Cliffhanger31 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Creil airfield as it currently modeled on the Normandy 2.0 map appears in a modern NATO era configuration instead of its wartime layout. Below is a photo of Creil from 1944 followed by a current Google Earth image of the airfield. 1
Fred901 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Yes, it's true ! Moreover, there are many aerodromes which are not in conformity with the time! however, I created a post to provide information on airfields: In addition, there are many generic airfields with no similarities to period airfields. It's really a shame for such a beautiful map... I hope the devs fix the flaws! 1
Cliffhanger31 Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Yes I’ve noticed that many of the airfields are “copy-pasted”. For example Beauvais-Tille and Amiens-Glisy are the exact same airfield. Similarly, Odiham is just Conches copied and pasted into England which is really disappointing because it looks nothing like a wartime RAF base and they don’t even have the same number of runways! Poix is also exactly the same as Evreux. I hope they can bring all of these airfields up to the same standards as Villacoublay and Cormellies which are both excellent representations of the real airfields during the war. Edited April 28, 2023 by Cliffhanger31
Fred901 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Couches airfield on the map is not at all representative of the real one of the time! On the map it is part of the layout of the Evreux aerodrome! Moreover Evreux is badly oriented. Beauvais Tille had 2 tracks just like that of Amiens Glisy..... I'm quite disappointed with all these vintage aerodromes! https://forgottenairfields.com/airfield-conches-en-ouche-closed-1112.html Edited April 28, 2023 by Fred901
Cliffhanger31 Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 Ahh yes I meant to say that Conches and Odiham don’t have the same number of runways, at least in the way Conches is represented in the game. Even still, Creil is the one that needs to be fixed the most because it’s not even a wartime airfield layout, the whole airfield is modeled as it looks in the present day.
Fred901 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 I have already provided the layout of Odiham to the devs as well as a good number of airfields present on the map. maybe they didn't have time to get the map out as soon as possible? I don't know !
Cliffhanger31 Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 Yeah maybe it’s just an early access issue and they will continue to improve the airfields moving forward. We’ll see
Voolpy Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) You right. the Creil airfield is wrong, totally wrong. The problem with the Creil airfield is the current version. They didn't bother, satellite image the contours, digitalization and hop. During the war airfield was very different, the Germans even hid the planes in the woods nearby, there are still the slab accesses. This work isn't serious. In the end, Nomandy's map is disappointing because it lacks the basics so as not to overshadow the Channel map. Rather than putting benches, kiosks etc... I would have preferred to have a realistic airfield, So what about the other bases? In this link you will find details about the Creil airfield during the war, (it is in French) https://www.anciens-aerodromes.com/illustrationsterrains/Creil.htm With the pic of the map, have fun looking for the differences (from the site "les amis du vieux Verneuil") Edited April 28, 2023 by Voolpy
Rudel_chw Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Voolpy said: Nomandy's map is disappointing because it lacks the basics so as not to overshadow the Channel map Yes, a 60 dollar map should be nothing short of absolute perfection, you are entitled to nothing less than superb precision ... hopefully your purchased it on Steam so you can return it and get a refund ... me? I paid just US$ 10, so I intend to fully enjoy it as some inaccuracies dont bother me nor impede my flights. 2 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Cliffhanger31 Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 I’m actually very impressed with Normandy 2.0, it is by far the best WWII map ever created for a flight sim. There are a few issues that need addressing, including Creil, Odiham, Poix, Amiens, and Conches, but I think these are just early access problems. The devs have shown they are willing to tweak airfields to make them correct, for example Villacoublay, Orly, and Cormellies are spectacular. 2
Fred901 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) This map is very beautiful ! Only there are a lot of things to review. By helping the devs we have a better chance of getting good improvements! For example, there are quite a few airfields like Lornai or Broglie which were just fields with no hard construction: no hangars, just the minimum! The planes were hidden under trees to hide from Allied reconnaissance. For those who are interested, go to this post for information on the airfields on the maps. I will take the time to add other information on other aerodromes. Hoping it helps! Edited April 28, 2023 by Fred901 1
Iron Sights Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 I think the map is a great improvement. I had both so it’s an upgrade that tends to allow you fly in one place rather than have jump between maps. Like all things ED, it should get better with time. Frame rates are excellent too, so I’m happy!
Minsky Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: I paid just US$ 10, so I intend to fully enjoy it as some inaccuracies dont bother me nor impede my flights. It's not just "some inaccuracies", man, it's sloppiness and plain laziness. More than a few airfields that were supposed to be historically correct in the Normandy 1944 map now have a completely different layouts in the Normandy 2.0. And more than a few have been simply cloned: Ugra literally took one airfield, rotated it and pasted under a new name, with all the little details such as bikes and crates at the exact same places. These might be hard to spot when you have seventy aerodromes, but I do and it bothers me. 5 1 Dima | My DCS uploads
Miro Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) On 4/28/2023 at 9:26 PM, Rudel_chw said: Yes, a 60 dollar map should be nothing short of absolute perfection, you are entitled to nothing less than superb precision ... hopefully your purchased it on Steam so you can return it and get a refund ... me? I paid just US$ 10, so I intend to fully enjoy it as some inaccuracies dont bother me nor impede my flights. There's Ace Combat 7 now on Steam sale, for 10 USD, it had some inaccuraties in FM, DM, Model, and terrain, but it's for 10 USD, so You can fully enjoy it Edited May 17, 2023 by Miro :pilotfly:
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