yes still in development Still in development?

[dresoccer4]

Just wondering if this plane was still in active development? Any word from the devs?

[Terry Dactil]

It still needs a lot more development, and the updates are few and far between.

Also, the recent updates made things worse in many ways and have not been fixed.

I think they have been letting the office boy play as being a programmer. 

[Tea-Pig]

Welcome to the world of DCS, a place of eternal youth where nothing gets old because just being created takes forever.

I would imagine the economics are that it's more profitable for a publisher to use its resources to bring new stuff to market than it is to fix and finish the existing stuff. Result: nothing gets finished and people who have bought early access modules (for a miserly discount) are left out in the cold.

The solution would be for us customers to just stop buying unfinished stuff, but we want the latest toys so... Looking through the current catalogue there are a few things that I fancy getting, but I'm done with early access. If it ain't finished it ain't getting my money.

[Terry Dactil]

3 hours ago, Tea-Pig said:

The solution would be for us customers to just stop buying unfinished stuff, but we want the latest toys so... Looking through the current catalogue there are a few things that I fancy getting, but I'm done with early access. If it ain't finished it ain't getting my money.

Yes, gotta agree.

I decided some time ago that I would never buy anything "early access" again.

 It's sad really, because the Mosquito has so much that is really great but is being let down badly by a lot of things that could be fixed but are being ignored.

[BIGNEWY]

On 5/24/2024 at 10:15 PM, dresoccer4 said:

Just wondering if this plane was still in active development? Any word from the devs?

Hi, 

yes still have tweaks to come and some more features. Development does take a long time and we understand the frustration sometimes, early access does not suit everyone but without it these projects would not be possible. So thank you for sticking with us. 

When we are ready to share news we will, and I have passed your feedback to the team. 

thank you 

[Tea-Pig]

If Early Access is an essential part of the DCS business model then I would suggest some steps are taken to fix it because it seems to me to be one of the major causes of angst among customers. To me the problem is that everything is far too vague. A module is released and all sorts of future upgrades are talked about, hinted at and even promised, but there's never any timescale given. Years go by with little or no progress and Early Access customers feel let down and that their trust has been betrayed.

I think ED should introduce (and adhere to) some standards for Early Access, with definite lists of coming features and TIMESCALES, so that everyone knows exactly where they stand. Or do away with Early Access and have other systems, like what was done with the Normandy map and its V2, or the Afghanistan map.

Looking at current releases it seems that the likes of the Kola map and the Chinook are being released barely half finished. It's a huge leap of faith to buy into that; faith that has not always been well rewarded for Early Access customers.

[BIGNEWY]

9 hours ago, Tea-Pig said:

If Early Access is an essential part of the DCS business model then I would suggest some steps are taken to fix it because it seems to me to be one of the major causes of angst among customers. To me the problem is that everything is far too vague. A module is released and all sorts of future upgrades are talked about, hinted at and even promised, but there's never any timescale given. Years go by with little or no progress and Early Access customers feel let down and that their trust has been betrayed.

I think ED should introduce (and adhere to) some standards for Early Access, with definite lists of coming features and TIMESCALES, so that everyone knows exactly where they stand. Or do away with Early Access and have other systems, like what was done with the Normandy map and its V2, or the Afghanistan map.

Looking at current releases it seems that the likes of the Kola map and the Chinook are being released barely half finished. It's a huge leap of faith to buy into that; faith that has not always been well rewarded for Early Access customers.

Sorry you feel that way, but again without early access and long development windows we would not be able to produce these modules. 

In the case of the supercarrier for example we are bringing completely new features to DCS that require a lot of time and investment, this can not be done quickly. 

Early access does not suit everyone, we know that, but it is optional, if early access is not something you support please wait for a full release. 

thank you

[Silver_Dragon]

What's wrong with keeping "paying customers" more informed about what is being worked on, and the progress being made?  

Do you have the newsletters, the develop videos and the forum post when have a progress or a update...

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[BIGNEWY]

1 minute ago, 4eyes said:

Yes.  I own the F-18. The P-51 and P-47.    Mosquito? 2.5 years of silence.  

The Mosquito is nearly feature complete, we have tweaked the landing gear recently and the tail wheel will be adjusted soon. 

The AI navigator will come in a future update, but it will take time. 

thank you 

[Munin]

On 5/31/2024 at 3:19 PM, BIGNEWY said:

The Mosquito is nearly feature complete,

Any news about the drift meter? Doing some proper ww2 navigation would be really interesting.

And a windscreen wiper for rainy bad weather landings.

[Silver_Dragon]

21 minutes ago, Munin said:

Any news about the drift meter? Doing some proper ww2 navigation would be really interesting.

And a windscreen wiper for rainy bad weather landings.

Remember Newsletter:

Quote

Mosquito FB VI. This year we continue working on the features from the Early access list. Including AI crew members and the Drift recorder.

windscreen wiper for rainy bad weather landings has a core feature, no exclusive from Mosquito module.

Edited June 2, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[dresoccer4]

On 5/28/2024 at 8:44 AM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

yes still have tweaks to come and some more features. Development does take a long time and we understand the frustration sometimes, early access does not suit everyone but without it these projects would not be possible. So thank you for sticking with us. 

When we are ready to share news we will, and I have passed your feedback to the team. 

thank you 

thanks for the feedback, good to know the devs read these posts. DCS customer for a long time and I own every single module. as soon as the Mossie gets FFB I'll be a happy customer

Edited June 10, 2024 by dresoccer4

[Munin]

On 6/2/2024 at 4:44 PM, Silver_Dragon said:

windscreen wiper for rainy bad weather landings has a core feature, no exclusive from Mosquito module.

Yes, but it still doesn't work (or at least last I tried a few weeks back).

For me learning a ww2 navigators job is very appealing. Piloting is fun, but to also be able to be a navigator with an E6B and such sure is something else. Doing low level attack runs in bad weather in a Viggen is fun but that is 70s tech and feels like cheating.

Celestial navigation with a virtual sextant would be appreaciated too. The proper stars are already in there I'm told.

[Silver_Dragon]

1 minute ago, Munin said:

Yes, but it still doesn't work (or at least last I tried a few weeks back).

For me learning a ww2 navigators job is very appealing. Piloting is fun, but to also be able to be a navigator with an E6B and such sure is something else. Doing low level attack runs in bad weather in a Viggen is fun but that is 70s tech and feels like cheating.

Celestial navigation with a virtual sextant would be appreaciated too. The proper stars are already in there I'm told.

That is the problem, many features with will require implement on the core.... 

[Slippa]

On 5/31/2024 at 2:19 PM, BIGNEWY said:

The Mosquito is nearly feature complete, we have tweaked the landing gear recently and the tail wheel will be adjusted soon. 

The AI navigator will come in a future update, but it will take time. 

thank you 

Aha! Superb.

I read that there might’ve been a sneaky fix but thought it unlikely. Been busy trying to convert to too many things at once lately and have barely seen a propeller. Look forward to it being sorted, thanks team and thank you.

Oh and yeah, the wiper. I still roll it round as part of my startup, someday it’s gonna work .

Edited June 10, 2024 by Slippa
Wiper

[Ala13_ManOWar]

11 hours ago, Munin said:

Yes, but it still doesn't work (or at least last I tried a few weeks back).

For me learning a ww2 navigators job is very appealing. Piloting is fun, but to also be able to be a navigator with an E6B and such sure is something else. Doing low level attack runs in bad weather in a Viggen is fun but that is 70s tech and feels like cheating.

Celestial navigation with a virtual sextant would be appreaciated too. The proper stars are already in there I'm told.

Actually it'd be nice, but E-6B o CR-3 didn't exist back then, it'd be cheating .

[Terry Dactil]

14 minutes ago, Ala13_ManOWar said:

Actually it'd be nice, but E-6B o CR-3 didn't exist back then, it'd be cheating .

Really?

Our friend ChatGPT disagrees ...

The E6B aviation computer was first introduced and used during World War II. It was developed in 1933 by Naval Lt. Philip Dalton, and it quickly became a standard tool for pilots due to its reliability and usefulness for flight planning and navigation calculations. The E6B has since remained a widely used tool in aviation.

[Ala13_ManOWar]

Nope, I've seen WWII aviation rulers/calculators and E6B wasn't in the pilot/navigator's equipment. There were other rulers, like an E6B but separated instead of all in one as it is, you can see them/buy them in ebay, but E6B in WWII as a common equipment? Never saw it.

Edited June 10, 2024 by Ala13_ManOWar

[Skewgear]

The RAF used similar equipment, known as a Dalton Computor and based on the same principles as the E-6B, Dalton being the inventor of the latter. For an example see:

https://www.historicflyingclothing.com/en-GB/ww2-raf-personal-equipment/raf-navigational-computer-mk-iiid-/prod_20285

Edit to add - Dalton invented the E-6B before the US' entry into WWII, having died in 1941. The E-6B is so named because that was its original US Navy stores reference code.

Edited June 10, 2024 by Skewgear

[Munin]

They use it in the textbook Air Navigation from Army Air Forces Training Command, published in 1944, and call it "E-6B" at e.g p182 (https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/wwii-air-navigation-manual.20828/).

Also:

• https://cyanavigation.com/story-of-e-6b-philip-dalton/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E6B

[Ala13_ManOWar]

Yep, so not the plastic ruler we all got nowadays .

 

I believe it was early iterations, like the ones I mentioned, just different calculations in different rulers instead of a single one like modern examples. Even some calculations aren't the same, I believe E6B, and CR-3 as well, developed new calculations to fit into the single ruler, CR-3 even a few more than classic E6B. So, just rounded computer/calculator/ruler instead (or on top of) the straight ones, they serve similar purposes and these kind of instrument dates back to XIX century, IIRC.

So, I'm just saying, don't expect the exact modern one you have in your hand, it's a different kind even the ones with the similar name.

[Slippa]

I love the stuff this place pops up with.

Always something to learn .

[MAXsenna]

I love the stuff this place pops up with.
Always something to learn .

Yeah! I keep saying that to myself. It's literally amazing!

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[Terry Dactil]

The E6B will never become obsolete 

Edited June 11, 2024 by Terry Dactil
Typo. Where did that 'null' come from?

[Munin]

5 hours ago, Ala13_ManOWar said:

Yep, so not the plastic ruler we all got nowadays .

The true E-6B did exist and was commonly used in WW2.