fixed Latest Oculus v63 PTC build crashing DCS when used on Oculus Link

[MRMAN]

100% Not buying another module for a very long time. I mean, at this point, this issue is just absurd. I haven’t been able to use DCS for almost 2 months. I wanted to fly the F-4 when it’s released but how can I trust that I’ll actually get to use that $80 module when I want to? I can’t. Trust is a fragile thing, and ED has taken a hammer to it. 

ED 2025 and Beyond: “Thanks for all the support, loyalty, and trust”

Save it. That’s long gone from this customer

[BIGNEWY]

1 minute ago, MRMAN said:

100% Not buying another module for a very long time. I mean, at this point, this issue is just absurd. I haven’t been able to use DCS for almost 2 months. I wanted to fly the F-4 when it’s released but how can I trust that I’ll actually get to use that $80 module when I want to? I can’t. Trust is a fragile thing, and ED has taken a hammer to it. 

ED 2025 and Beyond: “Thanks for all the support, loyalty, and trust”

Save it. That’s long gone from this customer

Sorry you feel that way, I hope one day we can meet your expectations again and you can again enjoy DCS. 

best regards 

bignewy

[minimi66]

Some guy commented this morning on one of my posts on a DCS Facebook group saying that the well-known (now) Reddit VR Splash crash fix wasn't working any more.

Well, i'm in DCS VR right now with zero issues on Oculus Link v62 (installed the fix yesterday) so for me at least it is still playable with exact same settings and performance as prior to the bug showing up on my PC.

Fully understand that many have tried this fix and it hasn't worked, but maybe if you haven't its worth a few minutes to give it a go?

Hope those that are still struggling find a fix as soon as possible.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dcsworld/comments/1bnspf6/recent_oculus_vr_bug_fix/

If you try or re-try the Reddit fix above and still have issues, please be sure to read ALL the comments below the Reddit OP's initial instructions.  It didn't work for me initially but i soon (after like an hour!!!) realised i had made 2 separate mistakes in following the OP instructions and also the later comments by others who had issues with the fix. Doh!!

For instance back up your entire v63 Program Files\Oculus folder BEFORE you copy any of DookieShoes files over as a precaution. 

You will need the v63 "app.asar" file from the v63 Program Files > Oculus > Support > oculus-client > resources folder AFTER you copy the Reddit files over.

Also be aware that when you unzip Dookie's archives they can create double folders (a folder within the unzipped folder with the exact same name.) Make sure you copy the FILES directly into the v63 folders and overwrite or replace etc.

I understand that despite all the above it still might not work for some unlucky folks but worth a try maybe?  Hope this helps, best of luck.

[Crabfat22]

It isn't your fault BIGNEWY, we know that. Thanks for the updates so far. 

[adam34aus]

1 hour ago, Shibiswag said:

You don't need a trackIR. Just go buy a cheap 15-20$ webcam if and use Opentrack + Aitrack. No need for LED or anything.
Well, I'm sorry but their venting sounds like that of a spoiled child that is crying that they can't get what they want when they want it.
There is a good reason, it's because for #1, they have to coordinate with Meta to get the underlying problem fixed.
#2, Coding takes a very long time, it's not like they can go into one line and change something and than go okay fixed.
That's what a lot of people fail to understand who want to complain but don't know how programming. works.
I myself don't know that much about it, but having done some I can tell you it's not as easy as they think it is.
#3. They are releasing it with a bigger patch, which means everything has to work inside and out.
If people don't want to play or find an alternative to play, or just play something else until it's released than yeah that's on them.
I just don't find coming on and crying is going to do anything to resolve it, seems just very immature childish behavior.
If people are that annoyed and that impatient. Then this is the last place they should come to "vent"
 

 

Then play in 2D or go play something else.
You guys can complain all you want it's not going to make it come any faster.

Spent thousands to play on VR solely for this game alone and its the only game I play. Id never go back to 2D. 7 weeks to fix a issue is extremely poor

 

Edited April 4, 2024 by adam34aus

[chicken_george]

Just adding a +1 to a broken DCS with VR Quest3 and airing my disappointment that it's not been fixed.

I'm not buying that it couldn't have been fixed already in 6weeks. That's my opinion and I don't care for any argumentative response.

I'm hoping ED take note of all the people affected and change they way the approach bug fixing in the future. I'll not hold by breath. It's a captive market to which people are locked into....

I'm new to DCS and was affected by the V63 update. I refuse to download some random files from a google drive that haven't been verified aren't malicious. And even with WiFi 6 couldn't get VD to run as good as a link cable, so have gone down the Steam route, still using OTT and a FoV multiplier reduction. It's one extra step, but I'll take it.

[minimi66]

13 minutes ago, chicken_george said:

Just adding a +1 to a broken DCS with VR Quest3 and airing my disappointment that it's not been fixed.

I'm not buying that it couldn't have been fixed already in 6weeks. That's my opinion and I don't care for any argumentative response.

I'm hoping ED take note of all the people affected and change they way the approach bug fixing in the future. I'll not hold by breath. It's a captive market to which people are locked into....

I'm new to DCS and was affected by the V63 update. I refuse to download some random files from a google drive that haven't been verified aren't malicious. And even with WiFi 6 couldn't get VD to run as good as a link cable, so have gone down the Steam route, still using OTT and a FoV multiplier reduction. It's one extra step, but I'll take it.

I feel your pain man but i have had the google drive files on my system for 6 days and having scanned them with Zone Alarm Pro they are clean as a whistle.  As far as i'm aware a LOT of guys have downloaded them up to now and i haven't seen a single post either here or anywhere else saying they've had any virus or other integrity problems with them.

After a couple of minor mistakes from not reading the instructions carefully that Reddit fix solved my v63 VR crash issue and its running perfectly right now.

But its everyone's choice i guess.  Sadly Steam and Virtual Desktop have always been terrible for me and i will never choose them over  Link Cable if i have that option.

Hope you get fixed up soon.

[Tomcat388th]

16 minutes ago, chicken_george said:

I'm not buying that it couldn't have been fixed already in 6weeks.

I have to agree with you here  . Even though this is not ED's fault they screwed the pooch here.  If the Oculus update had messed it up to where no one could purchase mods and such this would of been fixed in the first week. Even though there are work arounds, the meta dcs community got hung out to dry.  But on the bright side I have been really happy with how DCS performs now on my system and can only hope that it keeps improving

J

[draconus]

42 minutes ago, adam34aus said:

Spent thousands to play on VR solely for this game alone and its the only game I play.

So either play (what's stopping you?) or go to support for a refund.

2 hours ago, Shibiswag said:

Coding takes a very long time, it's not like they can go into one line and change something and than go okay fixed.

Sometimes all it takes is just that. A single line or even a char - fixed.

[jeventy26]

If the Reddit fix is not working... try uninstalling your desktop Oculus and then reinstall.  Then follow same "fix" instructions.  This worked for me after seeing someone else try it.

[Bluto74]

Ok.  Here is the deal.

I am :
1.  A long time loyal DCS and strong advocator for people to invest in this game.
2.  Affected by the current issue.
3,  A professional in the world of customer service

First and foremost, consumers of a product have the right to voice concerns and complaints on goods and services.  That is a liability a manufacturer assumes when they offer a product.  Yes, it is always best when it can be done in a civil manner,  and should always be the case.  But emotions can all run high.  And degrading the level of the issue to the plaintiff is not fair or the correct way to handle issues.  It is impossible to interpret how important one thing is to another.

Second, as much as the ranting bothers some, it should be noted that replys from non official ED personnel is also not who these customers want to hear from.  It inflates this post as much as the unnecessary complaining.  Your input is appreciated on how to get things working.  But others are not constructive to the matter.

Third.  A huge thanks to BigNewy for keeping us informed.  I do not envy you at all, but do appreciate you.

Fourth.  The fix can get you by if done correctly.  Not optimal but does work.  Not in all situations but with the fix I was able to slide up the pixel density slider to a good value for me and can fly a few planes on the Caucus map with little issue.  Hope that helps some.  We will be there soon gang.  Hang in there.

 

Edited April 4, 2024 by Bluto74

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

51 minutes ago, jeventy26 said:

If the Reddit fix is not working... try uninstalling your desktop Oculus and then reinstall.  Then follow same "fix" instructions.  This worked for me after seeing someone else try it.

Same here, Oculus Desktop not even in public beta, roll back, do a bunch of renaming, happy again.

Why am I still following this thread? Dunno. Well, both popcorns and peanuts come in sweet, salty or both.

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

10 hours ago, draconus said:

No, it does not mean that.

Thank you for clarifying! My worry meter has gone down.

@BIGNEWY Can you confirm that the merge of Beta and Stable does not necessarily mean that hotfixes are out of the question for any future issues?

 

Edited April 4, 2024 by II.JG1_Vonrd

[Shibiswag]

8 hours ago, adam34aus said:

Spent thousands to play on VR solely for this game alone and its the only game I play. Id never go back to 2D. 7 weeks to fix a issue is extremely poor

 

 

Well no one told you to do that #1. Also buying 1 thing for the sole purpose of playing 1 game... so that sounds more of a "you" problem than anything else.
I'm going to go on a limb and say you have no experience in computer programming, if I'm wrong than so be it.
So not really right for everyone to keep saying ED is doing a "extremely poor to fix an issue" when 98-99% of people on here don't know anything about programming
Now, everyone has a right to complain yes. 
Though once the issue has been addressed that they know that the patch has been delayed, it does no one any good to come on and continue to at this point, which it seems is to insult the developers saying they're not doing a good job just because people want to act like spoiled children crying because they can't get what they want when they want it.
Would you rather them release the patch now and something else breaks because everyone is being that impatent.
It's your choice to not play the game in an alternative way, and that is 100% your choice. 
Though coming on and just like I stated earlier saying that ED is not doing a good job when you obviously again, if I'm wrong I apologize but seem to know nothing at all when it comes to programming. 

I myself know only very little, not enough to help sadly otherwise I would gladly offer it.
But what I do know it is very, very, difficult, and that's just to write simple programs with under 100 lines of code.
You're talking a full-on game, which has 1000's if not 100,000's if not more line of code.

@BIGNEWY has done an excellent job at keeping us updated on everything that has been going on, and I'm sure the programmers that are handling this are doing the best they can to make sure not only #1 that the patch fixes it, but to make sure it doesn't cause any issues with all the other things that are coming out.

Let me put this into perspective for you.
Let's say they released the hotfix, okay, it fixed it, then they released the main patch, but the hotfix caused a coding error in the patch and the game is back to being broken, making you have to wait again for a patch to fix that patch.
Would you come back on and say: "Well ED should have made sure the hotfix didn't break anything else before they released the patch, they did an extremely poor job"?
Because I'm 100% certain that's what everyone would have done than they would of said "ED should have released the hotfix with the patch to make sure everything worked"
Which is EXACTLY what they are doing.
I'd rather wait for something knowing it's completely fixed and working rather than have it now and something else get's broken within a week.
So with that being said here are your options:
#1 Wait
#2 Wait some more
#3 Maybe find another game you can play in VR while you wait.
#4 Get a refund on DCS and sell your VR.

I understand from a logical point, yeah it's frustrating to not be able to do something that you have invested a lot of money into.
But golden rule of life for anything and even gaming, NEVER PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET.
 

Edited April 4, 2024 by Shibiswag

[Grodin]

21 hours ago, Qcumber said:

You might be right but we don't have the data.There are people who are affected by the issue and those that are not. I would like to see hard numbers and facts. Until we have that it is just speculation. 

Yes. VD is very good. The only real advantage of oculus is ASW. it's a lot better than VD SSW. 

I find all reprojection methods unbearable, but give the latest update a try, they made it so much better few weeks ago than it was with VD. Gauges, hud and ground objects dont ghost anymore. I mean yeah AH64 is still unplayable because of the reprojection cant deal with the rotor and hmd and fast moving planes in external views still ghost, but other than that it is now quite good - no more ghosting on HUD, gauges or radar screen and flying low the ground objects dont ghost anymore either, they seem to have completely revamped it.

[Shibiswag]

4 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

Same here, Oculus Desktop not even in public beta, roll back, do a bunch of renaming, happy again.

Why am I still following this thread? Dunno. Well, both popcorns and peanuts come in sweet, salty or both.

That worked for me, initially it wasn't so I just uninstalled everything Oculus related, reinstalled it and obviously backed up the main folders before I copied in the new ones so I'm able to revert once the patch is up.
But yeah, loaded up into VR just fine once I copied the 3 folders over.

[Qcumber]

4 minutes ago, Grodin said:

I find all reprojection methods unbearable, but give the latest update a try, they made it so much better few weeks ago than it was with VD. Gauges, hud and ground objects dont ghost anymore. I mean yeah AH64 is still unplayable because of the reprojection cant deal with the rotor and hmd and fast moving planes in external views still ghost, but other than that it is now quite good - no more ghosting on HUD, gauges or radar screen and flying low the ground objects dont ghost anymore either, they seem to have completely revamped it.

Do you mean that SSW has improved? I'll have to check it out.

The main issue that I had with VD SSW was that it caused a weird distortion when looking sideways. I don't see this with ASW. 

My thoughts on VD Vs Meta

VD is very reliable and is comparable to oculus link in quality and performance. It is a superior piece of software and is improving constantly. 

Oculus link has the capability of 960 Mbps and has ASW, and it's great, except when it isn't. It is very temperamental. I have been using oculus software for about 5 years since I got my rift s and I have had many issues. 

[Shibiswag]

Honestly, everyone needs to chillaxe regarding this.
What's done is done.
Either be patent and wait a little bit more and stop acting like the devs at ED are doing nothing just because you can't have something you want when you want it.
Yes, as consumers and gamers, it's frustrating to not be able to play something we enjoy to its fullest for a while.
I understand that, but pouring fuel on the fire and criticizing when the devs are doing this to make sure you have the ability to play while making sure everything works in my opinion is being very ungrateful for all the hard work, they are putting into this.
So either wait for the patch, go play something, or go find something else to do in the meantime.
I can almost guarantee that if the ridicule continues the only thing it's going to do is cause the admins to close all threads relating to anything about it, then nobody will be able to say anything regardless.
So everyone just chill and wait.
 

[Granny]

2 hours ago, Qcumber said:

VD is very reliable and is comparable to oculus link in quality and performance. It is a superior piece of software and is improving constantly. 

I'm not using steam and tried a couple of the other suggestions but didn't have any luck.  (I'm probably doing something wrong). I'm thinking of giving VD a try but I notice the requirements say you need an ethernet connection.  Where my system is located I can't run an ethernet cable to my router without some painful construction projects.  I do have pretty good wifi signal and good speed though.  Is it even possible to use VD over wifi, and if it is would DCS play well that way? 

[Qcumber]

13 minutes ago, Granny said:

I'm not using steam and tried a couple of the other suggestions but didn't have any luck.  (I'm probably doing something wrong). I'm thinking of giving VD a try but I notice the requirements say you need an ethernet connection.  Where my system is located I can't run an ethernet cable to my router without some painful construction projects.  I do have pretty good wifi signal and good speed though.  Is it even possible to use VD over wifi, and if it is would DCS play well that way? 

Your last question first. VD is designed to work over WiFi. You only need an ethernet connection from your router to your pc. Some people find that a wifi-wifi connection works but VD recommend that you connect to your router by ethernet by ethernet and the router is close to your headset. The simplest way to do this is with a dedicated router. I got a WiFi 6 router for £40. It's under my desk and connected to my main router by a power line connector (a cheap device which allows you to connect your ethernet link via your home power sockets).  

[Shibiswag]

1 hour ago, Qcumber said:

Your last question first. VD is designed to work over WiFi. You only need an ethernet connection from your router to your pc. Some people find that a wifi-wifi connection works but VD recommend that you connect to your router by ethernet by ethernet and the router is close to your headset. The simplest way to do this is with a dedicated router. I got a WiFi 6 router for £40. It's under my desk and connected to my main router by a power line connector (a cheap device which allows you to connect your ethernet link via your home power sockets).  

Question regarding VD.
My computer is connected to a switch which is connected to the router, both via 1Gig Cat6 ethernet cable, both switch and router are Gigabit.
Would that work for VD? Thinking of giving it a go.
For me the Oculus app works with the workaround but if it's better in performance would love to give it a try, especially since I heard you can do augmented reality with it as well.
Hard to see my Thrustmaster MFD's in VR, have to literally feel for them lol.

[Grodin]

4 hours ago, Shibiswag said:

Question regarding VD.
My computer is connected to a switch which is connected to the router, both via 1Gig Cat6 ethernet cable, both switch and router are Gigabit.
Would that work for VD? Thinking of giving it a go.
For me the Oculus app works with the workaround but if it's better in performance would love to give it a try, especially since I heard you can do augmented reality with it as well.
Hard to see my Thrustmaster MFD's in VR, have to literally feel for them lol.

You can do augmented reality with openkneeboard and VD to see the real world on part of the screen yes. It works by creating a blank page that is pink or some other good greenscreen colour, open that in openkneeboard and then put the same color to VD passthrough settings, then when you open that pink page on your kneeboard VD will use passthrough camera over that pink page.

Switch to a router will propably work yes but the recommended setup is computer directly to a wifi6 router via cable.

[ARM505]

This is all well and good, but do some people realise that DEMOCRACY IS IN DANGER?!?!

 

(For those unable to read between the lines - people need to chill and realise there are other games to play AND KILL BUGS IN)

[Shibiswag]

2 hours ago, Grodin said:

You can do augmented reality with openkneeboard and VD to see the real world on part of the screen yes. It works by creating a blank page that is pink or some other good greenscreen colour, open that in openkneeboard and then put the same color to VD passthrough settings, then when you open that pink page on your kneeboard VD will use passthrough camera over that pink page.

Switch to a router will propably work yes but the recommended setup is computer directly to a wifi6 router via cable.

Okay cool thanks, don't see what Wifi has to do with anything as both my router and switch are rated for 1Gig. My computer is in my bedroom and my switch, router and modem are in a small closet rack with lines running through the house.
Kind of like how you would see in a small business setup. The wifi is only used for my printer, phones, and tablet. Everything else is connected to the switch.

1 hour ago, ARM505 said:

This is all well and good, but do some people realise that DEMOCRACY IS IN DANGER?!?!

 

(For those unable to read between the lines - people need to chill and realise there are other games to play AND KILL BUGS IN)

Fully agree, and that's what I pointed out earlier. If people going to come on and act the way they have been, then they going to leave the admins no choice but to close this thread and all others like it.
Then nobody will have a say in anything.
When I get my Taxes in, first thing I'm going to buy is Helldivers 2. FOR DEMOCRACY!
Yeah, kind of broke at the moment lolz.

[Qcumber]

6 hours ago, Shibiswag said:

Question regarding VD.
My computer is connected to a switch which is connected to the router, both via 1Gig Cat6 ethernet cable, both switch and router are Gigabit.
Would that work for VD? Thinking of giving it a go.
For me the Oculus app works with the workaround but if it's better in performance would love to give it a try, especially since I heard you can do augmented reality with it as well.
Hard to see my Thrustmaster MFD's in VR, have to literally feel for them lol.

It's worth a try. You could ask on the VD discord channel for advice. 

https://discord.com/invite/z9h58RPZ