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S-3B - incorrect AoA indexer repeater lights logic


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Hi everyone,

Minor issue - the repeater lights for the AoA indexer on the S-3B (both versions) seems to have incorrect logic.

The logic should be:

  • Green: AoA too high (slow)
  • Green + Amber: AoA slightly too high (slightly slow)
  • Amber: On-speed AoA
  • Red + Amber: AoA slightly too low (slightly fast)
  • Red: AoA too low (fast)

I'm not sure what range of AoAs are appropriate for each light, but currently, the amber light never seems to illuminate, but both red and green lights illuminate simultaneously.

The lights also don't seem to be properly driven by AoA; I've observed that the green light will come on at a lower AoA than the red light (which is the opposite of what should happen) and that different lights also overlap the same range of AoAs:

AoA: 9.2° - Green + Red:

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AoA: 10.1° - Red:

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AoA 9.2° - Green:

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Note:

  • Red light on at a higher AoA than the green light - it should be the other way around.
  • Red and green light instead of an amber light.
  • Different lights/sets of lights come on for the same AoA/range of AoAs.

Another thing that should be mentioned is that the lights are incredibly dim during the day and that the lights should come on as soon as the aircraft is in a landing configuration, but only come on until later in the approach:

 

During the day - lights barely visible, it would be easy to mistake the lights as being off were it not for the reflection on the underside of the nose:

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Quite difficult to see (a daylight shot wouldn't be useful as I can only really tell if the green light is on and I could easily mistake any other light for being off when it’s actually on) but this S-3B is indeed in landing configuration for landing on a carrier during a CASE III recovery (hook down, flaps full, gear down), but the AoA repeater lights are off - they only come on until later in the approach:

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S-3B_AoA_lights_CASE_III.trk S-3B_AoA_lights_CASE_I.trk

Edited by Northstar98
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Your attention to detail is truly remarkable mate @Northstar98

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7 hours ago, Gierasimov said:

Your attention to detail is truly remarkable mate @Northstar98

Well, that or I'm just boring 😅

Thanks though, I appreciate it!

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Flappie said:

@Northstar98 This should have been fixed in October. Can you please confirm it is fixed for you?

It looks like it has been, though a couple of days ago I could've sworn I saw some red + green light funny business going on, but I've since been unable to reproduce.

Apart from that (though I may have been seeing things it looks like, or perhaps I've properly lost my marbles), I'd say this is fixed.

Edited by Northstar98
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Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk.

Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas.

System:

GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV.

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