fixed Pimax Crystal Quadviews seems to broken after last patch.

[tikijoetots37]

Quad views through PimaxXR just broke for me after the new DCS update that dropped a couple of hours ago. It looks like its tracking my eyes and where I'm looking but is shaking violently in the box where the Higher res part is supposed to be.

[Hunter Joker]

Quad views through PimaxXR just broke for me after the new DCS update that dropped a couple of hours ago. It looks like its tracking my eyes and where I'm looking but is shaking violently in the box where the Higher res part is supposed to be.

Same for me, my Pimax Crystal make exactly the same. Now that MBucchia didn't develop it how could be solved?

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[Rexxxy77]

Same for me with the Varjo Aero but only if below 90fps. Above 90fps works as usual.

[Hunter Joker]

Didn't try at 90, actually I'm a 72Hz 72fps locked. If it work at 90hz /90fps for me is still a big problem cause with all maxed out I could achieve solid fps only up to 75/78fps...

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[Bikerguy302000]

Tried at 120 still baulked on a Crystal 

[Hunter Joker]

So is completely bugged, not a refresh/fps problem.


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[WolfhoundCH]

Same here on a Crystal

[Tshark]

If you turn off Quadviews then the shaking goes away.  Of course you take the performance hit as well.

 

[tikijoetots37]

Just now, Tshark said:

If you turn off Quadviews then the shaking goes away.  Of course you take the performance hit as well.

 

Yeah, sadly doing that makes DCS borderline unplayable at the graphics settings we've come accustom to

[Hunter Joker]

Quad View simply is mandatory.

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[WolfhoundCH]

FYI if you disable Eyetracking (in the Pimax software for my headset), it works. Just without eyetracking obv. but tbh I'm surprised how little of a difference it makes for me with 25% width+height on quad focus area at 100% resolution 75% sharpness and 10% on the surrounding with 20% transition area.

[tikijoetots37]

Just now, WolfhoundCH said:

FYI if you disable Eyetracking (in the Pimax software for my headset), it works. Just without eyetracking obv. but tbh I'm surprised how little of a difference it makes for me with 25% width+height on quad focus area at 100% resolution 75% sharpness and 10% on the surrounding with 20% transition area.

Thats awesome that it makes that little difference for you, sadly I'm losing 20-25 FPS without Quadviews on my crystal.

[WolfhoundCH]

21 minutes ago, tikijoetots37 said:

Thats awesome that it makes that little difference for you, sadly I'm losing 20-25 FPS without Quadviews on my crystal.

I'm not sure if that's disabling quad views tbh, but I'll check FPS, was running 45 average with QuadViews so I'd expect to see stuttering without.

Edit: I have comparable FPS as before, are you 100% sure disabling eyetracking disables QuadViews?

Edited July 11, 2024 by WolfhoundCH

[mbucchia]

See my reply here

 

Same bug I reported to ED for >1 year but apparently no traction to fix it.

They renamed the app so now the workaround doesn't kick in anymore.

[Hawkeye_UK]

@NineLine @BIGNEWY @mbucchia

Bignewy/Nineline

What is it going to take to get this sorted in a Hotfix - as more and more people switch to Pimax this has to be a priority surely - shocked to see its a year old but the workaround no longer works.

 

Mbucchia - in the interim is there anymagic you can do as waiting for ED is like waiting for us to colonise Mars.

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, Hawkeye_UK said:

@NineLine @BIGNEWY @mbucchia

Bignewy/Nineline

What is it going to take to get this sorted in a Hotfix - as more and more people switch to Pimax this has to be a priority surely - shocked to see its a year old but the workaround no longer works.

 

Mbucchia - in the interim is there anymagic you can do as waiting for ED is like waiting for us to colonise Mars.

Hi we are looking into the issue currently 

thank you 

[mbucchia]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

Mbucchia - in the interim is there anymagic you can do as waiting for ED is like waiting for us to colonise Mars.

I've explained my position below.

TL;DR, no I cannot do much without creating more problems for myself (eg: unsigned build that would break other apps), for an issue that I have already spent HOURS explaining in details to ED, and that isn't even my bug in the first place.

[Hawkeye_UK]

Mbbuchia yes i went through and read the entire post after i had left the above reply.

Usual ED saying one thing re how important VR is to them, then actually doing nothing about it.

How this wasn't picked up on the internal testing is beyond me and if know about why hasnt ED put on the patch notes, Pimax users do not upgrade at present etc.  Its really really poor.

Once again to the point - why is a commercial operation alwasy so reliant on the community trying to bail them out of the sh"te

[Dangerzone]

4 hours ago, WolfhoundCH said:

FYI if you disable Eyetracking (in the Pimax software for my headset), it works. Just without eyetracking obv. but tbh I'm surprised how little of a difference it makes for me with 25% width+height on quad focus area at 100% resolution 75% sharpness and 10% on the surrounding with 20% transition area.

That's encouraging for us who are waiting to get the crystal light that doesn't have DFR.

[Jarhead0331]

Same problem here with Pimax Crystal. Devastating to rush home after work to try the new patch and see this. Just ugh!

[JSF_Aggie]

Purchased a Crystal 2 months ago specifically for DCS, in part because of Bignewy’s review/recommendation of the Crystal & QuadView.  Please fix asap.  Thanks.

[Jarhead0331]

This is soul crushing.

I shut off eye-tracking in the Pimax Device Settings and that solved the problem. I'm getting some frame spikes and the overall quality of the image is not as good, but it solved the problem and at least let me get into the air over Afghanistan.

Fixing this bug needs to be a priority for ED.

[Calvin.Pimax]

Rest assured guys, I believe the ED's VR Dev team will sort it out.

Additionally, since they have the Crystal on hand, it should be easier for them to investigate this bug.

[LePaul]

Same issue with my Meta Quest Pro

As someone that worked for a software firm (technical documentation was my role) - I'm a bit disappointed this bug wasn't caught by the alpha or beta testers.  Do you guys need some VR beta testers?  There's a bunch of players that would be inclined to give you a hand

 

 

[Nozzledude]

Once again just a crushing blow... so disappointed in ED.
Turning off Quad Views is not a fix, for me it can't keep up with head tracking.  Completely nauseating 

$1,600 paperweight

Edited July 12, 2024 by Nozzledude