TeTeT's Vietnam War Vessels

[roobarbjapan]

8 hours ago, seabat said:

Unfortunately the mesh for the Seasprite textures have a lot of overlaps and a template is not available right now.  Best I can suggest is using one of the livery textures and set up a layout from those.  Folded static is being looked at but I can't even promise the standard "2 weeks".

seabat

 

 

Understood sir and thank you for your reply. 

[TeTeT]

Hello,

with the recent launch of the F-4E Phantom the mod saw less attention than in the prior weeks  Nevertheless, some progress was made:

seabat has created updated 8k liveries for the F-8 Crusader:

 

And today another break-through was finally reached with the Seasprite. It now takes-off and lands properly, at least according to some first tests:

Cheers,
TeTeT

 

[mikko.1842]

Awesome new skins for the F-8 ! No kidding, I have been flying the F-8 for some hours, just for fun. It is indeed far from an actual flyable mod, but good enough for some nice screenshots ! Thank you for your work !

[Beldin]

28 minutes ago, mikko.1842 said:

but good enough for some nice screenshots !

It should work well as an ai unit as well

[Stratos]

Great update! Love the VMFA-333 Marines skin!

[TeTeT]

Hi,

some more teaser pics by Whiplash of the upcoming skins for the F-8 and the gained ability of the H-2 in the Vietnam War Vessels 0.5.2 update:

 

 

[Stratos]

A bit of weathering on those Crusader will add a lot!

[seabat]

1 hour ago, Stratos said:

A bit of weathering on those Crusader will add a lot!

Yep, weathering is next on the list after transfer of unit markings to the new format.

seabat

[Beldin]

10 hours ago, seabat said:

Yep, weathering is next on the list after transfer of unit markings to the new format.

Stuff is looking great 

Not sure it it would work but maybe you can fake the Sono buoy launcher on the SH-2F with a texture?

Edited June 4, 2024 by Beldin

[TeTeT]

Welcome to the maintenance release 0.5.2 of the Vietnam War Vessels mod. In this update, we have made two improvements: the H-2 Seasprite can now land properly, and some F-8 Crusader liveries have been upgraded to 8k resolution. We hope you enjoy these enhancements.

As with Vietnam War Vessels 0.5.0 and 0.5.1, we now offer also a separate livery pack from the base mod. You can either download the complete zip (765 MB), or the base zip (524MB) and optionally the liveries pack (241MB).

https://github.com/tspindler-cms/tetet-vwv/releases 

[Phantom11]

Thank you for your hard work! You have fulfilled my long-held dream. We will not wait for Vietnam soon.))

[seabat]

On 6/4/2024 at 5:27 PM, Beldin said:

Stuff is looking great 

Not sure it it would work but maybe you can fake the Sono buoy launcher on the SH-2F with a texture?

 

Next update.

seabat

[TeTeT]

Hi,

work continues on the mod. Seems we've found the reason for the bda messages in the debrief, a fix still needs confirmation from testers, but it looks good so far.

The DD Maddox got a face lift for the bridge, and the windows changed to a more Vietnam era contemporary look:

 

While development is still on going, we're now testing an alpha build of an AI MiG-21MF. These screens are from a first live fire test vs US transports. Note that we're still lacking a pilot model, preferably a North Vietnamese pilot, if anyone has a model spare

 

 

Cheers,
TeTeT

[TeTeT]

Hi,

and a testing video from yesterday's build. Pilot still AWOL

 

 

[keltu123]

i think the wheel is sticking out in the mig-21...reducing wheel width might solve this

[TeTeT]

Thanks for the suggestion! We placed the wheel more inwards and it's gone in the more recent builds now. We've also changed armament and flight model slightly, so it's not a carbon copy of the MiG-21bis any longer.

[Biggus]

Having a reasonable AI Fishbed will be a game changer for me.  Thanks for making such an awesome mod!

[Woogey]

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On 6/13/2024 at 1:49 AM, Biggus said:

Having a reasonable AI Fishbed will be a game changer for me.  Thanks for making such an awesome mod!

 

What is wrong with the existing MiG-21 from Leatherneck (for Ai)?  I was hoping Tetet’s 21 would be an early variant like The MiG-21F pictured here.  

[Biggus]

43 minutes ago, Woogey said:

What is wrong with the existing MiG-21 from Leatherneck (for Ai)?  I was hoping Tetet’s 21 would be an early variant like The MiG-21F pictured here.  

 

It isn't quite as bad as the MiG-15 but it can certainly behave rather UFO-like.  It's pretty well documented elsewhere, I'd rather not derail the thread.

A -21F would certainly be a welcome addition in my book.

[TeTeT]

Hi,

The MiG-21F-13 was high on my wishlist as well, but for now we go with the MiG-21MF variant, as the model looks more like an MF than an F-13. There's nothing wrong with the MiG-21bis for me, it's just that it arrived in Vietnam in 1977, too late for the Vietnam War. Right now the SFM is based on the MiG-21bis, but this is still subject to change.

@Biggus can you point me to the thread were the shortcomings of the MiG-21bis are highlighted? Maybe it's valuable to our efforts here.

Cheers,
TeTeT

[Biggus]

Here's a recent example:

One of the solutions that some have resorted to are to add weight via scripting in the mission editor.  I haven't tested this myself yet, it's on my list of things to experiment with.

[TeTeT]

Ah, thanks for sharing! In the current testing these problems won't be detected, as I let AI F-4 and F-8 fight with AI MiG-21MF and check if the results are believable. As the advantage AI pilots have in DCS seems to be generic, it's suddenly a level playing field of AI vs AI again. 

I guess matching the SFM up with the EFM used by a player aircraft is simply impossible. The EFM can attribute many more factors in calculating the planes performance than the lua table based SFM. If you find an easy work around, would be great to hear if adding weight is such a solution.

Cheers,
TeTeT

[Citizen]

19 hours ago, TeTeT said:

Ah, thanks for sharing! In the current testing these problems won't be detected, as I let AI F-4 and F-8 fight with AI MiG-21MF and check if the results are believable. As the advantage AI pilots have in DCS seems to be generic, it's suddenly a level playing field of AI vs AI again. 

I guess matching the SFM up with the EFM used by a player aircraft is simply impossible. The EFM can attribute many more factors in calculating the planes performance than the lua table based SFM. If you find an easy work around, would be great to hear if adding weight is such a solution.

Cheers,
TeTeT

I frequently add some weight to the MiG-21Bis to calm the AI down, either by forcing it to keep fuel tanks or by adding cargo weight.

[EA-18G_BlockII]

On 6/15/2024 at 8:59 AM, TeTeT said:

Hi,

The MiG-21F-13 was high on my wishlist as well, but for now we go with the MiG-21MF variant, as the model looks more like an MF than an F-13. There's nothing wrong with the MiG-21bis for me, it's just that it arrived in Vietnam in 1977, too late for the Vietnam War. Right now the SFM is based on the MiG-21bis, but this is still subject to change.

@Biggus can you point me to the thread were the shortcomings of the MiG-21bis are highlighted? Maybe it's valuable to our efforts here.

Cheers,
TeTeT

I prefer the F-13 variant too, fits better with 1967-68 VN Air War scenario

[Stratos]

We all prefer the F13, but is often a matter of what the modder can get. I'm sure they haven't found any F13 or PFM 3d models yet.