Heiliger Bimbam Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Hi, I'm a bit confused. I've tested 2xAA, 8xAA and finaly 24x edge-detect antialiazing and BS runs always with 35 to 45 fps (all settings high, mirrors off, shadows all planar, water normal). Just on my PC (2x3200 AMD, ATI 4850 1GB, 2GB RAM), or is this a known "feature"? Jay [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GregP Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Well, this may be a dumb question, but are you certain it's actually applying the settings in-game? i.e. have you taken screenshots and then compared them outside the game? With Nvidia's Control Panel, you have to point the drivers to the "DCS.exe" in order to have it "take" the AA/AF settings - using the "launcher.exe" will not do anything, as that is just the GUI.
AlphaInfinity Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 And you have to tell it to "override" the application setting. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] |Core i7 5820k@3.8ghz|ASUS X99 Deluxe mobo|16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 2666|EVGA GTX980 SLI | 4x500GB Samsung PRO SSD|Corsair RM1000 GOLD|Track IR5|5x LG 27inch LCD| Windows 8.1 PRO
Heiliger Bimbam Posted March 24, 2009 Author Posted March 24, 2009 Oh, where can I point the settings to the DCS.exe? I thought that changes in the control center effect every 3D application, that launches after the settings are done and applied. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Distiler Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 It might mean that your cpu is slow compared to the gpu and this can do a lot more for each cycle of the cpu, but can't make the game run "faster" (just nicer) because it must to wait for cpu calculations to advance each frame. AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2
AlphaInfinity Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Oh, where can I point the settings to the DCS.exe? I thought that changes in the control center effect every 3D application, that launches after the settings are done and applied. Here ya go: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] |Core i7 5820k@3.8ghz|ASUS X99 Deluxe mobo|16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 2666|EVGA GTX980 SLI | 4x500GB Samsung PRO SSD|Corsair RM1000 GOLD|Track IR5|5x LG 27inch LCD| Windows 8.1 PRO
Mustang Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 BTW guys, you do know that he is not using an nV card?
Heiliger Bimbam Posted March 24, 2009 Author Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Right. ATI 4850 1GB and I can't find a way to assign settings to a special application like the DCS.exe Maybe the changes in AA won't lower the FPS because my CPU (2x3200) is the bottle neck? Edited March 24, 2009 by Heiliger Bimbam [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
PoleCat Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I would be quite sure that ATI CCC would also have a way to apply application specific profiles. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
GregP Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I would be quite sure that ATI CCC would also have a way to apply application specific profiles. Out Exactly, that's what I was implying. Heiliger Bimbam, what resolution are you running? Unless it's something like 800x600, applying any AA at all ought to have a noticeable effect on framerate. So if you're not seeing anything, I'd guess it's not actually being applied.
Maximus_G Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Right. ATI 4850 1GB and I can't find a way to assign settings to a special application like the DCS.exe Maybe the changes in AA won't lower the FPS because my CPU (2x3200) is the bottle neck? The AA is not working in your case. I'd put a dollar on it... because i have a 4850, and AA doesn't work for me either (in DCS)! :D If you want to check it - start a mission which begins with a static scene (in cockpit on the ground for example) - and make a screenshot. Then exit the game, make changes in CCC and make another screenshot. Compare both and draw a conclusion :)
Heiliger Bimbam Posted March 25, 2009 Author Posted March 25, 2009 I'll test it on Thursday. My girlfriend is getting angry, seems I have to drop a visit. "You're always playing that nerdish helicopter bullshit blah blah..." Women... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
KillaALF Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Why does everybody think AA is not applied in his case? Black Shark is 100% CPU-bound on any halfway recent graphics card and at pretty much any quality settings. I’m running at 1600x1200 on my 4870 and there is not a single frame dropped going from no AA/AF to 4xAA/16xAF. And yes, I can tell if AA is active or not - I might not be able to see a difference going from 4xAA to 8xAA (hence I’m not using it), but no AA to 4xAA is like night and day.
hitman Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 ^^^Spammer above Why does everybody think AA is not applied in his case? Black Shark is 100% CPU-bound on any halfway recent graphics card and at pretty much any quality settings. I’m running at 1600x1200 on my 4870 and there is not a single frame dropped going from no AA/AF to 4xAA/16xAF. And yes, I can tell if AA is active or not - I might not be able to see a difference going from 4xAA to 8xAA (hence I’m not using it), but no AA to 4xAA is like night and day.Some video cards are pretty good at AA, you wont even notice a performance hit either way. On some, if you turn AA to 16, youll get better fps. If you lower your screen resolution, Ill bet youll see a performance difference between the 2.
PoleCat Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 ^^^^ Agree. Particularly true on most of the newer cards at high resolutions, ATI or Nvidia. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
hannibal Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 polecat is alive!!! find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
-Nighthawk- Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 AA works perfectly for me on my HD4850 The ATI HD4xxx handles AA extremely well compared to Nvidia cards, all of my games are maxed out through CCC and barely a FPS drop.
Marder Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 even on my older card it does not matter if you turn aa on or off. maybe i get 1 frame less or so... MB: Intel DX79TO; Core i7 3820 (3,6 ghz); SPU: Asus Xonar D2X; GPU: AMD XFX 7970 BE OC (3GB); RAM: Kingston 8 GB DDR3-1333 Quad-Kit; HHDs: G.Skill Phoenix SSD (for OS&DCS), WD 1 TB + WD 160GB; PSU: be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 550W; Display: EIZO Foris 2333-BK; OS: WIN8 Pro 64bit (latest updates); TM HOTAS Warthog; CH Rudder pedals; Cougar MFDs; iPad Mini with iControl DCS; TrackIR4 + TrackClipPro. A10 startup procedure -->
connos Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 AA in this game is working fine with ATI. All settings tested. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ASUS M4A79 Deluxe, AMD Phenom II X4 940@3.5GHz, ATI 6870 1GB, Windows 7 64bit, Kingstone HyperX 4GB, 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB, Asus Xonar DX Sound Card, Saitek X52 PRO, TrackIR 44: Pro.
KaBoom Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 If graphic changes dont effect FPS then its the CPU or Ram speed bottlenecking.
nerves Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 I've notice a small difference when I go from 4AA to 8AA. I gain about 2-3 FPS in 4AA. (38-41 FPS @ 1900x1200 60hz) CPU load stay's just below 30% during flight, regardless. AMD 710 (NO OC) with 6 gig ddr3 (1066) on vista 64.
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