USA_Recon Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Looking to learn the differences of the missile types on the F1, is there a good summary anywhere ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booka42 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Hi, I would suggest the excellent Chucks guide as a starting point: https://chucksguides.com/aircraft/dcs/mirage-f1/ If you like it also check out his patreon: https://www.patreon.com/chucksguides Kind regards, Booka42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Bremspropeller Posted September 19, 2023 Solution Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) AIM-9B/J - rear aspect heaters => Seeker needs to be uncaged. AIM-9JULI - Juliet with a Lima seeker (all aspect) => Seeker needs to be uncaged. R550 Magic 1 - rear aspect heater => Seeker magically uncages itself. Eats flares like I eat éclairs. R550 Magic 2 - all aspect heater (best heater for the F1) => Seeker magically uncages itself. R530 IR - BFM* rear aspect (and limited 3-9 line capability) heater => Can only be carried on C/L station or inboard wing-stations. Use the C/L station. R530EM - BFM* all aspect Fox 1 (acts like a pitbull on a playground in a furball) => Can only be carried on C/L station or inboard wing-stations. Use the C/L station. S530F - one Fox 1 to own them all => If Jesus had a missile. That's about it. Unless Aerges decides in the future to implement the V3B or C and Python 3/ V3S missile carried by Equador and South Africa. ____ * Big Fat Momma Edited September 19, 2023 by Bremspropeller 6 1 So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanK Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) "R550 Magic 1 - rear aspect heater => Seeker magically uncages itself. Eats flares like I eat éclair" The R550 Magic 1 IRL Default mode is a 30 x 30 (+-15)auto scan with auto lock very quick and useful. (sadly Not yet implemented) This scan can be overridden and the Magic 1 put into Boresight (HOTAS press and hold 300/600m Missile unlock) mode 5 x 5 with auto lock/uncage . If the 300/600m missile unlock button is released without a seeker lock missile reverts back to 30 x 30 Autoscan The Boresight mode is the only mode currently implemented Once locked Gimbal limit is + - 30 degrees. Edited September 20, 2023 by IvanK 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sights Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I think the Papa was missed but not much different than the Julia, from what I have seen. I can’t find the sweet spot to get tone caged or uncared. The Magic’s at least give a tone. I will say so far, nothing has escaped the Super 530. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremspropeller Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, IvanK said: "R550 Magic 1 - rear aspect heater => Seeker magically uncages itself. Eats flares like I eat éclair" The R550 Magic 1 IRL Default mode is a 30 x 30 (+-15)auto scan with auto lock very quick and useful. (sadly Not yet implemented) This scan can be overridden and the Magic 1 put into Boresight (HOTAS press and hold 300/600m Missile unlock) mode 5 x 5 with auto lock/uncage . If the 300/600m missile unlock button is released without a seeker lock missile reverts back to 30 x 30 Autoscan The Boresight mode is the only mode currently implemented Once locked Gimbal limit is + - 30 degrees. That makes the missle even cooler, thanks Ivan! I guess the M2 has a similar scan pattern? 5 hours ago, Iron Sights said: I will say so far, nothing has escaped the Super 530. The Super really is super-solid. The only way to defeat it right now is kinetically, like turning cold immediately when launched upon. Don't just squeeze it off when you're getting the green dot, but wait a couple of seconds. Threat permitting. I wonder if that will still be the case with the improved radar modelling. Edited September 20, 2023 by Bremspropeller So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Recon Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) On 9/19/2023 at 9:07 AM, Booka42 said: Hi, I would suggest the excellent Chucks guide as a starting point: https://chucksguides.com/aircraft/dcs/mirage-f1/ If you like it also check out his patreon: https://www.patreon.com/chucksguides Kind regards, Booka42 I read the guide and it doesn’t have a nice breakdown at all ??? thanks to other here for actually answering the question On 9/19/2023 at 9:18 AM, Bremspropeller said: AIM-9B/J - rear aspect heaters => Seeker needs to be uncaged. AIM-9JULI - Juliet with a Lima seeker (all aspect) => Seeker needs to be uncaged. R550 Magic 1 - rear aspect heater => Seeker magically uncages itself. Eats flares like I eat éclairs. R550 Magic 2 - all aspect heater (best heater for the F1) => Seeker magically uncages itself. R530 IR - BFM* rear aspect (and limited 3-9 line capability) heater => Can only be carried on C/L station or inboard wing-stations. Use the C/L station. R530EM - BFM* all aspect Fox 1 (acts like a pitbull on a playground in a furball) => Can only be carried on C/L station or inboard wing-stations. Use the C/L station. S530F - one Fox 1 to own them all => If Jesus had a missile. That's about it. Unless Aerges decides in the future to implement the V3B or C and Python 3/ V3S missile carried by Equador and South Africa. ____ * Big Fat Momma Awesome thanks ! also, the Matra tones are deafening, does F1 have a way to turn that down ie like F-5 ? Edited September 24, 2023 by USA_Recon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Recon Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 8:10 PM, IvanK said: "R550 Magic 1 - rear aspect heater => Seeker magically uncages itself. Eats flares like I eat éclair" The R550 Magic 1 IRL Default mode is a 30 x 30 (+-15)auto scan with auto lock very quick and useful. (sadly Not yet implemented) This scan can be overridden and the Magic 1 put into Boresight (HOTAS press and hold 300/600m Missile unlock) mode 5 x 5 with auto lock/uncage . If the 300/600m missile unlock button is released without a seeker lock missile reverts back to 30 x 30 Autoscan The Boresight mode is the only mode currently implemented Once locked Gimbal limit is + - 30 degrees. Didn’t realize 300/600 missile unlock. I assume this is what nearly all other dcs jets call cage/uncage ? Wish Aerges worked on I,proving their naming for bindings . Super confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremspropeller Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, USA_Recon said: also, the Matra tones are deafening, does F1 have a way to turn that down ie like F-5 ? Check the box left to your left thigh or knee (where the red and green radio pushbuttons are). It has all the volume rheos for the TACAN, VOR, Radio and MSL tones. Edited September 24, 2023 by Bremspropeller 2 1 So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousHonza Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 7:11 PM, USA_Recon said: Didn’t realize 300/600 missile unlock. I assume this is what nearly all other dcs jets call cage/uncage ? Wish Aerges worked on I,proving their naming for bindings . Super confusing Thats how the button is called in real jet/manual too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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