Mission 1, no contact after landing, mission fail

[CH4Pz]

Just got through M01, done the break, paco was still explaining the downwind as i turned final, i landed and got no more talking, mission didnt score. i DID turn off the midway exit as i had stopped in time, so not sure if the next triggers at end of runway? once i got to parking, i ended up taxiing back to the very end runway to try get trigger but nothing happened (didnt go full length of runway, just piano keys)

[Reflected]

If Paco was still explaining the downwind as you turned final you surely didn't follow the procedures explained by Paco.

Make sure you break over the middle of the runway (or later), and break right.

Then set up for the landing as briefed, wait for the abeam call, then turn on final.

[Reflected]

Quoting Paco:

 

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Let’s set up for the initial on runway 21 right, 2700 feet, 350 knots, right hand break. On downwind we’ll go down to 2500 feet..

Halfway down the runway, break right and pop the speed brakes. As the speed decels below 300, move the wings switch to auto. Drop the gear at 250, and the flaps and DLC at 220. 

Now descend to 2500 feet and fly downwind parallel to the runway.

Alright, once you're abeam, begin a 27 degree angle of bank turn for runway 21 right.   Stay on speed with pitch and trim, and maintain the descent rate using the throttles.  200-300 fpm until the 90, then increase to 700 fpm as you roll wings level.  Lineup , and AOA all the way to touchdown.  Don’t flare it, it's an air force base, but we’re not.  

 

 

If you follow this, the mission will work.

[CH4Pz]

5 minutes ago, Reflected said:

If Paco was still explaining the downwind as you turned final you surely didn't follow the procedures explained by Paco.

Make sure you break over the middle of the runway (or later), and break right.

Then set up for the landing as briefed, wait for the abeam call, then turn on final.

Well he told me to break halfway down the runway, so i did, i will admit wasnt the best onspeed landing, was more of a flare, but all the above dialogue played before i touched down though, nvm, will try again later, cheers

[clamzoni_of_ri]

I also didn't have the mission complete. PACO got as far as being directed to contact ground, and I was directed to clear the runway via bravo. I did so but no dice. Tried taxiing back on the runway and then off again via bravo. Nothing. Painful. 

[Gretsch_Man]

1 hour ago, clamzoni_of_ri said:

I also didn't have the mission complete. PACO got as far as being directed to contact ground, and I was directed to clear the runway via bravo. I did so but no dice. Tried taxiing back on the runway and then off again via bravo. Nothing. Painful. 

After clearing the runway via bravo, you have to first turn left, then taxi all the way back to the parking position from where the mission started. At least that's what worked for me. 

[Dentedend10]

Mission worked for me as intended. I did a full stop after clearing the active runway before taxiing to Foxtrot, so Paco had some time to contact ground, not sure if that makes a difference

[Reflected]

2 hours ago, CH4Pz said:

Well he told me to break halfway down the runway, so i did, i will admit wasnt the best onspeed landing, was more of a flare, but all the above dialogue played before i touched down though, nvm, will try again later, cheers

All of the above played? Out of curiosity, how fast were you rolling when crossing the 'turntobravo' zone? See screenshot below. In the most recent version, DCS is REALLY slow in detecting a player in zone, maybe you rolled through it too fast?

Did you also hear his instructions about holding the stick back after touchdown?

EDIT: I tested the mission again and it worked. The only thing I can imagine is that when entering the trigger zone you were still pretty fast, so you either landed a bit long or didn't hold the stick back to slow down. By the time I reach that zone I'm at taxi speed.

2 hours ago, clamzoni_of_ri said:

I also didn't have the mission complete. PACO got as far as being directed to contact ground, and I was directed to clear the runway via bravo. I did so but no dice. Tried taxiing back on the runway and then off again via bravo. Nothing. Painful. 

you need to turn right on bravo, as directed. Then Paco will contact ground.

When in zone 'turntobravo' Paco says "OK, turn off the runway to the right onto taxiway Bravo."

Edited January 28, 2023 by Reflected

[Reflected]

Here's a video of an earlier WIP version of the mission, this is how it should play out (minus the burst tire)
 

 

[clamzoni_of_ri]

7 hours ago, Reflected said:

All of the above played? Out of curiosity, how fast were you rolling when crossing the 'turntobravo' zone? See screenshot below. In the most recent version, DCS is REALLY slow in detecting a player in zone, maybe you rolled through it too fast?

Did you also hear his instructions about holding the stick back after touchdown?

EDIT: I tested the mission again and it worked. The only thing I can imagine is that when entering the trigger zone you were still pretty fast, so you either landed a bit long or didn't hold the stick back to slow down. By the time I reach that zone I'm at taxi speed.

you need to turn right on bravo, as directed. Then Paco will contact ground.

When in zone 'turntobravo' Paco says "OK, turn off the runway to the right onto taxiway Bravo."

 

Thanks for the reply. I love your work.

 

yes I did taxi onto Bravo from the active, right hand turn. For whatever reason I never heard an audio. Maybe if I had made my way down to where we started it would have worked. Maybe it’s because my wings weren’t overswept and my flaps weren’t up yet…seems like it should have worked. Perhaps it was a speed thing. This is a training campaign so I’m not too put out, just bummed to not get my score. Will get it right the…fourth time.

Edited January 28, 2023 by clamzoni_of_ri

[CH4Pz]

23 hours ago, Reflected said:

All of the above played? Out of curiosity, how fast were you rolling when crossing the 'turntobravo' zone? See screenshot below. In the most recent version, DCS is REALLY slow in detecting a player in zone, maybe you rolled through it too fast?

Did you also hear his instructions about holding the stick back after touchdown?

EDIT: I tested the mission again and it worked. The only thing I can imagine is that when entering the trigger zone you were still pretty fast, so you either landed a bit long or didn't hold the stick back to slow down. By the time I reach that zone I'm at taxi speed.

you need to turn right on bravo, as directed. Then Paco will contact ground.

When in zone 'turntobravo' Paco says "OK, turn off the runway to the right onto taxiway Bravo."

 

Not sure of my speed exactly but i made the corner quite easily, at typical taxi speed, but the last thing i heard was paco saying it was an airforce base, and were not. i havent had a chance to try again, wasnt my best landing, as i think i had 1600 pounds on the break, so thats probably why... when you said in the promos that theres nothing else like this in DCS you werent kidding, this is mission 1 ffs

Edited January 29, 2023 by CH4Pz

[Reflected]

Just to be sure you landed on 21R and turned right, right? I see no reason why the trigger shouldn’t fire

[CH4Pz]

31 minutes ago, Reflected said:

Just to be sure you landed on 21R and turned right, right? I see no reason why the trigger shouldn’t fire

Correct

[Reflected]

My only guess is that dcs lately has been having latency issues, forgetting to fire triggers when the cpu is busy. Maybe it’s one of those cases. 

[Jayhawk1971]

Am 29.1.2023 um 07:59 schrieb Reflected:

My only guess is that dcs lately has been having latency issues, forgetting to fire triggers when the cpu is busy. Maybe it’s one of those cases. 

Maybe (hopefully) the planned switch to multithreading/ multicore will help with that.

[tsgucci]

I hade the same case. Paco was supposed to contact ground but never did. To be fair I messed up the landing, after the first touch somehow I lifted up again, did a "second" landing and overrun Bravo. First exited on alpha, went back to Bravo twice but no joy. Taxied to original spot, also no joy. I had to exit.

Edited March 21, 2023 by tsgucci

[Reflected]

2 hours ago, tsgucci said:

I hade the same case. Paco was supposed to contact ground but never did. To be fair I messed up the landing, after the first touch somehow I lifted up again, did a "second" landing and overrun Bravo. First exited on alpha, went back to Bravo twice but no joy. Taxied to original spot, also no joy. I had to exit.

 

Well, yeah…less complex missions would be more forgiving and flexible but here you have Paco’s instructions, custom atc, all this need to happen after touchdown but before the taxiway, and they need to be deconflicted, etc…

the more stuff like that you have, the less you are allowed to mess up. That’s just the nature of things. Btw I think you can work around it by taxiing back on the runway, past bravo a few hundred meters and then turn around and exit.