WHOGX5 Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 As you can see in the pictures below, the kneeboard pages have much lower resolution on the pilot body than the original file, and also much lower resolution than the "pop-up"able DCS kneeboard, making them very hard to read. In addition to this, the UV texture map isn't properly aligned with the page 3D model, leading to the outer edges of the page being cropped out. On charts where there is often text even smaller than this, it's completely impossible to see what it says. On the left you see the in-game pilot body kneeboard (looks the same on all texture quality settings) and on the right is the original page. At the bottom, I've also attached a zoomed in screenshot. As an example I've used the excellent "Aerodrome Data and Frequencies" pages made by Minsky: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3312200/ Here's also a zoomed in picture of the pilot body kneeboard resolution: 2 -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
buceador Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 And yet this one is quite clear - in game F1 screen shot.
WHOGX5 Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 1 hour ago, buceador said: And yet this one is quite clear - in game F1 screen shot. I mean, it looks quite clear in your screenshot because it's an incredibly zoomed in map with absolutely enourmous text. And if you zoom into the picture you posted, because of how far away and zoomed out the picture is, the pixels-per-inch of your monitor actually seems to be lower than the pixels-per-inch of the kneeboard, so you can't even tell from that screenshot whether the kneeboard is high or low resolution. But as I showed above, it is low resolution so there's no need to argue about that. If you'd actually put a real world aviation chart on the kneeboard, you cannot read the text at all because the resolution is way to low. -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
buceador Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 @WHOGX5 Point taken, I'll try a "real world aviation chart" ( I wasn't trying to argue the point ) 1
WHOGX5 Posted May 28, 2024 Author Posted May 28, 2024 @buceador @Furiz @Viper33 Could you guys do me a favour and take a screenshot with the same chart as me so we can do a proper comparison? Below I have attached a publicly available approach chart for RAF Akrotiri. My in-game screenshot is taken with the highest texture settings, even cockpit displays are set to max for good measure. On my end, it looks like this...: Here is the original chart: -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
Furiz Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 2 hours ago, WHOGX5 said: Could you guys do me a favour and take a screenshot with the same chart as me so we can do a proper comparison? Could you not make all 3 of us download and screenshot some chart but instead 1 of you take the same chart we 3 used that is already in game and make a screen shot. So 3 guys don't do what 1 guy can do 2
buceador Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 In game kneeboard screenshots. My cockpit res settings
-=Shin=- Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 Can anyone please tell me how to insert stuff, documents in the F-16 Kneeboard? What data files? And where is the folder? Big thank you Discord : vFS F-16 VIPER CLUB Squadron
buceador Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 ...\Saved Games\DCS (or whatever you have called it) \Kneeboard\F-16C_50 They can be .png or .PDF I believe
PLUTON Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 I know the path to install it, but how do we make it appear on the F16 driver's knee board? Thank you for helping me
Vortex225 Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 My kneeboards look sharp and clear to read. I haven't noticed this issue in my flights this weekend, but I'll take a closer look next time just to compare. 2 hours ago, PLUTON said: I know the path to install it, but how do we make it appear on the F16 driver's knee board? Thank you for helping me It will automatically appear if you have the pilot body selected on. You just need to have binds for next and previous page set. 1
WHOGX5 Posted May 28, 2024 Author Posted May 28, 2024 14 hours ago, Furiz said: Could you not make all 3 of us download and screenshot some chart but instead 1 of you take the same chart we 3 used that is already in game and make a screen shot. So 3 guys don't do what 1 guy can do I don't know which charts you are using and I do not use in-game charts, which is why I posted one of the real world charts I've been using so we can make a 1-to-1 comparison with the exact same image, and also so we can use an example of what would be used in the real world. And if you don't want to help me out to figure out the cause of this issue, then that is your choice, nobody is forcing you to be helpful. 1 -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
Furiz Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 8 hours ago, WHOGX5 said: I don't know which charts you are using and I do not use in-game charts, which is why I posted one of the real world charts I've been using so we can make a 1-to-1 comparison with the exact same image, and also so we can use an example of what would be used in the real world. And if you don't want to help me out to figure out the cause of this issue, then that is your choice, nobody is forcing you to be helpful. You don't want help is how I see this 1
WHOGX5 Posted May 29, 2024 Author Posted May 29, 2024 4 hours ago, Furiz said: You don't want help is how I see this You are not helpful is how I see this. -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
buceador Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 4 hours ago, WHOGX5 said: You are not helpful is how I see this. I downloaded this from the link you supplied and took an in-game screenshot: I would add that your approach is not conducive to collaboration. 1
WHOGX5 Posted May 29, 2024 Author Posted May 29, 2024 4 hours ago, buceador said: I downloaded this from the link you supplied and took an in-game screenshot: I would add that your approach is not conducive to collaboration. Sorry, I was just annoyed by him backhandedly suggesting that I post a screenshot of a chart nobody has supplied to me. But I appreciate your help, and that screenshot tells me beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is definitely higher resolution on your end when I compare to the same page on my end. However, I cannot understand why this is? I have already set the highest possible texture settings. Is there any other setting which affects the resolution of the kneeboard in-game? -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
buceador Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 I understand the frustrations associated with troubleshooting DCS problems! If you look back at my previous post with the examples of DCS kneeboards, at the end is a pic of my cockpit res settings - I have also re-attached it here - are you settings the same? I have also attached a grab of my SYSTEM settings in case there is something radically different.
Vortex225 Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/29/2024 at 4:51 PM, WHOGX5 said: Sorry, I was just annoyed by him backhandedly suggesting that I post a screenshot of a chart nobody has supplied to me. But I appreciate your help, and that screenshot tells me beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is definitely higher resolution on your end when I compare to the same page on my end. However, I cannot understand why this is? I have already set the highest possible texture settings. Is there any other setting which affects the resolution of the kneeboard in-game? I wonder if the resolution of cockpit displays is controlling this. Maybe 1024 Every Frame? I'm using a Reverb G2 and it still looks crystal clear to me in VR. Sorry if this isn't helpful.
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