AERGES announces the F-104

[ThorBrasil]

23 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

hopefully not, as I’d like to finish my learning of the F1 before attempting the 104.

I bought the F-1 for the M version, but I would love to buy the F-104. Whichever comes out first, I'm happy.

[Porco Rosso]

13 ore fa, Rudel_chw ha scritto:

 

I guess we will have to wait until after the Mirage F-1M is released.

What a bad news, at least for me

[dave76]

2 hours ago, Porco Rosso said:

What a bad news, at least for me

for me too........i will stop look every day

[fausete]

hace 15 horas, ThorBrasil dijo:

I believe the F-104 comes out before the F-1M.

Hi, we are currently focusing our work on the F1 M

[ThorBrasil]

40 minutes ago, fausete said:

Hi, we are currently focusing our work on the F1 M

Thanks for this news! Whichever comes first I'm happy with. The F-104 is a sure buy!

[303_Kermit]

On 5/14/2025 at 3:42 AM, ThorBrasil said:

I bought the F-1 for the M version

First prototype flew in 1998 so... I hope it's AiM-120 or MICA equipped. Some Vertical Scan acquisition also would be nice. otherwise it's pure masochism IMHO.

Edited May 20 by 303_Kermit

[MasaMan]

2 minutes ago, 303_Kermit said:

First prototype flew in 1998 so... I hope it's AiM-120 or MICA equipped, otherwise it's pure masochism IMHO.

No new missiles on the way unfortunately...

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, 303_Kermit said:

First prototype flew in 1998 so... I hope it's AiM-120 or MICA equipped. Some Vertical Scan acquisition also would be nice. otherwise it's pure masochism IMHO.

 

clearly you would never fly something like a sabre, only the most modern stuff will do.

[303_Kermit]

On 5/20/2025 at 2:11 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 

clearly you would never fly something like a sabre, only the most modern stuff will do.

Wrong. I fly Sabre a lot, I fly MRF1 a lot - but mostly BE/CE. I never flew F-16/18/JF or any other BVR capable type. Not interested.
I like to see my target sweat and scared. See their eyes when I kill them. See they stall their F-4 when I do rolling scissors. F1M is a competitor for gen 4+ fighters. BVR is not my music, and MRF1M on servers like BF modern or Contentions modern... I can't imagine that.

... Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. And how did you ever figured out that I like modern planes more, when I just wrote, that it's the opposite?
It's just like with your MiG-21. PF/PFM/MF would be great for DCS. BISON is wasted time. 

Edited May 21 by 303_Kermit

[MiGCap1]

On 5/14/2025 at 6:17 PM, fausete said:

Hi, we are currently focusing our work on the F1 M

Bad news and bad decision. 

The F-104G would be an ideal addition to the new CW Germany map and it would for sure draw many buyers just because of the map. 

[Rudel_chw]

17 minutes ago, MiGCap1 said:

Bad news and bad decision. 

bad decision to finish one Module before starting another? Really? … that means you are OK with Modules left unfinished? … I strongly disagree, Aerges deserves all our respect for the way they develop on DCS.

[MiGCap1]

Most modules in DCS are unfinished - so what …

The F-104 will attract much more buyers than the F.1. So I would concentrate on the module which is more promising in sales.

My opinion.

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, MiGCap1 said:

Most modules in DCS are unfinished - so what …

 

but not any from Aerges .. they even redid their first Module with a fully reworked Flight Model and as a plus added a second version of it, the C-101CC, all free for their current owners, and did all of it before releasing their second Module ... a true example for other developers.

 

1 hour ago, MiGCap1 said:

The F-104 will attract much more buyers than the F.1.

 

Wonder how you can be sure of that, any users survey?  .. I like cold war birds and thus I'm sure to purchase the F-104, but the Mirage F1 has a lot going for it: 4 versions including a two seater, a more modern radar and better air-ground capability, so I wouldn't bet that the F-104 would sell in larger quantities. According to the Spudknocker's 2024 survey the Mirage F1 was owned by 20% of the users that participated on that survey (which has probably a MP bias to it).

 

1 hour ago, MiGCap1 said:

So I would concentrate on the module which is more promising in sales.

My opinion.

 

Everyone can have his own opinion, but I'm really glad that Aviodev is opting for finishing their current Module first, before focusing on the next. Anyway, I'm sure they are advancing with the 104 in parallel, so I truly expect that the 104 will appear not too long after the Mirage F1M.

 

Eduardo

[SOLIDKREATE]

21 hours ago, MiGCap1 said:

Bad news and bad decision. 

The F-104G would be an ideal addition to the new CW Germany map and it would for sure draw many buyers just because of the map. 

 

Because no one wants a finished product or this:

 

[TLTeo]

I'm pretty sure I'm one of the users that is most obsessed with an F-104, and even I want them to finish the F1 (which I greatly enjoy fwiw) first. 

[MiGCap1]

So sorry, but I am not a F.1 fanboy, actually I didn't even like it in RL.

As I said, my personal opinion. And I stick with it.

The F.1 was not a jet as widely used as the F-104. So for me it is bad news that the development of the Starfighter module was put behind. That's all.

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:48 AM by MiGCap1
Typo

[303_Kermit]

17 hours ago, MiGCap1 said:

So sorry, but I am not a F.1 fanboy, actually I didn't even like it in RL.

As I said, my personal opinion. And I stick with it.

The F.1 was not a jet as widely used as the F-104. So for me it is bad news that the development of the Starfighter module was put behind. That's all.

 

Independent from own likes and dislikes, your suggestion is against logic and fairness to guys who bought Mirage F1.

Shame yourself.

[Mainstay]

On 6/3/2025 at 4:56 PM, MiGCap1 said:

Most modules in DCS are unfinished - so what …

The F-104 will attract much more buyers than the F.1. So I would concentrate on the module which is more promising in sales.

My opinion.

I prefer the F-1M since i bought it for that version. 

[MiGCap1]

Gee, what a <profanity>storm!

And only for a post marked as personal opinion …

Are You taking the whole thing a little bit too serously perhaps? After all, DCS is only a game.

But I stay to my opinion: It would make more sense to deliver the 104 before finishing just another F.1 version. There are already three (?) variants of the F.1 flyable for the fans, but no 104.

 

[303_Kermit]

2 minutes ago, MiGCap1 said:

And only for a post marked as personal opinion …

One can't have opinion about a temperature of boiling water.

[Rudel_chw]

37 minutes ago, MiGCap1 said:

But I stay to my opinion: It would make more sense to deliver the 104 before finishing just another F.1 version. There are already three (?) variants of the F.1 flyable for the fans, but no 104.

 

I understand your logic, but I'd rather stick with my preference for finishing one item before starting another. 

[MiGCap1]

37 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

I understand your logic, but I'd rather stick with my preference for finishing one item before starting another. 

 I understand Your preference.