missing info We are out of missiles---after shooting 4 out 8 ATGMs..

[lei]

Cannot get the AI to shoot more than 4 missles, he claims we are out after shooting 4 from the left rack, unable to shoot from the right. And when i swich to copilot i switch the station selection, but it also shows no missile ready no matter which i pick...

[razo+r]

Got a short track?

[jojojung]

Do you have both Wings still in the Helicopter in the right place?

[AeriaGloria]

1 hour ago, lei said:

Cannot get the AI to shoot more than 4 missles, he claims we are out after shooting 4 from the left rack, unable to shoot from the right. And when i swich to copilot i switch the station selection, but it also shows no missile ready no matter which i pick...

Your wings are either shot off or you have an invalid Loadout. For example carrying ATGM 5-8 with S-5 pods make said ATGM not work. 

[admiki]

9 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

Your wings are either shot off or you have an invalid Loadout. For example carrying ATGM 5-8 with S-5 pods make said ATGM not work. 

Shouldn't you be able to fire wingtip stations? OP says left rack fires normal

[AeriaGloria]

1 minute ago, admiki said:

Shouldn't you be able to fire wingtip stations? OP says left rack fires normal

Yes, by ATGM 5-8 I mean inboard stations 

[admiki]

Yeah, but if they fired 4 and OP says left rack fired no problem, so 5-6 fired too. I assume S-5 isn't a problem.

 

[lei]

I did have rocket loaded as well (mission default) but indeed 4 were shot  from the left wing,  Right wing all 4 tubes still closed. Is this related to the rocket pod making it not functional?

Any valid configuration with 8 ATGM? I find ground unit too deadly to get anywhere close enough for non-ATGM attack. even T55 head shot me with its main gun, not to mention all these AA elite BMPs...

[admiki]

12 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

Your wings are either shot off or you have an invalid Loadout. For example carrying ATGM 5-8 with S-5 pods make said ATGM not work. 

Actually, we are both wrong. S-5/ATGM combo will make S-5 not working, not inboard ATGM stations.

55 minutes ago, lei said:

I did have rocket loaded as well (mission default) but indeed 4 were shot  from the left wing,  Right wing all 4 tubes still closed. Is this related to the rocket pod making it not functional?

Any valid configuration with 8 ATGM? I find ground unit too deadly to get anywhere close enough for non-ATGM attack. even T55 head shot me with its main gun, not to mention all these AA elite BMPs...

Most likely received damage to the wiring (wing still present) that prevented those weapons to fire. Did you try firing rockets at all?

[lei]

Rocket works, just the ATGM on the right side and happened to me all the time, before i have gotten any damage.

[razo+r]

Attach a short track.

[lei]

I made a file repair because my combined arms module somehow become unauthorized, now i can no longer reproduce the out of missle issue. Anyway thanks for your attention and help.

[AeriaGloria]

15 hours ago, lei said:

I made a file repair because my combined arms module somehow become unauthorized, now i can no longer reproduce the out of missle issue. Anyway thanks for your attention and help.

You mostly had your wing pylons shot up then. 
 

Looking at the Loadout chart, 8x ATTM should work with 

2x S-8 pod 

2x KMGU 

2x S-24 

Bombs won’t work. If you load those you won’t be able to drop them. And as mentioned before, if you load 2x S-5 pods with 8x ATGM  then only the ATGM will work. If you load GUV pod, then ATGM won’t fire. So Just don’t load S-5 UB-32 pods or bombs or GUV with 5-8 ATGM. Anything will work with ATGM 1-4 on wingtip stations 
 

Edited March 28, 2023 by AeriaGloria

[jojojung]

Same bug for me too. Loadout was 8 ATGM Ataka and 2xS8. Petrovic fired all 4 ATGMs from one wing and said out of missles. But the other wing was there and I never took fire in this particular flight.
He also respond Ataka selected but followed by out of missles when in fire position.

Edited March 31, 2024 by jojojung

[AeriaGloria]

1 hour ago, jojojung said:

Same bug for me too. Loadout was 8 ATGM Ataka and 2xS8. Petrovic fired all 4 ATGMs from one wing and said out of missles. But the other wing was there and I never took fire in this particular flight.
He also respond Ataka selected but followed by out of missles when in fire position.

 

We would need a track to know for sure, since you didn’t take any damage and had 2x S-8

[KoN]

Ok I have encountered this my AT-9 fired all from left side but none from right side , this was only couple of days ago . I thought maybe a hit , but I could not see any damage. I did on one occasion see two red lights on near the jettison switches . On the right hand side . I clicked the two little circle buttons and the red lights went off . Never seen this before . I think on two occasions I've rtb with full AT not fired on right side . How can you send in tracks when they are broken . Do you use replay . From multiplayer. 

 

Edited June 18, 2024 by KoN

[AeriaGloria]

1 hour ago, KoN said:

Ok I have encountered this my AT-9 fired all from left side but none from right side , this was only couple of days ago . I thought maybe a hit , but I could not see any damage. I did on one occasion see two red lights on near the jettison switches . On the right hand side . I clicked the two little circle buttons and the red lights went off . Never seen this before . I think on two occasions I've rtb with full AT not fired on right side . How can you send in tracks when they are broken . Do you use replay . From multiplayer. 

 

 

If you press “rocket” arm it will turn on two rocket armed orange lights on weapon panel. All this does is reset rocket pods to start at first rocket. I think in DCS, if you don’t Press it, it will start halfway through the first salvo

[KoN]

6 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

If you press “rocket” arm it will turn on two rocket armed orange lights on weapon panel. All this does is reset rocket pods to start at first rocket. I think in DCS, if you don’t Press it, it will start halfway through the first salvo

What if your doing auto start , as this is my main way of getting into the air , I have so many models, I no longer do manual cockpit starts ,I'll check on startup . See if lights go out .  There has been on occasions were AT won't even fire even with a locked target from Petro help. Everything looks normal, I've had to switch to guns then back again , then come back and retry . This is all online server . 

[admiki]

3 hours ago, KoN said:

What if your doing auto start , as this is my main way of getting into the air , I have so many models, I no longer do manual cockpit starts ,I'll check on startup . See if lights go out .  There has been on occasions were AT won't even fire even with a locked target from Petro help. Everything looks normal, I've had to switch to guns then back again , then come back and retry . This is all online server . 

Are station occupied lights ON?

That might be your clue if you got damaged. But being able to fire only one side looks like battle damage to me, regardless if you can spot it visually. 

[AeriaGloria]

3 hours ago, KoN said:

What if your doing auto start , as this is my main way of getting into the air , I have so many models, I no longer do manual cockpit starts ,I'll check on startup . See if lights go out .  There has been on occasions were AT won't even fire even with a locked target from Petro help. Everything looks normal, I've had to switch to guns then back again , then come back and retry . This is all online server . 

Not on auto start, but they aren’t needed. All you need to do is press the rocket fire button an extra time to finish the salvo. It’s something they could’ve not simulated and no one would care. 

As for the four loaded lights, yes if they go out and you don’t jettison/fire the station , then it’s because the pylon is damaged. 
 

Sometiems Petro won’t fire ATGm If target is obstructed, and you wil get a text message saying so 

[KoN]

2 hours ago, admiki said:

Are station occupied lights ON?

That might be your clue if you got damaged. But being able to fire only one side looks like battle damage to me, regardless if you can spot it visually. 

Always lights on , until damaged . All four lights are on  I have a set routine before taking off , I've just this second flown with a mixture of AA on pylon 1-4 and 4 x AT-9 on the externals . 

Do i need to switch between pylon 2-3 for ground AT-9 as this is for Rockets pylons ..yes ?? I've just finished online server and All weapons fired from left side not right side . Are they supposed to alternate between pylons left side - right side  . ? 

Battle damage what battle damage I don't hear any battle damage .. lol  

Edited June 18, 2024 by KoN

[AeriaGloria]

13 minutes ago, KoN said:

Always lights on , until damaged . All four lights are on  I have a set routine before taking off , I've just this second flown with a mixture of AA on pylon 1-4 and 4 x AT-9 on the externals . 

Do i need to switch between pylon 2-3 for ground AT-9 as this is for Rockets pylons ..yes ?? I've just finished online server and All weapons fired from left side not right side . Are they supposed to alternate between pylons left side - right side  . ? 

Battle damage what battle damage I don't hear any battle damage .. lol  

 

ATGMs are fired by Petro in number order, 1-8. No need to switch pylons, you can tell Petro to switch missile type with Petro menu