2.9 DLSS checklist - great video guide

[Mr_sukebe]

19 hours ago, twistking said:

I'd dare to say that i'm speculating from a position of technical understanding. I get your argument about noise, but -to be honest- the video you posted adds more noise than our little discussion here. We are arguing about minute details, while the video is just wrong (with probably more clicks than this forum thread). Again, not a big problem, because it's not harmful advise given, but still -technically- wrong (and egregiously unscientific: i watched it again and the author never even discloses if he saw benefits from deleting the shader cache. so i assume he did not.)

By speculating from a position on technical understanding, what do you mean?

Game developer, dev for 3rd party, ED employee, Nvidia employee?

[twistking]

3 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said:

By speculating from a position on technical understanding, what do you mean?

Game developer, dev for 3rd party, ED employee, Nvidia employee?

I mean that i do have a decent technical understanding about the things discussed here. I'm not involved with ED or Nvidia, no! But shader compilation is not a phenomenon exclusive to DCS obviously, so one can make educated guesses without being an ED developer. In fact, i would cautiously argue, that i'm not speculating at all. Maybe that's semantics only, idk...

This thread established some undisputed facts about shader compilation and related, potential issues. The only speculation is why ED can't just solve that whole issue automatically with each patch and save us from future discussion like these. I'll give you that i cannot know the anwser to that, but take a look at @Art-J's post again: Automatic shader-wipe worked for a while, then broke again. Knowing ED that seems very plausible. Speculation?

Edited October 27, 2023 by twistking

[scommander2]

Please check the following video for the newer patch:

I guess that there is a long way to go for ED  

Edited October 27, 2023 by scommander2

[SharpeXB]

56 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

Please check the following video for the newer patch:

I guess that there is a long way to go for ED  

 

That’s a big laugh. A guy with a 4090 fiddling with his settings

A 4090 can run everything on max in 4K at 120 fps without resorting to DLSS or any of that silly stuff. These YouTubers are great at telling people how spin their wheels The only good advice about DLSS is to turn it off. 
I have the impression that all the 2.9 options have just resulted in mass confusion and actually result in worse graphics for lots of people. 

[twistking]

7 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

[...] I have the impression that all the 2.9 options have just resulted in mass confusion and actually result in worse graphics for lots of people. 

But then i'm sure that DLSS helped a ton of people to realize they've been running the ST built the whole time...

[SharpeXB]

21 minutes ago, twistking said:

But then i'm sure that DLSS helped a ton of people to realize they've been running the ST built the whole time...

Because it looks even more horrible?

[twistking]

18 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Because it looks even more horrible?

It does not work at all on ST. That makes it a very effective indicator.

[scommander2]

3 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

I have the impression that all the 2.9 options have just resulted in mass confusion and actually result in worse graphics for lots of people. 

Agress with 100%, and it is up the users that the new things may not be perfect as we expect (nothing personally).

[SharpeXB]

DLSS is a rather over-hyped boondoggle feature IMO. People are confused by it thinking it must improve their graphics when it’s actually the reverse. The best quality setting for DLSS is “Off”. But they turn it on and then go down a rabbit hole of trying to fix what it did (as in the OP video). Also Dynamic Learning Super Sampling isn’t super sampling, it’s upscaling. But the marketing department must not have liked the sound of DLUS. They gotta come up with tag lines like “AI to create additional frames and improve image quality.” uh you mean at the expense of image quality Where are the lawyers when you need them?

Edited October 27, 2023 by SharpeXB

[Qcumber]

49 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

DLSS is a rather over-hyped boondoggle feature IMO

With a 4090 then maybe DLSS does not do anything, but for me with a 4070 it has made a big difference in terms of quality and performance. I am very impressed.

[SharpeXB]

7 minutes ago, Qcumber said:

With a 4090 then maybe DLSS does not do anything, but for me with a 4070 it has made a big difference in terms of quality and performance. I am very impressed.

Just performance at the expense of quality. Like any other setting. It’s not a magic bullet. DCS is not that GPU hungry, I’m surprised s 4070 would need it. Ok unless you’re using VR. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by SharpeXB

[Qcumber]

4 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Just performance at the expense of quality. Like any other setting. It’s not a magic bullet. DCS is not that GPU hungry, I’m surprised s 4070 would need it. Ok unless you’re using VR. 

 

Yes. I am using VR. Sorry I should have made it clear. For me this is a real game changer. Quality and performance improvement. It shifts a huge amount of load from the GPU to the CPU. Still some wrinkles to iron out but it’s great so far. 

[SharpeXB]

7 minutes ago, Qcumber said:

It shifts a huge amount of load from the GPU to the CPU

I think you mean you’re now CPU-limited. I don’t imagine DLSS has anything to do with the CPU. 

[scommander2]

There is another good video from @Reflected (my favor author for all F-14 productions):

I understood that all his suggestions may or may not work for my environment and it is okay. It is a good learning experience how he figured out for his environment