Force feedback Joystick from Moza

[PawlaczGMD]

2 hours ago, tekwoj said:

Have you tried reducing axis travel limits in the Axis Travel window?

Kiowa and Chinook are not "officially" supported by the software. Here are modified export scripts to make them work (they'll pretend to be Ah-64 and Ka-50 respectively, so you will need to switch profiles manually when using them).

To install replace the 2 files in the %userprofile%\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts\MOZA directory

MainRotorRPM.lua 2.29 kB · 0 downloads MOZA.lua 12.72 kB · 0 downloads

I did not mess with it, TBH not sure how they implement force sensing, but the axis travel is not the problem, the problem is that the base is way too weak to enforce it with its torque. It works but just doesn't feel great and is not very precise, so I prefer to use the JF-17 profile with some modifications, since it's the next closest thing I guess. I would have liked to try the real force sensing stick, but I'm not interested in getting it just for the Viper. I might buy the new Winwing FFB base which is much more powerful and try it there.

[VirusAM]

Hi everyone....I have just ordered the moza ab9 base and the mh-16 grip.
I actually I use 2 monstertech chair mounts for my throttle and stick. I would still use it as a side stick.
On monstertech website they sell the front mounting moza ab9 adapter...but as said I have the chairmounts...So to use the moza ab9 with my chair mounts I should mount it backwards...is that possible?

The axis are easily reversed in software (usually). Is there a setting in their software to reverse the axis?

I am also worried about the grip connector. They also have some base plates in stock, but I don't think that that is a good option. The base would sit too high, and would not be ergonomical. 
I saw the the connector in the Mh-16 is free to rotate, is that the case?is it safe to rotate it 180 degrees?

Has someone a similar setup to mine and had to mount the base reversed?
I cannot use desk mounts as my desk would oscillate (I plan to change desk, but first I need to relocate, so for now I need to stick with chair mounts).

Thanks to any owner for replies

[slghtlystewpid]

On 5/6/2025 at 5:28 PM, tekwoj said:

Have you tried reducing axis travel limits in the Axis Travel window?

Kiowa and Chinook are not "officially" supported by the software. Here are modified export scripts to make them work (they'll pretend to be Ah-64 and Ka-50 respectively, so you will need to switch profiles manually when using them).

To install replace the 2 files in the %userprofile%\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts\MOZA directory

MainRotorRPM.lua 2.29 kB · 27 downloads MOZA.lua 12.72 kB · 29 downloads

Would this also work with the OH-6A mod? Trying to get full feedback with weapons/skids etc. similar to the Huey but for the OH-6. 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Side-mount using regular joystick mount and do not rotate the stick here. 

[tekwoj]

11 hours ago, slghtlystewpid said:

Would this also work with the OH-6A mod? Trying to get full feedback with weapons/skids etc. similar to the Huey but for the OH-6. 

There's an OH-6 profile so I assumed it's recognized out of the box. But if it isn't, yeah, you just got to figure out how to read the values needed by the script.

[Vladdo]

is it just me or does anyone else get clicking when moving the stick around?

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

I notice that the latest software, 1.0.6.41, there may be a new setting "Game Force Feedback Gain" and set to 100%. It contributes to shaking of the stick when flying F-16 in DCS World. Since I use only as F-16 profile, I turn it off to 0% and now the stick "shaking" is gone.

[Wostg]

Thanks for that, it's hard to pick on updates from the app or the discord channel. I was still on the 1.0.5 and just discovered the "gear buffet" option which had defaulted to brick-in-a-washing-machine level dangerous.

[StiC]

On 7/23/2025 at 11:24 AM, Vladdo said:

is it just me or does anyone else get clicking when moving the stick around?

I get a subtle, single click when my DCS profile is loaded but the game isn't running. My DSC profiles have no centering force and as I cross the zero point I can feel it. Once active forces are being sent to the stick it either goes away or gets lost in the chaos.

[ebabil]

hi guys

I just want to use my AB9 as standart spring stick for planes for both dcs and msfs. And I want to use it as a hydraulic cyclic, like it will stay where I move it with like two fingers.

But now with the all profiles, either it is toooooo stiff or too weak and falls. I am like hand wrestling with the stick. Can you help with the settings? 

Also, is their discord only source to find profiles?

[Vladdo]

This is the clicking I get.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZsDaXTajN9c

[Aapje]

I don't get that at all. Sounds like something is broken. Contact their support.

[cashman75]

On 7/13/2025 at 11:56 PM, VirusAM said:

Hi everyone....I have just ordered the moza ab9 base and the mh-16 grip.
I actually I use 2 monstertech chair mounts for my throttle and stick. I would still use it as a side stick.
On monstertech website they sell the front mounting moza ab9 adapter...but as said I have the chairmounts...So to use the moza ab9 with my chair mounts I should mount it backwards...is that possible?

The axis are easily reversed in software (usually). Is there a setting in their software to reverse the axis?

I am also worried about the grip connector. They also have some base plates in stock, but I don't think that that is a good option. The base would sit too high, and would not be ergonomical. 
I saw the the connector in the Mh-16 is free to rotate, is that the case?is it safe to rotate it 180 degrees?

Has someone a similar setup to mine and had to mount the base reversed?
I cannot use desk mounts as my desk would oscillate (I plan to change desk, but first I need to relocate, so for now I need to stick with chair mounts).

Thanks to any owner for replies

Hi, I also use Monstertech universal chairmounts  for my HOTAS set (Virpil ) on my IKEA chair. Moza AB9 fitted nicely on the plate that I use for my Virpil stick base without the need for setting it backwards.
Best regards.   

[slghtlystewpid]

On 7/23/2025 at 5:24 AM, tekwoj said:

There's an OH-6 profile so I assumed it's recognized out of the box. But if it isn't, yeah, you just got to figure out how to read the values needed by the script.

any chance you know what value the script needs? tried flipping through the luas and am not sure what code is responsible for the actulal telemetry...

[tekwoj]

@slghtlystewpid Everything in scripts/MOZA directory. The main script is MOZA.lua, which calls the other scripts for some values.

Are you sure it's not a config issue? Because I see in the RotorRPM script this :

Edited August 9 by tekwoj

[Rifter]

General hint for the settings in the MOZA software:
Do not use [km/h] for velocity settings, although the unit [km/h] is used in the GUI. Use [m/s] instead since DCS telemetry data is output in [m/s] and MOZA doesn't do a conversion.

Regarding the OH-6:
Data extraction is done in the same way as in TelemFFB and therefore most likely correct. However, the ground and weapon effects are currently not working in MOZA for the OH-6.

[WindyTX]

On 5/6/2025 at 8:15 AM, ebabil said:

do you have "telemetry service disconnected" error all the time? I can't get any in game feedback like engine, stall etc

I have this problem the AB9 software recognizes what Aircraft I am flying and changes profile but Telemetry is always disconnected and I get feedback in the F14 but none in the Apache.

It recognizes the game is running and the LUA appears to be set correctly its the same as my other Rig which works perfectly.

[slghtlystewpid]

On 8/9/2025 at 4:32 AM, tekwoj said:

@slghtlystewpid Everything in scripts/MOZA directory. The main script is MOZA.lua, which calls the other scripts for some values.

Are you sure it's not a config issue? Because I see in the RotorRPM script this :

Latest update shows rotor rpm and the skids have feedback now. Still no weapon feedback. For those curious

[tekwoj]

9 hours ago, slghtlystewpid said:

Latest update shows rotor rpm and the skids have feedback now. Still no weapon feedback. For those curious

You're not testing that with unlimited ammo, are you?

[BeerNfrites]

I'm thinking of purchasing a Moza AB9, but I've not been able to confidently figure out if I'm able to keep my axis to button mapping that I have set up for my Virpil Alpha.

On the mini stick on the alpha, I currently have it configured in the vpc software to activate button pushes at 0% & 100% on each axis. Thus it can act like a hat switch.

Is this possible in Moza software?

Also is anyone able to confirm the brake axis works, and are all buttons recognised, can hats be set as 4way instead of 8?

Edited 21 hours ago by BeerNfrites

[Aapje]

Brake axis works and almost all buttons work, except for the flip trigger, that is not mapped in a useful way.

The software doesn't have any way to configure the mapping, so you get what you get.

[Mr_sukebe]

11 hours ago, BeerNfrites said:

I'm thinking of purchasing a Moza AB9, but I've not been able to confidently figure out if I'm able to keep my axis to button mapping that I have set up for my Virpil Alpha.

On the mini stick on the alpha, I currently have it configured in the vpc software to activate button pushes at 0% & 100% on each axis. Thus it can act like a hat switch.

Is this possible in Moza software?

Also is anyone able to confirm the brake axis works, and are all buttons recognised, can hats be set as 4way instead of 8?

 

The Moza configuration capability basically replaces the Virpil config software.  So any clever configurations that you might have had are unlikely to work.

I don't remember seeing any way to reconfigure the hat as buttons (please do correct me if I'm wrong on that).  One of the implications being that you'll need to rebind every command for every aircraft within DCS for the Moza

Whilst that's somewhat annoying, I've had mine for a number of months now and love it.  I've kept my Virpil T50 base and Alpha for the time being "just in case", as the Moza is a lot more complex because of it's motors, and therefore is unlikely to be as reliable.  I've never wanted to go back to the pure Virpil solution.

Yes, the initial setup is a PITA, but once you figure out basic usage, the AB9 really is a game changer.

Ref config, there are some out of the box pre-configured profiles.  They're a good starting point.  Once you get a feel for what you want, you can start creating new profiles, specific for an aircraft type, with tailored settings.  Currently, all of my profiles use Telemetry data and have all of the individual settings enabled, with the profiles for each setting modified as I wish.  So for example, in the Huey, I've lightened the spring and dampers, so that it has far less resistance.  As I've never flown anything, and have never seen much on the specific feel of a real aircraft, I'm just guessing, but over time, they're coming together.

Some interesting oddities:

• All of the default profiles were using "Integrated" to collate feedback data from DCS.  As I understand it, this combines both the telemetry data from DCS AND the FFB data from DCS.  It's not nice.  Hence why I set mine to telemetry only.  Maybe the FFB data from DCS will in the future be good enough to replace the telemetry, but right now, I don't use it
• The damage setting is by default disabled for all of the profiles.  It's very easy to enable, just a single tick, but it does mean checking every profile
• The default gun recoil on say the Hind is absolutely nuts.  That required a bit more finesse on the curve
• Where there is no obvious profile for an aircraft, just copy one that's similar, assign that to work with the aircraft that you'll be using, and then further refine.  Doesn't take long once you get the hang of it
• Moza do state compatibility, but with only a limited number of grips, the Alpha being one of them.  It does work with the Alpha Prime that I bought a few months ago.  However (of course), Virpil updated the configuration such that out of the box, the flip trigger is seen as two buttons.  That wasn't the case within the Virpil software with the Alpha.  Sure enough, that means that moving from the Alpha to the Alpha Prime required re-binding EVERY CONTROL for EVERY AIRCRAFT again (joy).   Again, I can't complain too much, as whilst the Prime isn't really that different to the Alpha, I do love the feel of it.  It's not really worth the cost to upgrade, but hey, what the hell.

Edited 9 hours ago by Mr_sukebe

[Wostg]

Unasked for moza thoughts:

* you can mount it backwards, just remember to save your profiles with inverted x and y axes

* you can box the amount of movement available for each profile eg the default fa18 will only push forward a few degrees so as not to slam into a centre mfd. That rules for cockpit builders except the default startup requires it to slam violently into all your precious kit unless you lift it out beforehand.