont think there are any DP hmds are there?

The amd cards look to fit a number of cases.

Wendell makes a nice build in Fractal 7 mini

 

[CybrSlydr]

2 minutes ago, AngleOff66 said:

i was was wondering how much of an improvement would we see in VR with the display port ?  Dont think there are any DP hmds are there?

The amd cards look to fit a number of cases.

Wendell makes a nice build in Fractal 7 mini

 

The Reverb G2 is DP.

[Lt_Jaeger]

1 hour ago, SkateZilla said:

The XT is beating the 4080, the XTX is Just under 4090 ~10%.

The ONLY place the RTX holds any advantage is in Raytracing Engines.

 

That would be great indeed. I might then see if I can get a xtx

[SkateZilla]

The 7900's use the USBC / MiniDP

17 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said:

That's not what VideoCardz says.

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-7900-xt-3dmark-timespy-firestrikes-scores-are-in

Their benchmarks show the XTX trading punches with the 4080, not the 4090.  

Those were the same numbers reported last week, and it caused a stir because they had the 7900XTX Below the 4080 as well, and just a little above the 6950XT, turns out they were not using the correct Drivers.

18 minutes ago, AngleOff66 said:

i was was wondering how much of an improvement would we see in VR with the display port ?  Dont think there are any DP hmds are there?

The amd cards look to fit a number of cases.

Wendell makes a nice build in Fractal 7 mini

 

The USBC is also DP2.1 ALTMODE Compatible via Adapter.

[EightyDuce]

48 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said:

That's not what VideoCardz says.

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-7900-xt-3dmark-timespy-firestrikes-scores-are-in

Their benchmarks show the XTX trading punches with the 4080, not the 4090.  

VideoCardz accuracy of reporting is 50:50 on the best of days. 

 

Patiently waiting a reputable source. 

[CybrSlydr]

Certainly making me feel better that these results aren't good.  

If I can find one on Launch Day, I might get one.

[kiss4luna]

anyone gets the new R9 7900XTX?

[Johnny Dioxin]

When I looked on OverclockersUK under their "7900XTX" heading all I saw was a tube of Arctic Silver TIM

 

edit: I know they are not due for release until 13th, but was hoping to get a price indication - mind you, it's hard enough to do that on OCuk at the best of times (they are worried their competitors will undercut them so you often have to phone to get a price - wonder how many actually do that)

Edited December 11, 2022 by Johnny Dioxin

[xoxen]

I tried the RX 6800 XT last year on my 3 screen setup (coming from a 1080 TI) and was really, really disappointed (<10% more FPS). It seems the RAM bandwidth was the cause for it to perform bad at resolutions at 4k and above. I had several conversations in this matter. Switching to a 3080 solved this problem for me (appr. 50% more FPS over the 1080Ti). So the red GPU side didn´t convince me at all, I need some time to be willing to even think about it again.

What I wonder the most is, my wife didn´t even say a word when I bought the 4080. Last year I had several discussions and spent less. Does she still love me or does she meet someone else when I´m flying? Who knows.

Edit: I guess if the new AMD cards perform well, the Scalpers will make us the life hard again. It took me half of a year to put hands on the RX 6800 XT for a reasonable price.

Edited December 12, 2022 by xoxen

[Lurker]

I wonder how the XTX will compare to the 3090RTX. Which I still rock, and which I quite like because of the large memory size and card bandwidth. If it's significantly faster it might be worth an upgrade, but if it's not I think I'm going to wait for at least another generation of cards to come round the bend.