Lasing target for wingman + weird TGP symbology

[modsat]

Hi guys.

I'm currently watching a danish documentary ("Jagerpiloterne") about our F16 squadrons contribution to Operation Inherent Resolve. I just saw them fly a CAS mission where they dropped ordnance on ISIS personel. They were at high altitude and the engaging aircraft had to move so far away to begin the attack, that he would not be able to see the targets on his TGP. Instead his wingman circles the area and lights up the targets with laser via his TGP. This is handed off to the engaging F16 (via datalink I assume) which then drops laser guided ordnance on target. During this we are (apperantly) shown the TGP footage (presumably from the lasing aircraft) and it shows some symbology I have never seen before (screenshots below). I hope you guys can help educate me.

1. I know datalink is now implemented for the F16. Is it currently possible to replicate this attack? Can you lase a target for your wingman who drops LGBs?

2. Can you explain the TGP symbology to me? Specifically: what is the triangle with the vector line and #1 in the first image? And what are the clover like symbol with the #4 below it and the broken line in the second image?

I hope you can clear it up for me.

Cheers

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[Furiz]

9 hours ago, modsat said:

1. I know datalink is now implemented for the F16. Is it currently possible to replicate this attack? Can you lase a target for your wingman who drops LGBs?

yes, you can lase for other aircraft. Laser code of the lasing aircraft needs to be the same as bomb code on the aircraft that is dropping bombs. You can also send points to another F-16.

 

[modsat]

@Furiz Thanks. I don't know anything about laser and bomb codes, but I will look into it and figure it out.

[modsat]

FYI I just watched the final episode of the documentary, and it became clear that the numbered clover like symbol is a markpoint. In the last episode they use them a lot and share them between flight members.

[QuiGon]

On 4/28/2024 at 1:24 AM, modsat said:

FYI I just watched the final episode of the documentary, and it became clear that the numbered clover like symbol is a markpoint. In the last episode they use them a lot and share them between flight members.

You can do that in DCS too.

Btw, do you know what kind of TGP they used there? Lantirn? Litening? Sniper?

[modsat]

6 hours ago, QuiGon said:

You can do that in DCS too.

Btw, do you know what kind of TGP they used there? Lantirn? Litening? Sniper?

I'm just learning about the details of the datalink system. Seems awesome in MP. I have not flown MP yet, but can't wait to try it out. Seemed cool when they were lasing for each other in the doc.

I don't know about the TGP. Afaik we got Litening installed in 2017. But our participation in Inherent resolve was in 2015-2016. So I assume an older version than the Lightening.

[TobiasA]

Probably the Sniper pod. Edit: Denmark bought the LITENING G4 in 2013.

In DCS, you can search for a buddies laser code by pressing uncage on the TGP. When you aquired his laser, press TMS up to lock on to that point or press uncage again.

The laser code for LST (this function) is the second code in the DED page where you set the laser code.

There is a danish group "Danica DCS" in case that you are looking for a danish group for DCS.

Edited April 29, 2024 by TobiasA

[QuiGon]

24 minutes ago, TobiasA said:

Probably the Sniper pod. Edit: Denmark bought the LITENING G4 in 2013.

Okay, that's quite a bit more modern than the TGP we have in DCS for our Viper.

[TobiasA]

vor 6 Minuten schrieb QuiGon:

Okay, that's quite a bit more modern than the TGP we have in DCS for our Viper.

Until we get the sniper pod

[modsat]

@TobiasA I had read differently but googling I see the misunderstanding. DK did indeed recieve the first batch of G4 in 2013 but apperantly we did not upgrade the entire fleet, and another batch was purchased in 2017. I saw an article about that and wrongly assumed that the entire switcher took place in 17. I'll look into DanicaDCS, but being a night watch my schedule usually align better with NA.

@QuiGon Forgive my ignorance, but which one do we have in DCS and how much different is it?

[Tholozor]

The current TGP is kind of in a weird state, as the physical model is LITENING, but most of the display symbology is modeled after LANTIRN. Once the Sniper is released, the LITENING will be fully replaced with LANTIRN.