Talvid Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) On 2/23/2024 at 4:08 AM, Flappie said: Why so? It's important that devs are aware of all MT issues, so they can be fixed before ST disappears. That's why I'm asking why you prefer using ST for the moment. I followed some advice I saw in the VR bugs thread. I un-installed all my VR apps, then re-installed them. and now DCS MultiThreading works fine without dizzyness. I didn't realize that MT came out after I had installed VR on my PC. Thanks much, I will keep using MT from here on out. Edited March 2 by Talvid 1 VR rig -
Regamuffin Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Hello Al, back in the day the VR mouse pointer ( white dot) use to be a white dot, which was easy to see against some dark cockpits, recently or maybe a little longer as i stepped away from DCS for a bit, this white dot, has now turned to a black dot! which makes it imposable to track and see where it is against say the UFC controller, am i jut being stupid or has it changed and is there a way to change it back? thanks Reg:pilotfly:
Regamuffin Posted March 5 Posted March 5 On 3/1/2024 at 10:27 PM, Talvid said: I followed some advice I saw in the VR bugs thread. I un-installed all my VR apps, then re-installed them. and now DCS MultiThreading works fine without dizzyness. I didn't realize that MT came out after I had installed VR on my PC. Thanks much, I will keep using MT from here on out. what VR apps was you using, im still getting those dizzy spells in VR DCS MT Reg:pilotfly:
DroptheHammer Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I have the DCS Cursor black issue with MT and opened a separate thread for that.... New Setup : 13900K, Asus ROG Strix 4090, 64GB of DDR3600C14, 4x 2TB ADATA NVME, HP Reverb G2, Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil TM3 throttle, Monolith External Amp, DT 1990 Pro Headphones & TrackIR v5 Old Setup: 12900KS @ 5.5 , EVGA FTW3 Hybrid 3090, 64GB of DDR3600C14, 4x 2TB ADATA NVME, HP Reverb G2, Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil TM3 throttle, Monolith External Amp, Philips X2HR Headphones & TrackIR v5 Old Old Setup: 9900KS @ 5.2, EVGA FTW3 3090. 32GB of DDR3866, 3x 1TB ADATA NVME
Talvid Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) On 3/5/2024 at 3:38 AM, Regamuffin said: what VR apps was you using, im still getting those dizzy spells in VR DCS MT Something happened, and now I'm back to dizzy spells a lot, but I just take a snapshot with the PrintScreen key, and it makes it all better instantly. I'm using PimaxXR Runtime, Pimax PC, OpenXR, and OpenComposite (Which was key to reducing my dizzyness dramatically: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbEMxSGw0M3BsVUlnaW15anAzOGFpQTg3c3paUXxBQ3Jtc0trUUUzV3pvYUNMRHZTODJVQkMwUklfNXAtLXJNSFNxcVhpTmw3LVl4elZDcVp5Q3RnX3huZlgyZjRhcU9zUUxDMUNVSk9mcUc5aXA1dGFobmxZM0JITTBWSnBVQ0trdGQ0OXp4aU9xekxhUXU5cTUtcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.com%2Fznixian%2FOpenOVR%2F-%2Ftree%2Fopenxr&v=Ha9QHmOi1n8) Try this in Open XR: nullnull more info can be found in the description of this video: Edited March 17 by Talvid VR rig -
KoN Posted March 22 Posted March 22 I think this is in MT . This black Dot is no good . Gigabyte - X570UD ~ Ryzen - 5600X @ 4.7 - RTX-4070 SUPER - XPG 32:GB @ 3200 - VKB - Gunfighter 4 - STECs - Throttle - Crosswinds Rudders - Trackir 5 . I'm a dot . Pico Nero 3 link VR . @ 4k Win 11 Pro 64Bit . No longer Supporting DCS .
Flappie Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, KoN said: I think this is in MT . Please attach your dcs.log, I'll tell you. ---
KoN Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/22/2024 at 12:37 PM, Flappie said: Please attach your dcs.log, I'll tell you. OK so i tried single thread and its black dot Inside of the cockpit but when moved outside onto Command menu f10 ect , its goes white again . Very odd . MT is good with yellow mouse pointer inside cockpit . Hind . Edited March 24 by KoN Gigabyte - X570UD ~ Ryzen - 5600X @ 4.7 - RTX-4070 SUPER - XPG 32:GB @ 3200 - VKB - Gunfighter 4 - STECs - Throttle - Crosswinds Rudders - Trackir 5 . I'm a dot . Pico Nero 3 link VR . @ 4k Win 11 Pro 64Bit . No longer Supporting DCS .
kendoric2 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Mine has gone from Green to Blue to White and now to Black... it also depends on the module I am using. Not an issue to me but yea it changes. 1
icuham Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 2/23/2024 at 3:08 AM, Flappie said: Why so? It's important that devs are aware of all MT issues, so they can be fixed before ST disappears. That's why I'm asking why you prefer using ST for the moment. @Flappie MT used to be very solid for me but since the last patch I too run ST all the time because there is now an extremely high chance in MT that at some point my VR feed goes black and never comes back. I much prefer MT, but in a 1 hour session I'm almost guaranteed to hit this at least once and I'm usually the game host, so I can't have that level of instability. Game is running fine, so everyone else can continue... but my VR somehow desync's is the best I can describe it. Only on MT, really hoping whatever was introduced in that patch goes back to normal later. 1
Flappie Posted March 23 Posted March 23 If you experience it again (in case you try MT again) please attach your session dcs.log file and your VR gear log if there is such a thing. Note you can run a dedicated server on your PC. This allows you to rejoin the game whenever your DCS client crashes or when you lose the VR gear. I do this sometimes and it works fine (I'm not using VR though). ---
Jenson Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I have the same issue, running MT in VR (OpenXR), and my cursor is in black and I can't see nothing during night time. PC Specs: GTX4090, i9 14900, Z790 Pro, DDR5 96G, 4TB SSD M.2, 1200W Power Flight Gears: Logitech X56 HOTAS & Rudder, Pimax Crystal Light Modules: F-4E, F-14A/B, F-15C, F-15E, F-16C, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C I/II, AH-64D, Supercarrier Location: Shanghai, CHINA Project: Operation Hormuz [F/A-18C Multiplayer Campaign]
icuham Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/23/2024 at 12:31 AM, Flappie said: If you experience it again (in case you try MT again) please attach your session dcs.log file and your VR gear log if there is such a thing. Note you can run a dedicated server on your PC. This allows you to rejoin the game whenever your DCS client crashes or when you lose the VR gear. I do this sometimes and it works fine (I'm not using VR though). I think I might have worked around it by creating a new shortcut to launch DCS with "bin-mt\DCS.exe --force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR" instead of selecting options in the Steam launch window. Not sure what happened in the last patch to require me to do this to get things on OpenXR again but for now at least it's not crashing, still a black cursor but hopefully that gets fixed sometime I guess. Thanks for the note on the dedicated server, we were doing that previously. Might be time to start again.
Regamuffin Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/12/2024 at 9:31 PM, Flappie said: @Regamuffin Are you running DCS ST or MT? MT bud Reg:pilotfly:
Flappie Posted March 27 Posted March 27 7 hours ago, Regamuffin said: MT bud I'll try to reproduce this in MT. Please attach our options.lua (from "Saved GamesDCS.../Config") and your dcs.log (from "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs"). ---
Flappie Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) @Jenson @icuham Please attach your dcs.log (from "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs") and your options.lua ("Saved Games/DCS.../Config"). It might help me reproduce the issue in MT (so far, I can't). Edited March 27 by Flappie ---
Jenson Posted March 30 Posted March 30 On 3/28/2024 at 1:37 AM, Flappie said: @Jenson @icuham Please attach your dcs.log (from "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs") and your options.lua ("Saved Games/DCS.../Config"). It might help me reproduce the issue in MT (so far, I can't). here we go, I'm using MT and the cursor is black, can't see anything during night time. dcs.log PC Specs: GTX4090, i9 14900, Z790 Pro, DDR5 96G, 4TB SSD M.2, 1200W Power Flight Gears: Logitech X56 HOTAS & Rudder, Pimax Crystal Light Modules: F-4E, F-14A/B, F-15C, F-15E, F-16C, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C I/II, AH-64D, Supercarrier Location: Shanghai, CHINA Project: Operation Hormuz [F/A-18C Multiplayer Campaign]
Flappie Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Thanks. You're running ST: 2024-03-30 12:18:09.800 INFO APP (Main): Command line: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin\DCS.exe --force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR You should be able to find MT in here: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin-mt\DCS.exe ---
Jenson Posted March 31 Posted March 31 9 hours ago, Flappie said: Thanks. You're running ST: 2024-03-30 12:18:09.800 INFO APP (Main): Command line: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin\DCS.exe --force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR You should be able to find MT in here: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin-mt\DCS.exe Thanks Flappie, but this is still weird, because I did have the quick access linked to mt folder, please see attached picture, I have four icons for DCS, and I'm sure that each time I'm clicking on the DCS MT VR. Anyway, even for ST, black color cursor is a nightmare, are we able to change it maybe to blue or green? Thanks. null PC Specs: GTX4090, i9 14900, Z790 Pro, DDR5 96G, 4TB SSD M.2, 1200W Power Flight Gears: Logitech X56 HOTAS & Rudder, Pimax Crystal Light Modules: F-4E, F-14A/B, F-15C, F-15E, F-16C, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C I/II, AH-64D, Supercarrier Location: Shanghai, CHINA Project: Operation Hormuz [F/A-18C Multiplayer Campaign]
Flappie Posted March 31 Posted March 31 19 hours ago, Jenson said: Thanks Flappie, but this is still weird, because I did have the quick access linked to mt folder, please see attached picture, I have four icons for DCS, and I'm sure that each time I'm clicking on the DCS MT VR. Weird, indeed. You really should try MT. What happens if you double-click DCS.exe from the bin-mt/ folder? To recognize MT from the main menu, look at the version number. You should see this: 19 hours ago, Jenson said: Anyway, even for ST, black color cursor is a nightmare, are we able to change it maybe to blue or green? Thanks. I have no idea, but I dont think so. This ST issue is reported, but ST receives less and less fixes. MT gets priority since only MT will remain in the end. ---
Aries Posted April 5 Posted April 5 same here... black cursor in ST... ...MT was great but from last update i get like 23 fps in it versus normal 90/45 ASW framerates in ST 7800x3d, 64gb, 7900xtx, Quest 2 over Virtual Desktop... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining...
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