Should I buy the P47?

[Digitalvole]

As the title suggests, I’m after some buying advice. I know I can do the free trial, but I like to hear from the pros.

I know next to nothing about the P47 and haven’t really had an urge to buy it until today, and I’m not exactly sure why. 

What’s it like to fly? I have the Spit (love it) and Mossie (mixed emotions) is it a bit of a lump compared to them? I’d always thought of it as an inferior plane to the Mustang, and if I was to get a Yank warbird it’d have to be the P51. Is this just me showing my ignorance? Also do my American cousins mind being referred to as Yank? If so sorry

[Gunfreak]

P-47 is the closest thing to a "multirole" ww2 plane in this game. It holds it own just fine against the Two Fw190s, but might have problems with the 109. It's more complicated engine management wise than the Spit and Mustang as you got Manifold pressure, rpm and a separate boost thingy and water injection. 

Able to carry 3 bombs and 10 rockets. It's a fantastic ground ponder plane. The P51 might be a better air to air plane. Tho I do better in the 47.  It's far harder to keep it in the air than the Sptifire. It is a boom and zoom fighter.  Like the 51 and the German planes.

[peachmonkey]

P47 is very heavy.

~9.800kg for Mosquito

~7,900kg for P47

~4,100kg for P51

~3,000kg for the Spit

So it is by far not a nimble aircraft. Down on deck it becomes very obvious. However, it has excellent high altitude performance at 20,000'+. If you meet LW AC's at high altitude you have a very high chance of getting an upper hand IF you're a master of the controls and don't blow up your engine due to MP, overheat, rpm over-speed, or turbo rpm over-speed. Multi-faceted engine controls are its weak side. To me, it's actually a PLUS, the harder the better , obviously you will make your own conclusions.

It also can take a lot of ground and enemy AC fire before it goes down (as long as it's not on fire), so its survivability is much higher than any of the water-cooled ac's.

If you want to geek out, get P47.

 

Edited May 12, 2023 by peachmonkey

[Digitalvole]

Thanks @peachmonkey 

From what you’ve said the P 47 sounds like a lot. Maybe I’d be better off getting the Mustang or just sticking with my RAF duo. I realise now it’s the A-G that has me interested in the Thunderbolt, but it sounds like there is maybe too much engine management involved for my tastes.

Either way, thank you Peacmonkey. That has helped me

 

[peachmonkey]

4 minutes ago, Digitalvole said:

Thanks @peachmonkey 

From what you’ve said the P 47 sounds like a lot. Maybe I’d be better off getting the Mustang or just sticking with my RAF duo. I realise now it’s the A-G that has me interested in the Thunderbolt, but it sounds like there is maybe too much engine management involved for my tastes.

Either way, thank you Peacmonkey. That has helped me

 

you're welcome, @Digitalvole

another comment about engine management: 

- if you're doing A2G attacks, which are on deck obviously, then the turbo isn't used (it's a high altitude feature), so the only thing you need to look for is simply not to over-boos the engine (i.e. above 52" without water injection, or 64" with water), compared to P51 where there's an overboost protection/regulator in place. Once you set the RPM's they stay where they need to, etc.  i.e.  it's not a big departure from other planes.

- However, when you start fighting enemy AC, that's where the engine mgmt becomes critical/requires more attention.

So, you can practice doing A2G sorties and don't get tangled up in dog fights, and the workload won't be that much bigger than P51's. Once you get comfortable with A2G you can try venturing into the air battles. So, from the re-playability perspective P47 is a very interesting AC with many capabilities.

With P51 you can also do A2G, but with the current ED's aimbot ground fire you'll have a much tougher time because a single rifle hit can penetrate the waterjacket and you'll have to turn for home pretty much immediately.

So there are pro's and con's anywhere you look.

[Slippa]

I’m no expert, not by a long way so just my opinion as someone that has the P47.

I started on the Spit. Had to, however difficult it is to start on. I love it, along with the Mossie. Once I could start and sort of fly those I got the Mustang and the Jug. I found the Mustang a lot more forgiving than the Spit in a lot of ways. On the ground as well as in the air. Another legendary fighter you have to have. Easy to convert to from the Spit.

I wasn’t as keen on the Jug, more curious. I had (and still do) a fair bit of trouble with it on the ground when it’s fully laden and take-offs can either go fairly easily or extremely badly. Get one. I’m definitely converted. As mentioned earlier, it’s great for multi-role stuff. It feels and flies heavier than the Spit and 51 but is great to fly about, hits hard (if your target spotting’s better than mine) and is as tough as old boots. Coloured smokes too if you’re feeling a display flight coming on.
 

Get one, and the Mustang, treat yourself haha. 

[Iron Sights]

I really like the P-47 and I have all the WWII planes except the I-16. The Thunderbolt can hold its own in a dogfight, eight fifties can do tremendous damage. It all about getting your bullet conversation right. She can take tons of damage and get you back home. On some MP servers where flights are short I find you can push the engine harder then most and get away with it if the flight time is limited. Once you learn your rudder in the turn she is good to turn inside of most in the first turn. Since they have the sale, I say get both for comparison.

[Gunfreak]

After the Sptifire the P47 is by far my most used warbird. Besides the engine aspect. In a dogfight. You'll be using the rudder much more active than in the Spitfire. You really need work those pedals to keep the plane on the knife edge.

[Scotch75]

There's nothing more satisfying than pounding a light armoured vehicle with those 8 x 50 calibres. I find the jug very stable for stafing. I still can't dive bomb accurately yet, but I'm getting there. It's definitely worth the buy, especially at 50% off sale. You'll get many hours of enjoyment out of it.
Cheers!


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[Digitalvole]

Thank you everyone, very helpful indeed. The ground pounding sounds great but I didn’t realise it was a complicated beast. Not sure I have the time to learn it all at the moment. Oh well, but again thanks.

[Silent Film]

I've got P-51, P-47, Spitfire, and Bf 109. P-51 is still my favorite for all around purposes and for the enjoyment of flying. I am disappointed with Spitfire, it appeared not to be my thing. I bought Bf 109 believing it would be a better dogfighting experience than the P-51, but that poor visibility from the cockpit really sucks (similarly to Spitfire). P-47 is an awesomely done module, very detailed and with smooth operation, so it is really enjoyable as a module, but a bit heavy aircraft to fly for my taste. But definitely yes for purchasing.

[Extranajero]

I bought the P-47 on day one, flew it around a bit and decided it was a heap of junk, i.e it isn't a Spitfire

But I tried it again recently and it's now possibly my favourite DCS warbird.

1) It's easy to fly, you have 3 axises of trim and it doesn't try to kill you every time you land or take off
2) The engine management isn't anywhere near as bad as it seems and the engine is very robust if you treat it right
3) It can carry a huge amount of ordnance for a single engine warbird and delivers it well
4) It can take a lot of damage and keep on flying
5) It isn't outclassed by the two FW's and a good pilot can hold his own with a K4 with the right tactics. As I usually find out to my cost when flying Luftwaffe
6) The view over the nose is good by the standards of the day - for shooting in a turn - and the gyro gunsight is actually helpful up to a point