solved Not responding after recent mt update

[SPARE 11]

For some reason after the most recent mt. update when I load into a mission, single or multiplayer everything works fine until I hit “fly” to begin the mission and then dcs stops responding. I didn’t have this issue when i tried the new update the first time but now I can’t get it to work. I already tried uninstalling twice. 

dcs.20230320-094508.dmpDxDiag.txtDxDiag.txt

Edited March 20, 2023 by SPARE 11

[SPARE 11]

 

 

Image of what I see.

Also, dcs not responding causes every other program or application on my PC to stop responding.

[Lange_666]

You will get the question to post (or better, attach them) your DCS log (in Saved Games folder) and DXdiag...

[Flappie]

Hi @SPARE 11. It seems your Logitech Hub program keeps crashing ("lghub_system_tray.exe"). Maybe it has something to do with your issues. Try closing Logitech Hub before playing. Is it any better?

As advised by @Lange_666 , please attach your MT dcs.log.

[SPARE 11]

Okay I will try this, I am currently trying to reinstall the update and ill let you know if that works, thanks Flappie.

[SPARE 11]

That didn't seem to work. Here is my log from re trying with MT.

dcs.log mt.txt

[SPARE 11]

1 hour ago, SPARE 11 said:

It did manage to work one time and was able to load the SU25 free flight up. It again said not responding when I opened the controls menu. I tried re naming my dcs file in my saved games folder and launched again and I was able to fly and navigate the menus. I then attempted to reinstall all of my modules like the F14, F18, Supercarrier excreta, I currently run no mods, only things that are offered in the ED store. After my modules were re installed I again opened the mt version on dcs and got the same not responding message. I since have completely uninstalled the logitech software and the issue still persists. Id like to also add this problem does also occur on the non MT version of dcs but may sometimes take a bit longer before I get the not responding message.

 

dcs.logmt2.txt

Edited March 21, 2023 by SPARE 11

[Flappie]

Thanks. In your first file, we can see DCS was compiling shaders. This can take some time. Here's the end of the log:

2023-03-21 01:48:30.303 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=0
2023-03-21 01:48:30.485 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=1
2023-03-21 01:48:30.708 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=2
2023-03-21 01:48:30.910 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=3
2023-03-21 01:48:31.064 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=4
2023-03-21 01:48:31.236 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=5
2023-03-21 01:48:31.422 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=6
2023-03-21 01:48:31.633 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=7
2023-03-21 01:48:31.983 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=8
2023-03-21 01:48:32.246 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=9
2023-03-21 01:48:32.527 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=10
2023-03-21 01:48:32.880 INFO    RENDERER (20224): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=11

Unless you purge shaders each time you're about to play, you should only see this shaders compiling when DCS gets updated.

In your second log, we can see the shaders compiling ended and you were given the cockpit to fly:

2023-03-21 03:04:44.827 INFO    RENDERER (17808): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=10
2023-03-21 03:04:45.145 INFO    RENDERER (17808): Compile shader metashaders/terrain/compute/hwinstancer5.2.fx|metashaders/transformmodifiers/transform_simple.meta.hlsl|CAUCASUS_NOISE=;COLOR_VTI=;DIRECTX11=true;GENERATE_NORMALS=;GROUPSIZE=128;HACK_ASSETS_NORMALS=;NODEFINITIONS=;NOISE_OP=PhotoshopOverlay;PBR_TEXTURES=;SURFACE5=;USE_CAUCASUS_BLEND=;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1;USE_TERRAIN_PALETTE=;VARYHOUSELOD_SELFILLUM_FLIR=|LOD_COUNT=0;1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11;    LOD_COUNT=11
2023-03-21 03:04:46.847 INFO    VISUALIZER (Main): Preload() finished
2023-03-21 03:04:46.860 INFO    APP (Main): Screen: mission_offline
2023-03-21 03:04:46.949 INFO    Dispatcher (Main): precache units resources in slots
2023-03-21 03:04:46.982 ERROR   ED_SOUND (4376): can't load wave: "foley\floppylever_start_257"
2023-03-21 03:04:47.096 INFO    LUA (Main): Lua CPU usage: metric: average mission loading: 6.9157 %
2023-03-21 03:04:47.096 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Create game pool.
2023-03-21 03:04:47.133 INFO    Dispatcher (Main): loadMission Done: Сontrol passed to the player
2023-03-21 03:04:47.148 INFO    DXGUI_WIN_ADAPTER (Main): resize main window to [1920, 1080]

Was the sim stuck here?

Edited March 21, 2023 by Flappie

[SPARE 11]

Indeed it was, should I just wait longer before attempting to press the “fly” button to let the shaders compile? On some occasions it would get me past the briefing window but I would get the not responding message soon after. 

[BIGNEWY]

It is worth waiting, it seems you are having issues with shaders for some reason. 

please ensure windows and your display driver are up to date. 

If you continue to have issues please always attach the dcs log so we can see what you attempt shows in the log. 

thank you

[SPARE 11]

Okay I will try this. I had to reset my pc completely because I think something may be corrupted within windows. I will get back with you you guys once I can try it. 

Edited March 21, 2023 by SPARE 11

[SPARE 11]

The issue still persists. I was able to load up the TF51 and fly around for a little bit without issue. I then reinstalled my modules and loaded up the tomcat, I waited about a minute or so before starting, my track ir was working too so I thought I would be good but the issue still remains.  I attached the MT log.

 

 

 

Also, after restarting my pc again to get out of the not responding message. I saw the screen with the .  I was able to get it fixed via the troubleshoot menu. When I booted back into windows all of my DCS files were gone again.

dcslog1208.txt

Edited March 21, 2023 by SPARE 11

[rob10]

Are you sure you don't have a failing drive?  I'm far from a hardware expert, but I just ran into a failing drive recently that caused weirdness.  And the "boot device inaccessible" and fact that your files are changing/disappearing might point that way.

[SPARE 11]

I’m really not sure. My boot drive and the drive dcs is on are different and I just updated all of my drivers. 

[Flappie]

Hi. You need to ask Windows to check and repair your system drive. Try this:

1. Run a CMD window as administrator.
2. Execute this command: sfc /scannow
3. Execue the command: dism

[SPARE 11]

This seems to fix the issue.  Thank you all so much!

[Flappie]

You're welcome.

Come back here in case the problem is not completely solved.