Elf1606688794 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 On 2/4/2024 at 12:32 PM, Kirk66 said: pretty much a direct quote from the aircraft weapons TO. Do you recall the number of that T.O.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf1606688794 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 On 2/7/2024 at 12:54 PM, Whirley said: The section about "Anti-G suit control valve" mentions "crewman" which could be gendered to something neutral like crew. https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/cockpit/pilot/left_console/aft_section.html#anti-g-suit-control-valve That wouldn't be historically accurate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabuzard Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Thanks for the report. This will be a 2 second job to adjust and if it prevents some people from feeling unpleasent reading it, why not. Not a problem at all :) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 10 ED Team Share Posted February 10 Folks if you want to have a social discussion take it to another forum. It is not welcome here. If it continues I will hand out warnings. Please continue to discuss the Manual. thank you 14 6 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) Landing gear emergency extension handles https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/flight_controls_gear/gear_ground_handling.html#landing-gear-emergency-extension-handles Minor typo or structure issue with the "...is...is...". "The emergency extension is commanded in the front cockpit is performed using the Gear Control Handle..." Edited February 10 by Whirley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sights Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 The manual looks really good so far. Keep up the great work! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Fuel boost system https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/engines_and_fuel_systems/fuel_system.html#fuel-boost-system "The pumps are installed at the bottom of the tank to provide fuel in the event of a negative G excursion." This could be confusing to some as to why/how this works without additional information. Edited February 13 by Whirley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf1606688794 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/10/2024 at 2:05 AM, BIGNEWY said: Folks if you want to have a social discussion take it to another forum. It is not welcome here. If it continues I will hand out warnings. Please continue to discuss the Manual. thank you My apologies for the post I made after this one. I didn't see this until after I made my post and edited it and in retrospect I should have deleted my post as soon as I saw this and in not doing so I made your job harder. I regret my inaction in this matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtPappy Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 7 hours ago, Elf1606688794 said: My apologies for the post I made after this one. I didn't see this until after I made my post and edited it and in retrospect I should have deleted my post as soon as I saw this and in not doing so I made your job harder. I regret my inaction in this matter. I'm just as guilty except unlike you, I pushed my luck. Apologies to both you and everyone else who was abiding by the rules. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKermit Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Could anyone please elaborate on the correct Stab. Augmentation setting for dogfighting? Can all axis stay on or should some of them be deactivated? Didn’t read anything about it in the manual… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 8 hours ago, SuperKermit said: correct Stab. Augmentation setting for dogfighting? As far as I understand, same as the F-14 - for the very same reasons. Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Gigabyte RX6900XT | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | HP Reverb G2 Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2+3 base / CM2 x2 grip with 200 mm S-curve extension + CM3 throttle + CP2/3 + FSSB R3L + VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS "HIGH" preset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Antenna roll vs roll stabilization https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/radar/interface.html#polarization-control This section mentions the antenna not being "roll stabilized", in this case meaning unable to roll itself. "However, because the antenna is not roll stabilized increased return intensity may be seen when rolling the aircraft." In later sections like https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/radar/general_operation.html#nor the antenna is then said to be roll stabilized. "the antenna is stabilized in pitch and roll to the horizon" This could confuse some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/radar/general_operation.html#pulse-setting Typo in the info box "force the pule setting into SHORT.". Edited February 15 by Whirley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/defensive_systems/radar_warning_receiver.html#s-search Possibly missing space after dash. "...for extended range detection and tracking of possible intruders- ie, the F-4." And possibly missing "it" for "it is" "Because of their low threat priority, is important to note that..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/defensive_systems/ecm.html#electronic-countermeasure Extra "a" "...to be loaded on a some specific pylons." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/defensive_systems/ecm.html#controls Extra "s", "some jammers" or "some jammer models". "Some jammers models..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/emergency.html#fire-test-button Possible typo overhead/overheat "...performance of the fire and overhead warning systems." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirley Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/emergency.html#command-selector-valve-handle Typo "instrument handle/panel" "...above the rear cockpit instrument handle is the Command Selector Valve Handle." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HB_Painter Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Thanks everyone for the reports! It is much appreciated and they should be all fixed by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadupleix Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 In 2.1.4 Flight Director Group - Reference System Selector Switch: >>Rapid turns (above 15° per minute) may temporarily disrupt accurate heading information, requiring straight and level flight for about 20 seconds for manual compass system synchronization (SYNC position) Should it be 15 degree/sec or minute? If it's 15deg/min I'd imagine my heading information to never be accurate lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) The introductory video at the 0:34 mark says that Heatblur's "vanilla" F-4E is the 45-MC. According to the game manual, the aircraft simulated has a maximum internal fuel of 12896 lbs: Tanks - Heatblur F-4E Phantom II According to TO 1F-4E-1, 1 Feb 1979, p. 1-12 (attached), the maximum usable internal fuel of Block 41+ aircraft is 12058 lbs; the 12896 lbs is correct for Blocks up to 40. Also, the manual mentions 315-gal wing tanks here: Engines & Fuel Systems - Heatblur F-4E Phantom II. I have no record of 315-gal wing tanks being used on the F-4E and I suppose 370-gal is meant here as on the other page of the manual linked above. Edited March 2 by Stickler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf1606688794 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Yeah, the wing tanks were 370 gallons and the centerline was 600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabuzard Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 > "vanilla" F-4E is the 45-MC This is a placeholder line. Best is to not take it literally yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattag08 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) On 2/25/2024 at 2:20 AM, vadupleix said: In 2.1.4 Flight Director Group - Reference System Selector Switch: >>Rapid turns (above 15° per minute) may temporarily disrupt accurate heading information, requiring straight and level flight for about 20 seconds for manual compass system synchronization (SYNC position) Should it be 15 degree/sec or minute? If it's 15deg/min I'd imagine my heading information to never be accurate lol This still doesn't look fixed. Also, it would be nice if the second half of the sentence could be expanded upon. It is currently very oddly worded. Does it require the compass mode selector knob SYNC position to be used? Even a link to 2.10.1.3 of the document would help. (It's also missing a period at the end of the sentence.) Also the page break is in an odd spot. It does not seem that this sentence is directly related to the sentence above relating to the change in ADI source data when going from PRIM to STBY. I would move "When transitioning between STBY and PRIM, immediate attitude information may show unusual gyrations on the attitude director indicator due to initial erection" up to the previous paragraph where it makes more sense. If it is meant to be included with the statement about synchronization, then more detail is needed, because it there isn't enough information to understand how those two sentences are linked. If this works similar to the F-14, I would rephrase the last sentence as: "Rapid turns (above 15° per second) may temporarily disrupt accurate heading information, requiring the pilot to perform a manual synchronization of the ADI. Manual synchronization is performed by flying straight and level flight for approximately 20 seconds while holding the Compass Mode Selector Knob in the SYNC position (it is spring loaded to SLAVED). This information also feels a little out of place since it delves into systems and 2.1 seems to be more of an overview of the cockpit. Edited March 13 by mattag08 Flying the DCS: F-14B from Heatblur Simulations with Carrier Strike Group 2 and the VF-154 Black Knights! I also own: Ka-50 2, A-10C, P-51D, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, FC3, F-86F, CA, Mig-15bis, Mig-21bis, F/A-18C, L-39, F-5E, AV-8B, AJS-37, F-16C, Mig-19P, JF-17, C-101, and CEII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattag08 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) RE: 4.3.1.1 AGM-45 Shrike This entire section on the AGM-45 is very confusing owing to various bits of information being out of place or ambiguously worded. Having read the whole section, I believe I've puzzled out how the system works, but a complete rewrite where step-by-step instructions are given would be much more appropriate given the complexity of the system. For the WRCS\Pull-up section, Quote Pull-up The Pull-up command light indicates that the aircraft is at some range where the Pull-up maneuver must be flown to get a release signal. After pickle and with the indexer light indicating Pull-up, the Pull-up instruction is guidance for the pilot to initiate a steady rotation back to the horizon, and, if desired, continue into a steady climb state until range requirements are met and the missile is launched. The pilot can choose to either bring the aircraft to near level and stop, or pull further into a low climb profile. When the aircraft is approximately 5 seconds away from release, the level indicator will illuminate, directing the pilot to maintain the current orientation until the Shrike is away. The last sentence is out of order and thus confusing. It should be placed after sentence #1. Combining the changed sentence with a more instructional method I would rewrite/reformat the whole section as: "To perform an AGM-45 attack in WCRS mode: 1. Select WRCS mode to AGM-45 and press an arming station select button for a hardpoint carrying an AGM-45. 2. WSO should enter a target altitude into the computer control panel (if the target altitude is unknown, use a mean value for the current target area). If multiple missiles are to be launched, enter a release advance time setting. 3. Place the TGT/MSL Rej switch in DF REJ, unless <reason for selecting NORM?>. The ADI will provide steering guidance. The HSI and BDHI will indicate target range (INS navigation mode only). 4. When the aircraft orientation is correct (ADI needles centered) and the target is within range one of the indexer lights will illuminate based on the required release maneuver. At this time the pilot can press and hold the bomb release button to initiate the attack. The possible maneuvers are as follows: 4a. Level - Indicates a confirmation of impending launch. The level signal may immediately occur or only appear after a pull-up or dive maneuver obtains the necessary attitude for missile launch. 4b. Pull-up - Indicates the aircraft is at a range where a pull-up maneuver is required. Fly a pull-up maneuver until the level indexer light is illuminated, then maintain that pitch attitude for missile launch. 4c. Dive - Indicates the aircraft is very close to the target. Follow the dive command until the level indexer light is illuminated, then maintain that pitch attitude until missile launch. NOTE: When dive is indicated the situation and proximity to the SAM installation must be considered prior to attack commitment. An enemy SAM launched at close range will likely arrive before the missile can kill the emitter. 5. Recovery maneuver - After missile launch the missile guides using internal sensors without any input from the launch aircraft. The launch aircraft can maneuver freely to evade enemy attack or terrain as necessary." (Feel free to copy this word for word to whatever extent desired, I'm not looking to copywrite anything above.) Edited March 13 by mattag08 1 1 Flying the DCS: F-14B from Heatblur Simulations with Carrier Strike Group 2 and the VF-154 Black Knights! I also own: Ka-50 2, A-10C, P-51D, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, FC3, F-86F, CA, Mig-15bis, Mig-21bis, F/A-18C, L-39, F-5E, AV-8B, AJS-37, F-16C, Mig-19P, JF-17, C-101, and CEII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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