Tengah Posted June 6, 2023 Posted June 6, 2023 Hello to all. Please forgive me if this question has been asked previously, I am a DCS returnee after several years away from the sim. My question is: other than the Scimitar, are there any mods in the works for cold war British aircraft such as the Fightning (E.E Lightning) Jaguar GR, Tornado GR1, Buccaneer, Canberra, etc? As a "maturing" Brit and a product of the 60's, 70's and 80's I was always frustrated that the UK's military aircraft were poorly represented in DCS considering the HUGE presence in the aviation annals of history. If anyone can give a heads up to any Mod I would be extremely grateful, as this would keep my interest in DCS peaked. Many thanks in advance.
Yurgon Posted June 6, 2023 Posted June 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, Tengah said: Tornado GR1 The Tornado IDS is in the making as a fully developed 3rd party module: As for the other aircraft you asked about, I'm not aware of any mods, but that isn't to say there's nothing on the way - the modding community is quite active these days and I just don't keep up with all the developments. 3
Tengah Posted June 6, 2023 Author Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Thank you Yurgon, I did notice the Tornado, alas it is the German IDS variant, quite different from the UK GR1. Guys, I was merely casting the net to see if anyone was creating or considering creating mods or modules for UK equipment, I think it would be a huge positive for DCS. Thanks everyone for looking at this post, I do appreciate any and all responses. Edited June 6, 2023 by Tengah 2
Solution SlimJimIV Posted June 6, 2023 Solution Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) There's a team working on a Jag, and I think I saw a 3d model for a Bucc floating around somewhere in the modding discord server. Besides that, I'm sure your imagination can bring the IDS to GR.1 standards when it does eventually arrive in a couple of years time. Anything RAF/FAA is going to be probably at least next year if not later, so you'll have to hurry up and wait I think, at least for the time being. I do know of at least one more mod, but it's in very early stages and not yet ready to be made public, but I'm sure there'll be a forum post and I'll note it in the Scimitar's discord when it is announced. Further thoughts: assuming we get an F4J or S model from Heatblur's Phantom (again, a couple of years out most likely), the you'll also have the opportunity to have what is effectively and F4J(UK) with the wrong radios, and you can always slap an RAF skin on the AV8BNA given it's basically a GR7 with the wrong bombs. Edited June 6, 2023 by SlimJimIV 1 High speed, smooth brain
Tengah Posted June 7, 2023 Author Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) SlimJim, absolutely. The Tornado... IDS to GR... Well... That is a tall order for me personally. Perhaps a 3rd party mod to replace the Cerberus pod for a Skyshadow would be a good start. I have been roughing it with UK skins on the AV8 (still most definitely the US variant) and the Hornet to try and imagine a poor man's Jag, . The F-4J would be something, that's for sure. To have a Bucc in DCS would be my idea of absolute heaven. I will take a nose around for the Jag mod, thank you for the heads up there. I am extremely grateful to all the mod creators out there for giving us what we have, so a BIG thank you to all of you. I have no problem with waiting, as this is the nature of the beast, just I am surprised that after so many years away from DCS I came back with the hope that we would be looking at something British by now. Thank you very much for your reply, SlimJim, and look forward to the mystery announcement. Edited June 7, 2023 by Tengah
KrazyPilot Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 8:43 PM, Tengah said: SlimJim, absolutely. The Tornado... IDS to GR... Well... That is a tall order for me personally. Perhaps a 3rd party mod to replace the Cerberus pod for a Skyshadow would be a good start. I have been roughing it with UK skins on the AV8 (still most definitely the US variant) and the Hornet to try and imagine a poor man's Jag, . The F-4J would be something, that's for sure. To have a Bucc in DCS would be my idea of absolute heaven. I will take a nose around for the Jag mod, thank you for the heads up there. I am extremely grateful to all the mod creators out there for giving us what we have, so a BIG thank you to all of you. I have no problem with waiting, as this is the nature of the beast, just I am surprised that after so many years away from DCS I came back with the hope that we would be looking at something British by now. Thank you very much for your reply, SlimJim, and look forward to the mystery announcement. I am totally with you on getting my hands on a Jaguar and even more so a Bucc. Albeit, I favor my Redfor ground pounders a little more because of nostalgia I absolutely am excited for the day we get either one of those or better BOTH.. But, time must do its thing first and besides Modules or even Mods we all can use a lot of love for bringing DCS up to more modern standards and MT is a big start to that thankfully. Cheers man I hope the Community will bring fourth our answers for our mutual love for these beautiful beasts. I also have my eyes on that Scimitar and Lancaster Got to love the DCS modding community and their passion! 2 Rig Specs: 34" 3440x1440 Monitor - CPU: Ryzen 7800X3D - GPU: XFX RX 7900 XT Speedster MERC 310 - MOBO: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX - SSD: WD BLACK SN-850X 2TB + SN-770 2TB - RAM: 6000Mhz 64GB
Rudel_chw Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 1:29 PM, Tengah said: such as the Fightning (E.E Lightning) Razbam has been working on a Lightning for quite some time: https://stormbirds.blog/2020/05/15/razbam-confirms-development-on-lightning-for-dcs/ hopefully a sucessful F-15E launch will provide them enough funds to finish it. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Tengah Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: Razbam has been working on a Lightning for quite some time: https://stormbirds.blog/2020/05/15/razbam-confirms-development-on-lightning-for-dcs/ hopefully a sucessful F-15E launch will provide them enough funds to finish it. It would appear that the RAZBAM Lightning project has been shut down, unfortunately, but thank you for your reply, Rudel. 1
Extranajero Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 2:43 AM, Tengah said: I have been roughing it with UK skins on the AV8 (still most definitely the US variant) and the Hornet to try and imagine a poor man's Jag, . The F-4J would be something, that's for sure. To have a Bucc in DCS would be my idea of absolute heaven. I will take a nose around for the Jag mod, thank you for the heads up there. If you want a Jag-like aircraft then I'd say Aerges Mirage F1 is a pretty good fit, much better than the Hornet. It looks fairly like the Jag, it's got an unremarkable turn rate like the Jag and it's quite fast once it gets wound up - same as the Jag. It's got a few handling traits that the 'pilot' needs to stay on top of, but it doesn't depart nastily like the Jag. Obviously you only have the single engine and it's not horribly underpowered, but that might be a feature instead of a 'bug' - like the more benign accelerated stall behaviour. The avionics don't have the same capabilities, you have a ground mapping radar mode, but no moving map. The HUD symbology for air to ground weapons delivery isn't much more than a depressible pipper, nothing like the Jags Ferranti HUD-WAS. You do get an INS on the E models and the M model -when it arrives - is a dedicated ground attack aircraft although I've got no idea what features it has. Many of the existing weapons are already a very good fit for cold war RAF style missions. Aerges have a great work rate, so maybe the M model isn't too far away ? Interestingly - I don't know if you are aware of this - the MOD took a look at the Viggen as being a replacement for the Bucc, but I have a very strong feeling it was just one of those typical civil service type arse covering exercises where they pretend to have considered other options before going ahead with whatever it was they wanted all along. I doubt that it would have shared the same avionics or engine either, they would have fitted a RR engine and used Ferranti and Marconi to provide all the wiggly amp bits. Probably they'd have made a complete pigs ear out of the development and it would have been twice as expensive as the original and half as capable 1 --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
Tengah Posted June 15, 2023 Author Posted June 15, 2023 On 6/10/2023 at 11:11 AM, Extranajero said: If you want a Jag-like aircraft then I'd say Aerges Mirage F1 is a pretty good fit, much better than the Hornet. It looks fairly like the Jag, it's got an unremarkable turn rate like the Jag and it's quite fast once it gets wound up - same as the Jag. It's got a few handling traits that the 'pilot' needs to stay on top of, but it doesn't depart nastily like the Jag. Obviously you only have the single engine and it's not horribly underpowered, but that might be a feature instead of a 'bug' - like the more benign accelerated stall behaviour. The avionics don't have the same capabilities, you have a ground mapping radar mode, but no moving map. The HUD symbology for air to ground weapons delivery isn't much more than a depressible pipper, nothing like the Jags Ferranti HUD-WAS. You do get an INS on the E models and the M model -when it arrives - is a dedicated ground attack aircraft although I've got no idea what features it has. Many of the existing weapons are already a very good fit for cold war RAF style missions. Aerges have a great work rate, so maybe the M model isn't too far away ? Interestingly - I don't know if you are aware of this - the MOD took a look at the Viggen as being a replacement for the Bucc, but I have a very strong feeling it was just one of those typical civil service type arse covering exercises where they pretend to have considered other options before going ahead with whatever it was they wanted all along. I doubt that it would have shared the same avionics or engine either, they would have fitted a RR engine and used Ferranti and Marconi to provide all the wiggly amp bits. Probably they'd have made a complete pigs ear out of the development and it would have been twice as expensive as the original and half as capable The Mirage is a good call, I have bought it, but have not flown it yet, having my hands full trying to reimmerse myself into DCS and all I have heard so many "rumours" regarding Phantom and Jag replacements over the years, indeed back in 86 just before I joined the "mob" a lecturer told me of a reliable story that the MoD was looking at the Hornet to replace the Jag. Now, whether that was true or not we can imagine the absolute abortion the RAF would have ended up with if the MoD had gotten their hands on the F-18. O.o There were all the usual rumour bags concerning Su-27, F-15, etc, as replacements for the Brit F-4's. Many thanks for your reply Extra... Much appreciated Sir.
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