cannot reproduce Combined Arms to F16/F18 - TPOD stretched / blurry / offset (ST)

[TheGhostOfDefi]

I recognized while flying A10CII in a Multiplayer Server that the resolution of my FLIR was horrible. After zooming in i knew why: just the top right corner is being shown of the entire picture so its kind of stretched. 

When zooming in I recognized that my FLIR isnt shown completly. CCD (TV) works fine!

Maverick got the same issue. So i jumped in the AH-64 and there too the flir has a offset and poor quality.

I was playing Combined Arms in the beginning on the same Server without this issue while using FLIR.

Video: 

 

Pictures of the PNVS: null

[Flappie]

Hi. Can you reproduce this issue at will? If so, please attach a short SP track.

We also need your dcs.log file from "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs".

[TheGhostOfDefi]

7 hours ago, Flappie said:

Hi. Can you reproduce this issue at will? If so, please attach a short SP track.

We also need your dcs.log file from "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs".

I have to admit that this issue is 4 day old I just now had the time to gather everything together. I forgot to save the log, is there some kind of archive? 
Never had this problem again and I went through the track but this is off and I crash in the track before I used FLIR.

if there is something else that could help just let me know but sadly this there is everything I have..

[Flappie]

There is one log archived (dcs.log.old) and that's it. It's OK. You know what to do if the issue reappears.

[TheGhostOfDefi]

On 1/25/2023 at 5:51 PM, Flappie said:

There is one log archived (dcs.log.old) and that's it. It's OK. You know what to do if the issue reappears.

Short update: It reoccoured, always after Playing CA (and using FLIR and 3rd person) and going back in a Plane. Unfortunately in the meantime my Pc crashed and i lost all data. 

I know its not very constructive but i wanted to mention it.

[MartinCo]

Hi ED,

I took a look around and didn't see if this was reported yet.

Steps:
* Load into combined arms vehicle with FLIR
* Use WHOT/BHOT within vehicle
* Slot into an F16/18 or other FLIR equipped pod
* FLIR image now rather blurry incorrect / not looking where you are with only TV mode being as expected.

Please see track file attached

Regards,
Martin

CA_FLIR_ISSUE.trk

Edited August 24, 2023 by MartinCo

[MartinCo]

Hey @Flappie sorry for the bump+ping off your beaten track - just wondering if this has been reproduced / raised internally as an issue.

It's quite a frustrating issue for those of us who jump between CA / Fixed wing to have to logoff/back on again to have a functioning TPOD (most of the time we only notice after a rearm / refuel period get airborne, then going DOH!)

Naturally it's not a game crash or anything and will probably end up lower down on the prios - but knowing it's on the issue list would be great!

Thanks,
Martin

[Flappie]

Hey, thanks for the track. I don't fly the F-16 often, but I think the picture is OK. What do you think? Do you get a different result?

 

[MartinCo]

Yea, that looks normal, for me TV mode is the only one that works correctly - you have to use WHOT / BHOT when in the CA vehicle just in case you didn't - then it should present.

Please see the following video: 

 

The same happens in the F-18 if you prefer that (also attached track from which this video was taken) 

If it matters, I am running 3440x1440 I haven't tried in 16:9/4:3 or other aspect ratios just in case that influences it as it does look rather aspect squashed - will give it a go.

Edit again: 

Tested in (windowed) 4/3 (1600x1200) and 16:9 (1920x1080) and issue remains.

As I have a 2nd monitor, I also disconnected that too leaving just my primary monitor (3440x1440) and re-tested in native resolution and the issue persists there too.

CA_FLIR_ISSUE_2.trk

Edited July 22, 2023 by MartinCo

[MartinCo]

Checked under 2.8.7.42583 - issue remains

Edit: also nuked my entire DCS profile directory + repair with issue persisting

Edited July 25, 2023 by MartinCo

[MartinCo]

Hey @Flappie, just checking in to see if you had managed to review the video / had any luck reproducing it from that.

[Flappie]

Hey. I first tried not using CA prior to flying, then using CA prior to flying. Here's the video. I don't see any difference. Do you?

(sorry, the video is being encoded in 4K and it takes time)

FLIR_no_CA.trk FLIR_CA.trk

[MartinCo]

Hey @Flappie - Nope, your video looks perfect! thanks for that

I replayed your track and the issue remains for me! I did a full dcs profile wipe again, so i guess it must be hardware / drivers / etc.

I also tried using the options.lua from the track as well to see if any my settings were causing it - but no joy.

I'm curious if it's graphics card / driver related - would you mind sharing what you're running there ? I'm running a 3090 with 531.41 will try later drivers to see if that's it - and also remove all non-kbd/mouse peripherals just to see if I can get the replay to work and track this down further. I know it's certainly not just me as it's been a problem for quite a number of players

Thank you
Martin

[SkateZilla]

7 minutes ago, MartinCo said:

Hey @Flappie - Nope, your video looks perfect! thanks for that

I replayed your track and the issue remains for me! I did a full dcs profile wipe again, so i guess it must be hardware / drivers / etc.

I also tried using the options.lua from the track as well to see if any my settings were causing it - but no joy.

I'm curious if it's graphics card / driver related - would you mind sharing what you're running there ? I'm running a 3090 with 531.41 will try later drivers to see if that's it - and also remove all non-kbd/mouse peripherals just to see if I can get the replay to work and track this down further. I know it's certainly not just me as it's been a problem for quite a number of players

Thank you
Martin

Graphics card wouldnt cause the zoom axes to be offset in WHOT/BHOT Modes.

[MartinCo]

After

- removing all peripherals except keyboard mouse
- unplugged any additional monitors / VR headset (none of this was running under VR)
- disabled streamdeck 
- shutdown trackir software

The issue remained. 

However, launching DCS-MT - the issue is no longer present! (can't believe I hadn't tried that earlier)

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by MartinCo

[Hbomb]

So I thought this had been Reported and Verified. This has been happening way too long (since 2023-present) and not just F16/18... it has always been a problem on multi-player Servers if you use combined arms FLIR for a while you are risking the FLIR warping out on all aircraft, having to restart the game to Rectify the problem.

It's like the FLIR is Zoomed in too much and is not centered on the view when slewing around. (Drunk View as per Martins video)

I have NOW been able to recreate this on single player for a Track File.... had to jump into the tank a couple of times.

It also only happens on ED aircraft. F15e and Harrier are fine, then back into ED aircraft F18/A10/AH-64 it's still present.

Here are Examples in the AH-64 Front and Back seat

If the track is not working..

Easily reproduced by jumping in the tank, use the FLIR... then back and forth any aircraft-tank/FLIR a couple of times... it will start warping in TPOD's, TADS/PNVS ETC...

FLIR.trk

Flir issues..trk.miz

Edited April 29 by Hbomb

[Hbomb]

More Examples,

F18, A10

[Pillowcat]

kind of related (in a sense of sensors image distortions after changing vehicles):

 

[NineLine]

On 4/29/2025 at 4:25 AM, Hbomb said:

More Examples,

F18, A10

I am unable to reproduce this, but if you have a track showing this I can check that out for sure. 

[TheGhostOfDefi]

 Can basically merge those: 

 

 

Step by Step i needed:

1. Go into combined arms switch a bit around with Flir and First and 3rd person view. And the Q seat switching while in FLIR & back.

2. Go back into any aircraft

3. FLIR only stretched / bugged

 

(Repost since im an Idiot.)

Edited Wednesday at 11:22 PM by TheGhostOfDefi

[NineLine]

19 minutes ago, TheGhostOfDefi said:

 Can basically merge those: 

 

 

Step by Step i needed:

1. Go into combined arms switch a bit around with Flir and First and 3rd person view.

2. Go back into any aircraft

3. FLIR only stretched / bugged

 

(Repost since im an Idiot.)

I am not able to reproduce this following your steps, please include a track, as well include a screenshot of your graphic settings, and dcs.log from a session you are able to reproduce this, thanks!

[TheGhostOfDefi]

28 minutes ago, NineLine said:

I am not able to reproduce this following your steps, please include a track, as well include a screenshot of your graphic settings, and dcs.log from a session you are able to reproduce this, thanks!

I admit following my Step by Step list i dont get the issue recreated right away! 

After i leave the aircraft do the step by step stuff and then go back into the aircraft. Then i can recreate this issue. Track attached.

 

FLIRIssueDefi1.trk

[Hbomb]

Hi NineLine,

As Per my First Post...

During a normal Multiplayer sessions changing back an forth from Aircraft to Combined Arms (using the Flir) Creates the Issue...

To get it to work on Single Player for the Track File. I changed Back and Forth from Aircraft to Combined Arms (using the Flir) a total of 3 times created the Issue.

Track and Mission files Attached to original post.

Cheers Hbomb.

On 4/29/2025 at 8:26 PM, Hbomb said:

So I thought this had been Reported and Verified. This has been happening way too long (since 2023-present) and not just F16/18... it has always been a problem on multi-player Servers if you use combined arms FLIR for a while you are risking the FLIR warping out on all aircraft, having to restart the game to Rectify the problem.

It's like the FLIR is Zoomed in too much and is not centered on the view when slewing around. (Drunk View as per Martins video)

I have NOW been able to recreate this on single player for a Track File.... had to jump into the tank a couple of times.

It also only happens on ED aircraft. F15e and Harrier are fine, then back into ED aircraft F18/A10/AH-64 it's still present.

Here are Examples in the AH-64 Front and Back seat

If the track is not working..

Easily reproduced by jumping in the tank, use the FLIR... then back and forth any aircraft-tank/FLIR a couple of times... it will start warping in TPOD's, TADS/PNVS ETC...

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