Stupid AI wingmen

[Michi.G85]

So, after posting about this behaviour back in AUG 2022, I´m again fed up with DCS' stupid AI Wingman...

Why, just WHY is every AI Wingman not able to stay the F out of enemy territory?!?
Why, just WHY is every AI Wingman doomed to die when I order him to attack?
Why, just WHY has he all of his stand off weapons ready but to go in for a knive kill?
Why, just WHY can´t ED change this so that there would be any use of this essential help?
Why, just WHY can he spot a Bandit but will not engage - even if ordered to?
Why, just WHY does he jettison his weapons first chance he gets shot at?!?

How am I supposed to succeed in a mission on my own?
Take a look at that screenshot below (taken in VR, so not very good) and try to guess, where my hero wingman is.
Little hint: far right side. The little red thing between all the blues. Chance of survival? -4

So, after three tries I quit this stupid AF...

Edited October 19, 2024 by Michi.G85

[Flappie]

No need for crossposting. A track would be welcome.

[falcon_120]

I'm sure ED is well aware of the severe limitations of AI. I don't think a track is helpful at this point, its more of a ED thing making the effort to develop a block of AI behavior into the game, in the same manner some BVR AI improvements were rolled out some months ago.

I think I've read in a newsletter ED is proposing this in building blocks, starting in BVR and moving to DACT and other areas.

Regards,

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, Michi.G85 said:

So, after posting about this behaviour back in AUG 2022, I´m again fed up with DCS' stupid AI Wingman...

Why, just WHY is every AI Wingman not able to stay the F out of enemy territory?!?
Why, just WHY is every AI Wingman doomed to die when I order him to attack?
Why, just WHY has he all of his stand off weapons ready but to go in for a knive kill?
Why, just WHY can´t ED change this so that there would be any use of this essential help?
Why, just WHY can he spot a Bandit but will not engage - even if ordered to?

How am I supposed to succeed in a mission on my own?
Take a look at that screenshot below (taken in VR, so not very good) and try to guess, where my hero wingman is.
Little hint: far right side. The little red thing between all the blues. Chance of survival? -4

So, after three tries I quit this stupid AF...

Please do not cross post. 

If you want help please attach a track replay example showing the problem. 

We need to see what commands you are giving the AI so we can understand why you are having issues. 

thank you

[Michi.G85]

On 5/31/2024 at 4:15 PM, falcon_120 said:

I'm sure ED is well aware of the severe limitations of AI. I don't think a track is helpful at this point, its more of a ED thing making the effort to develop a block of AI behavior into the game, in the same manner some BVR AI improvements were rolled out some months ago.

I think I've read in a newsletter ED is proposing this in building blocks, starting in BVR and moving to DACT and other areas.

Regards,

True. I mean, AI Wingman spots enemy at 25k behind a building - but needs to circle above it? Thats just so stupid.
One line of code could solve this: IF you can attack from far away: Do it! ELSE: Stay the F out of enemy territory.

But ok, I will give DCS another try today and add a track later.

[Michi.G85]

On 5/31/2024 at 4:21 PM, BIGNEWY said:

Please do not cross post. 

If you want help please attach a track replay example showing the problem. 

We need to see what commands you are giving the AI so we can understand why you are having issues. 

thank you

Hope that helps?

Fail.trk