Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 11 Posted September 11 On 9/10/2025 at 11:46 AM, Roughmaster said: a bit lacking Quite the understatement Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 25H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
swartbyron Posted September 11 Posted September 11 (edited) Our F-16 3D model and textures are really showing their age compared to the latest modules. Some still feel we have a rushed and unfinished product on the artwork and 3D side of things. I hope that the reluctance to include community liverys is a sign that work is being done in house to improve things. Edited September 11 by swartbyron
Cydrych Posted September 11 Posted September 11 11 hours ago, swartbyron said: Our F-16 3D model and textures are really showing their age compared to the latest modules. Some still feel we have a rushed and unfinished product on the artwork and 3D side of things. I hope that the reluctance to include community liverys is a sign that work is being done in house to improve things. I doubt it. There are still numerous model errors and the rear cockpit is untextured. We've been asking for years to get it updated and nothing has come of it. Just a few weeks ago the F-16 was deemed feature complete and left early access so I doubt ED will go back and fix it now. Upgrading the model and textures for a released module that most people already have won't make them money. The shiny new modules like Mig-29, F-15C, and F-35 will. Hell, look at the hornet. It has model and texture issues noted since early access almost 8 years later. Most of the textures are low resolution too. It needs updated more than the F-16 but neither will likely be fixed until ED sells a paid remaster for the F-16 and F-18 v2.0 3
swartbyron Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, Cydrych said: Hell, look at the hornet. It has model and texture issues noted since early access almost 8 years later. Most of the textures are low resolution too. It needs updated more than the F-16 but neither will likely be fixed until ED sells a paid remaster for the F-16 and F-18 v2.0 Its a real shame that at least the texturing cant be finished and brought up to at least the same standards as what the community is producing. Especially if the 99% work is already done and offered by the community for free. I would would be more than happy to pay for a F-5E style update if that's the way ED prefer to go. Edited September 12 by swartbyron 2
Mach3DS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Be careful what you wish for. If they were to update the model and the textures, they would almost certainly encrypt them both. Which would make the Viper essentially inaccessible for community textures and liveries for the most part. Let's hope they never update it. 4 MACH 3 DESIGN STUDIO Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Mach3DS said: Be careful what you wish for. I think it's safe to say we wish for ED to deliver on their promises, and what's listed on the store page: The most realistic model of the F-16C imaginable, down to each bolt and flake of paint, animated controls surfaces, lights, damage model, and landing gear. 3 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 25H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Mach3DS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 4 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: I think it's safe to say we wish for ED to deliver on their promises, and what's listed on the store page: The most realistic model of the F-16C imaginable, down to each bolt and flake of paint, animated controls surfaces, lights, damage model, and landing gear. I don't use any of the default stuff anyway. So, for the most part all the "missing" stuff is not missing anymore. So much work has been done that it's basically that way. 2 MACH 3 DESIGN STUDIO Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™
fagulha Posted September 15 Posted September 15 20 minutes ago, Mach3DS said: I don't use any of the default stuff anyway. So, for the most part all the "missing" stuff is not missing anymore. So much work has been done that it's basically that way. Same here. I only fly with user created liveries (including the ones created by you), and some liveries that i edit with more details and stuff for private use. About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz With Thermal Grizzly CPU Frame | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Tough Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) On 9/15/2025 at 11:18 PM, Mach3DS said: I don't use any of the default stuff anyway Neither do I, but surely you see that was not the point. A product was sold based on promises made (what’s listed on the product page), and those promises were not kept or only partially kept. The default F-16 looks like a plastic toy, at best. Anyway, I didn’t mean to start up that entire discussion again. There are already other threads about it… Edited Monday at 08:03 AM by Raven (Elysian Angel) Grammar 2 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 25H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Rufnax Posted Monday at 08:00 AM Posted Monday at 08:00 AM Am 10.9.2025 um 02:46 schrieb Delta134: @lee1hy I asked @Wags about this on his Part 1 video of the Sniper pod: "Hey Wags, great to see the Sniper coming together! I'm looking forward to it! In February 2024 you asked users to submit liveries to be included by default for the F-16C. lee1hy was chosen to deliver these. It has been a while, what is the status on this project?" "Given the strong, negative feedback, we decided to hold off on that." Very sad to see there is such poor communication between ED and the community members who have put so much effort into their liveries. It's outrageous those involved weren't informed they decided to cancel it altogether. what strong negative feedback he talking about? Afaik most users would welcome some fresh and high detailed liverys.
razo+r Posted Tuesday at 08:49 AM Posted Tuesday at 08:49 AM On 11/10/2025 at 9:00 AM, Rufnax said: what strong negative feedback he talking about? Afaik most users would welcome some fresh and high detailed liverys. Read this topic. I think there are some hidden/deleted posts but some are still here. 1
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