SuperKungFu Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 We know that ED plugins are for 3d max 7 and 8, and let's face it that software is getting a bit outdated. So I just want to hear from you guys, which 3dmax version should the next plugin support? version 9, 2008, 2009...etc? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SuperKungFu Posted March 16, 2009 Author Posted March 16, 2009 I see a lot of people has voted for 2009, is that the current version people are running on now? Please don't pick it just because its the latest software- we want to get the vast majority. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
golfsierra2 Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 I'll stay with Max 7 and 8, outdated or not. If you invested weeks to handle it, you don't easily change to a newer version were many menues have changed - see the different Windows versions for example. And for the time being, Max 8 is doing fine for creating models for Lock-On / FC / BS. Why change ?? kind regards, Raven.... [sigpic]http://www.crc-mindreader.de/CRT/images/Birds2011.gif[/sigpic]
SuperKungFu Posted March 16, 2009 Author Posted March 16, 2009 This is for future purposes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Grimes Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Each of them are fine considering the poly tools havn't changed much in a while. I have noticed that these versions are much more stable than 7/8. Max 2009 does include the Flight Studio Plugin for free with the software. I'm not sure if its useful at any level to ED, but it does add an extra file format for import/export. So that could be a plus. Also I picked 09 because its what I have and what we use at school. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
SuperKungFu Posted March 17, 2009 Author Posted March 17, 2009 lol wow fancy school that they supplied the latest 3d max [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Dany90 Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I would like a plugin for 2009 its more stable it has more tools than older versions and I have problems when exporting for older versions. And this will happen again and again and again...
MadMaxter Posted March 18, 2009 Posted March 18, 2009 I would have to agree with Volt. Blender is a powerful imaging program and can only grow more and more versatile. It is already being looked at by the MSFS community as a replacement for Gmax. A preliminary plugin has been written for FS infact. Plus, 3ds Max is cost prohibitive in these hard economic times. Many talented modelers are denied the chance to import into games like Lockon, simply because they cannot afford ANY Max version. Blender is free and open source, which makes it beneficial to the modeler and the game company. Licensing is covered and Blender can grow, even as DCS grows to support such cool effects as bumpmapping. I use Blender. I am currently working on the following addon for MSFS. I considered putting it into LOMAC. However, it would have to be rehashed through Max and that only adds work to the model. I may do that in the future, but for now, this baby is going somewhere I can directly import it in for testing. Here it is: Note: Completely done in Blender. As you can see, the program is quite powerful and growing in popularity and capabilities. Just something to consider. Max [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Proud founder of VNAO and current deck jockey with VFA-103:pilotfly::pilotfly:
MadMaxter Posted March 21, 2009 Posted March 21, 2009 Come to think of it, there is another reason I don't like 3dsMax. They come out with a new version every year that is only slightly different than the previous version. They could have easily provided patches or addon software that did the same thing at a much more affordable rate. But every year, the latest and greatest, which is only slightly greater than the previous greatest, gets release for a whopping 3 thousand dollars. Not good. I don't like getting raped annually. Sorry, but there is a better way. Let's put some talent on getting a blender lom exporter for DCS and LOFC. Max [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Proud founder of VNAO and current deck jockey with VFA-103:pilotfly::pilotfly:
RED9R1pper Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 Hi MadMaxter, where did you find those awesome plan views with profile dimensional drawings of the F-4B % N. I'm into modelling and could defo do with future images like that for working with. Here's my current project near completion: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=40113 RED5|R1pper http://www.virtualredarrows.com [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Aeroscout Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Blender FTW DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Grimes Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 To each their own. If school taught me Maya, Softimage, or Cinema 4D I'd be suggesting them for a plugin too. But I do see your point. Honestly the more plugins the better, especially if you get one for a free app. Many more modelers would be interested in modding the game. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
MadMaxter Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Blender FTW what is FTW? Max [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Proud founder of VNAO and current deck jockey with VFA-103:pilotfly::pilotfly:
MadMaxter Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Hi MadMaxter, where did you find those awesome plan views with profile dimensional drawings of the F-4B % N. I'm into modelling and could defo do with future images like that for working with. Here's my current project near completion: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=40113 RED5|R1pper www.virtualredarrows.com Good work on that Hawk, Ripper. I pmed you the addy for the plans that I used for the Phantom. Perhaps we can help each other, since I will need some help when I export to max and begin materials, animations, and LOM export. Good luck to you. Max [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Proud founder of VNAO and current deck jockey with VFA-103:pilotfly::pilotfly:
Grimes Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 what is FTW? Max for the win. Generally means the subject of the sentence has large quantities of "epic" and "win" 1 The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
MadMaxter Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 PHEW! thought it was wtf backwards... lol Seriously though, watch for Tigrou's release of his gripen as the first example of what can be done in blender. I can't wait to see it myself. Max [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Proud founder of VNAO and current deck jockey with VFA-103:pilotfly::pilotfly:
empeck Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 It would be nice to have some kind of converter from other formats. I don't know how complicated is developement for LockOn or DCS, so I don't know if it would be possible to make an application that loads one of the standard 3d format (obj, collada, fbx...), and converts it to internal LO/DCS format. There are many people who make planes to other sims, and they just can't afford 3dsMAX, so they are using freeware and cheap alternatives like Blender, 3dCanvas, Softimage ModTool, and many more. Most of them have enough tools to make a complicated 3d models for a simulator/game. 1
luckybob9 Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Guys, dont forget that it probably took a long time and a lot of money to create the initial plugins for max. Reworking them somewhat so they work with a newer version of max is far easier that creating an entire new set of plugins from scratch. Nevada map contributer EDM Modeling tools FAQ: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1418067&postcount=1 Seo libh a chairde is chanadh liom. Líonaigí'n oíche le greann is le spórt. Seo sláinte na gcarad atá imithe uainn. Mar cheo an tsléibhe uaine, iad imithe go deo
empeck Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Guys, dont forget that it probably took a long time and a lot of money to create the initial plugins for max. Reworking them somewhat so they work with a newer version of max is far easier that creating an entire new set of plugins from scratch. I know that. But alternative 3d software may bring more modders to LO/DCS communities. There is a train simulator called Rail Simulator, it comes with 3dsMAX plugins too, but Rail Simulator devs have been working with 3dCanvas (a cheap 3d software) author on exporter, and right now you can make 3d objects (scenery, wagons and locomotives) for Rail Simulator with 3dsMAX, and 3dCanvas. It's great solution for those who can't afford 3dsMAX.
VireVolte_tigrou Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 In the same way, Condor simulator provides an exe which converts 3ds files to condor files. A good way to follow. :)
joey45 Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 im trying to get my head round blender first.... not everyone can aford these high class 3D programs. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 WOW, that Blender stuff .... I went to Amazon to check on books. There is dozens of books on Blender animation, drawings .... http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_7?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=blender+3d&sprefix=blender Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
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