rapid Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Hi Guys, I am spoilt for choice between the Simshaker Jet seat and the HF8 HAPTIC. From what I have read so far is that the HF8 has a slight delay in feed back response. Which one would you choose and Why. 1 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
rapid Posted March 4, 2023 Author Posted March 4, 2023 Anyone have any thoughts? Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted March 5, 2023 Posted March 5, 2023 Im guessing if you are based on the USA or outside Europe, HF8 seat should be easier to buy with the ongoin Rus-Ukr situation. From what I read, both can work with SSA software, so no issues there. No idea about the delay, HF8 is a recent device meanwhile Jetseat has been out for several years already. You could also check your seat measurements in order to check which one of the could fit it better. My advice would be don´t waste much time choosing, both seem great products. I own a Jetseat and don´t fly without it. So whatever you choose, go ahead and keep enjoying the sim 1 i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
rapid Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) Appreciate your valued input. So still a toss up between the HF8 and the U shaker6 Rapid Edited March 6, 2023 by rapid Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Tehrawk Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 UShake6 is best. But also more expensive. https://www.simracingstudio.com/product-page/srs-ushake6-includes-srs-license-for-bass-shaker It uses transducers, which have no delay and better feedback. The other two use a rumble technique similar to joypads. 1
rapid Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 Yes that's what I have been reading but I guess price is the key here why people chose the HF8 over the U Shaker6. Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
zcaa0g Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 10:25 AM, Tehrawk said: UShake6 is best. But also more expensive. https://www.simracingstudio.com/product-page/srs-ushake6-includes-srs-license-for-bass-shaker It uses transducers, which have no delay and better feedback. The other two use a rumble technique similar to joypads. Have you actually used it and if so, is it making use of all of the telemetry in DCS and IL2? It seems more race sim focused based on the software options for the respective genres, so was curious.
Tehrawk Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) On 3/23/2023 at 10:23 PM, zcaa0g said: Have you actually used it and if so, is it making use of all of the telemetry in DCS and IL2? It seems more race sim focused based on the software options for the respective genres, so was curious. I havent. I just seen this video. After seeing this video, I am making my own version using external sound cards and transducers. It will be half the price of the UShake6, but it is not a plug and play solution. This video compares the UShake6 to the HF8. Basically says that it cant compare to a transducer system. I dont think any of them are ideal for flying yet. They definitely dont have the options available for racing sims. I will be using FlyPT Mover to control my transducers, and 80% of the options are for various car effects. But people say they still add to the immersion when flying. Edited March 24, 2023 by Tehrawk
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Anyway it´s great this niche market is blooming with options, it´s all good for customers. i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
rapid Posted March 25, 2023 Author Posted March 25, 2023 Seen those two reviews. They seem to be two good products I did not note what the reviewer said "This video compares the UShake6 to the HF8. Basically says that it cant compare to a transducer system" He said that the Transducers produce a more immediate effect rather than a delayed effect like the HF8 which uses spinning motors. Still undecided over 6 transducers or 8 motors. Pricing would point to the HF8 been the cheaper option. Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
motoadve Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 I have bass shakers, they work pretty good, only compliant is I don't get hits effects in any of the WWII planes, does this seat gives hit effects?
rapid Posted March 25, 2023 Author Posted March 25, 2023 5 hours ago, motoadve said: I have bass shakers, they work pretty good, only compliant is I don't get hits effects in any of the WWII planes, does this seat gives hit effects? isn't this down to the software been used? Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
motoadve Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, rapid said: isn't this down to the software been used? Yes I think you are right, and it uses SimShaker, correct?
rapid Posted March 25, 2023 Author Posted March 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, motoadve said: Yes I think you are right, and it uses SimShaker, correct? Yes I have read that people have been using SS without issues. Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
TWC_Alamo Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 I've had for NLR HF8 for about a week and am using it with SimShakerAviator. However, I am occasionally receiving the error shown below. When it happens, the seat stops working until I acknowledge the error and then it resumes working. Anyone else having this problem? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] TWC_Alamo Denver, CO Military Flight Sim I7-7700K, 4.9 GHz, Z270-Gaming MB, 16GB, 512GB EVO-960 NVMe M.2, 512GB WD Black NVMe M.2, 1 TB SSD Raid, EVGA RTX 2080ti, Samsung Odyssey Plus, TM HOTAS/MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Gametrix 908 JetSeat GA Flight Sim I7-5820K, 4.2Ghz, Godlike Carbon MB, 16GB, 512 GB EVO 960 NVME M.2, 2 X SSD, EVGA 1080ti, HTC Vive, 3 X 4K 55" TVs, 4 X 27" Monitors, CH: Flight Yoke, Throttle Quadrant, Rudder Pedals
rapid Posted April 9, 2023 Author Posted April 9, 2023 Not had any errors yet. Try another USB port maybe a USB 2.0 and not USB 3.0 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
navyao Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 I have the Jet Seat with SS for Aviators software and I've had intermittent problems with it. Don't get me wrong, when it works it works great, and most of the problems I've had were probably user induced...Any issues I've had I've reached out to Andre and he's responded within 12 or so hours and he has been nothing but helpful. Right now for some reason however, I have Jet Seat that's powered and working but it isn't working with DCS. So if anyone is reading this who might be willing to help, I'd appreciate it. I've grown so accustomed to flying with the Jet Seat and added immersion has made me a better sim-pilot. I can't figure out what's wrong...
bartoshka Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 On 3/24/2023 at 10:51 PM, Tehrawk said: After seeing this video, I am making my own version using external sound cards and transducers. Hi, have you succeeded in that? Have you documented it somewhere? Could you kindly point me in a right direction (I intend to do the same, but have no idea where to begin..)
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