skywalker22 Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 7:22 PM, Knock-Knock said: 7900XTX VR performance, vs 4090 and 4080, with 3080Ti and 6900 in for a summary. https://babeltechreviews.com/hellhound-rx-7900-xtx-vs-rtx-4080-50-games-vr/5/ Based on this, I doubt 7900 XTX will be ever better of 3080Ti or 3090 (without Ti), and not even in VR These results really are a disappointing. No wonder why is that cheap 2
xoxen Posted December 14, 2022 Author Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Th3ChosenOn3 said: I'll most likely be receiving my XFX RX 7900 XTX tomorrow and plan to try DCS. Don't really have comparable numbers to current gen offerings, as I'm currently GPU bound with GTX 1080 8GB. I'm playing on a monitor (3440x1440), so won't be able to give VR numbers. Are there specific missions/tracks that are used for benchmarks? You can use one of the standard missions, switch off Track IR and simply compare your actual card with the new card FPS wise. This gives everybody a good impression on the gain over the 1080 you have. Edited December 14, 2022 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
Th3ChosenOn3 Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, xoxen said: You can use one of the standard missions, switch off Track IR and simply compare your actual card with the new card FPS wise. This gives everybody a good impression on the gain over the 1080 you have. I ran Plazma's test recommended by @Andrei with my GTX1080 to use for comparison tomorrow or whenever I get my card. Not sure if there's any other statistics I need to add, or if there's another mission to test while I have the 1080 in my system. 4 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASRock X670E Steel Legend | 64GB (2x32GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-6000MHz CL32 | XFX RX 7900 XTX Merc 310 24GB GDDR6 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe | Corsair HX1000i 1000W 80+ Platinum (2022) | Meta Quest 3 512GB | Dell S3422DWG 34" 144Hz UWQHD (3440x1440) | VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base & Grip with 200mm VPC Flightstick Extension | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | VPC ACE Collection Rudder Pedals | VPC Control Panel #2 & VPC SharKa-50 Control Panel
skywalker22 Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Th3ChosenOn3 said: I ran Plazma's test recommended by @Andrei with my GTX1080 to use for comparison tomorrow or whenever I get my card. Not sure if there's any other statistics I need to add, or if there's another mission to test while I have the 1080 in my system. Just make sure you will run on same graphics details with new GC when you will perform a comparative test. I would say there will be quite a big difference, especially since you don't have the Ti version of 1080. I used to have the 1080Ti (from MSI), and then I got 3080Ti (from EVGA, the best one), and I was quite surprosed there was no huge difference between these two cards.
xoxen Posted December 15, 2022 Author Posted December 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, skywalker22 said: ......I used to have the 1080Ti (from MSI), and then I got 3080Ti (from EVGA, the best one), and I was quite surprosed there was no huge difference between these two cards. This totally wonders me, as I saw a difference between the 1080Ti and the 3080 of about 50%. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
SneakyBastd Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 Yeah I don't get it either. Are they using VR??? When I went from 1080Ti to 3080 it was a huge jump. 7700K@5Ghz, 32GB 3600 CL16, 3080.
skywalker22 Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 47 minutes ago, xoxen said: This totally wonders me, as I saw a difference between the 1080Ti and the 3080 of about 50%. Not in DCS, but not saying in VR (VR is another story). In simple 1K resolution. Didn't do any actual comparision tests, but fps wise, it was like 20-30% - I also expected 50, but this wasn't the case.
Andrei Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Th3ChosenOn3 said: I ran Plazma's test recommended by @Andrei with my GTX1080 to use for comparison tomorrow or whenever I get my card. I'd expect some improvement. But I feel that you might be getting CPU-bound indeed. To make this a bit more fair as someone else mentioned, do another benchmarking run on an empty map. That will give you another validation point, on how much you gain purely in terms of graphics performance. On the same settings, you will gain some FPS, probably not by a huge margin. I'd guesstimate around <=30%. However, your new card will allow you to max out graphics settings while keeping the same framerate. More eyecandy, yay Edited December 15, 2022 by Andrei AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + STECS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | Pimax Crystal FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 | F-15E | F-4 | CH-47 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Afghanistan | Kola
Flаnker Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 Hello, friends. I also plan to change the video card. I have now 1070 + 8700k. I'm leaning more towards 4080. I only play DCS (single-player). I do not use a virtual reality helmet and a 4k monitor. What do you think is the risk of breakdown with the 12VHPWR connector on this card? Мои авиафото
Th3ChosenOn3 Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 36 minutes ago, Andrei said: I'd expect some improvement. But I feel that you might be getting CPU-bound indeed. To make this a bit more fair as someone else mentioned, do another benchmarking run on an empty map. That will give you another validation point, on how much you gain purely in terms of graphics performance. On the same settings, you will gain some FPS, probably not by a huge margin. I'd guesstimate around <=30%. However, your new card will allow you to max out graphics settings while keeping the same framerate. More eyecandy, yay Yep, I was thinking of running the F/A-18C Free Flight Instant Action Mission on Syria as a empty map test, as well as another mission flying at high altitude and a ground test when I get some time today. I've got the 1440p settings saved as a preset to use for benchmarking, but I also want to use my "optimized" game settings for my native resolution of 3440x1440p. 2560x1440p settings from the video (Same settings as shown on Plazma's video): AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASRock X670E Steel Legend | 64GB (2x32GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-6000MHz CL32 | XFX RX 7900 XTX Merc 310 24GB GDDR6 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe | Corsair HX1000i 1000W 80+ Platinum (2022) | Meta Quest 3 512GB | Dell S3422DWG 34" 144Hz UWQHD (3440x1440) | VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base & Grip with 200mm VPC Flightstick Extension | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | VPC ACE Collection Rudder Pedals | VPC Control Panel #2 & VPC SharKa-50 Control Panel
xoxen Posted December 15, 2022 Author Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Flаnker said: Hello, friends. I also plan to change the video card. I have now 1070 + 8700k. I'm leaning more towards 4080. I only play DCS (single-player). I do not use a virtual reality helmet and a 4k monitor. What do you think is the risk of breakdown with the 12VHPWR connector on this card? I haven´t heard issues about the 12VHPWR connector in combination with the 4080 so far. My Asus card has an 3x 8pin on 12VHPWR adapter included and I did not see any issues. What I have seen it is good not to bend the cable that much at the new connoctor itself. I wonder if the 8700k is strong enough for the 4080. On the 4YA Syria server I saw the GPU not at 100% which might be an indication that I was CPU bound with a lot of units included. Edited December 15, 2022 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
Flаnker Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 39 минут назад, xoxen сказал: I haven´t heard issues about the 12VHPWR connector in combination with the 4080 so far. My Asus card has an 3x 8pin on 12VHPWR adapter included and I did not see any issues. What I have seen it is good not to bend the cable that much at the new connoctor itself. I am concerned about the heating of the central core of the cable and the circuitry of the card. 39 минут назад, xoxen сказал: I wonder if the 8700k is strong enough for the 4080. On the 4YA Syria server I saw the GPU not at 100% which might be an indication that I was CPU bound with a lot of units included. I don't usually play high load missions. Upgrade the whole PC - too expensive now (for 4080 I will have to buy a new case and power supply) Мои авиафото
frachy Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 13小时前,Th3ChosenOn3说: I'll most likely be receiving my XFX RX 7900 XTX tomorrow and plan to try DCS. Don't really have comparable numbers to current gen offerings, as I'm currently GPU bound with GTX 1080 8GB. I'm playing on a monitor (3440x1440), so won't be able to give VR numbers. Are there specific missions/tracks that are used for benchmarks? Can you have a test of the DCS Default "AH 64D, Instant action, runway start" and "F16C, Instant action, Take off" with DCS Default "High" Image quality settings? So I can compare to my 3080 12G.
xoxen Posted December 15, 2022 Author Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Flаnker said: I am concerned about the heating of the central core of the cable and the circuitry of the card. I don't usually play high load missions. Upgrade the whole PC - too expensive now (for 4080 I will have to buy a new case and power supply) I´m running the 4080 with a 600W PSU, which is not recommended, but works without issues. I checked the overall consumption of my system at the main plug and never comes ober 500 W in total. Edit: On my yesterdays weekly flight in my squadron the card ran with 100% load, appr. 250 W consumption and 55°C temperature. Edited December 15, 2022 by xoxen 1 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
Lurker Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Flаnker said: Hello, friends. I also plan to change the video card. I have now 1070 + 8700k. I'm leaning more towards 4080. I only play DCS (single-player). I do not use a virtual reality helmet and a 4k monitor. What do you think is the risk of breakdown with the 12VHPWR connector on this card? None at all, as long as you make sure that you seat the cable properly: Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick.
Andrei Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 36 minutes ago, xoxen said: I´m running the 4080 with a 600W PSU, which is not recommended, but works without issues. I checked the overall consumption of my system at the main plug and never comes ober 500 W in total. Good to know! I'm sitting on Corsair 650W and having read the reviews thought that it might be just enough. Still, decided to upgrade to 850W to make it a bit more future proof. I have multiple PCs anyway and it's good to have a PSU in reserve AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + STECS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | Pimax Crystal FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 | F-15E | F-4 | CH-47 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Afghanistan | Kola
Th3ChosenOn3 Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, frachy said: Can you have a test of the DCS Default "AH 64D, Instant action, runway start" and "F16C, Instant action, Take off" with DCS Default "High" Image quality settings? So I can compare to my 3080 12G. I'll give the AH-64 one a go when I get my card. Don't have the F-16 unfortunately, so can't test that one. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASRock X670E Steel Legend | 64GB (2x32GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-6000MHz CL32 | XFX RX 7900 XTX Merc 310 24GB GDDR6 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe | Corsair HX1000i 1000W 80+ Platinum (2022) | Meta Quest 3 512GB | Dell S3422DWG 34" 144Hz UWQHD (3440x1440) | VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base & Grip with 200mm VPC Flightstick Extension | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | VPC ACE Collection Rudder Pedals | VPC Control Panel #2 & VPC SharKa-50 Control Panel
frachy Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 1分钟前,Th3ChosenOn3说: I'll give the AH-64 one a go when I get my card. Don't have the F-16 unfortunately, so can't test that one. Thank you, AH-64 is enough.
xoxen Posted December 15, 2022 Author Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Andrei said: Good to know! I'm sitting on Corsair 650W and having read the reviews thought that it might be just enough. Still, decided to upgrade to 850W to make it a bit more future proof. I have multiple PCs anyway and it's good to have a PSU in reserve I will also upgrade the PSU over time, but since 1 year I ran a 3080 and now the 4080 without a problem. So no pressure on this. In the meantime my 2 boys have old PCs from me and one of them wants to upgrade his. He could need a PSU and gives me a good argument to buy a new one for me and give mine to him. But as mentioned, no pressure so far. Edited December 15, 2022 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
SkateZilla Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Lurker said: None at all, as long as you make sure that you seat the cable properly: The issue is, You can seat them correctly, but the clipping mechanism on them don't always hold them in. Especially with side to side torque is applied. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
shastasm Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 Pulled the trigger on the 4080 at MSRP once I couldn't get a 7900xtx on launch. Hardware Unboxed review sold me, plus I'm delving into content creation and my 6900 is a little rough for the encoding. 1 2020 Rig Chasse: bequiet! Darkbase 700 MBoard: Asus b550-F Gaming CPU: Ryzen 9 3900XT DIMM: HyperZ 3200 64 GB (16x4) GPU: Asus Strix 2070 - 8GB Storage: 2x Samsung EVO 1TB m.2 (1 dedicated for DCS) OS: Windows 10
Th3ChosenOn3 Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 Got my card today. Going to take a few hours to get everything setup, so I'll probably post benchmarks tomorrow. 6 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASRock X670E Steel Legend | 64GB (2x32GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-6000MHz CL32 | XFX RX 7900 XTX Merc 310 24GB GDDR6 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe | Corsair HX1000i 1000W 80+ Platinum (2022) | Meta Quest 3 512GB | Dell S3422DWG 34" 144Hz UWQHD (3440x1440) | VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base & Grip with 200mm VPC Flightstick Extension | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | VPC ACE Collection Rudder Pedals | VPC Control Panel #2 & VPC SharKa-50 Control Panel
AirWolf D Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 Heya, wow, I've my eye on this card too, I'm curious about the test! CU you in the * AIR * ^AirWolf PC > BE QUIIET Power 1000 W ATX 3.0 * ROG STRIX Z690-F * i7-12700 KF * DDR5-6000 64 GB * M.2 980 EVO PRO 2 TB * RX 7900 XTX 24 MB XFX MERC 310 BLACK EDITION *
Voyager Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 10 hours ago, skywalker22 said: Not in DCS, but not saying in VR (VR is another story). In simple 1K resolution. Didn't do any actual comparision tests, but fps wise, it was like 20-30% - I also expected 50, but this wasn't the case. Yeah, if you're talking 1080p, you are pretty much CPU limited. Even 5120*1440p is still 60fps+ on a 1080 Ti even at high settings. VR is literally the only reason I upgraded from a 1080 Ti.
HansPeter1981 Posted December 15, 2022 Posted December 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, Th3ChosenOn3 said: Got my card today. Going to take a few hours to get everything setup, so I'll probably post benchmarks tomorrow. There is a chance you are the first one running DCS with the 7900XTX. No pressure . AMD graphic card owners in the DCS community will be pressing the refresh Button all day... to wait for your feedback... 1 My System specs: Cpu 5800x3d liquid cooled GPU 7900XTX Ram 64GB 3600mhz cl16 Motherboard B550M MSI, Windows 10 PRO on NVMe Drive, DCS on its own SSD, Monitor Philips 32" 4k curved adaptive Sync framerate capped at 59fps, Trackir 5, VKB
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