mods conflict Mirror bug

[Beirut]

Seems to be in several planes, but in the F-86 it actually says "mirror" on the mirror. Except it says it backwards. So you have to hold a mirror to the mirror to see "mirror" properly.

 

Really. 

[Flappie]

No such issue for me:

[Flappie]

In DCS ST, the mirrors are dysfunctional, but I still don't see word "mirror" printed on it.

I'll report ST mirrors for all aircraft.

Please try DCS MT.

[Flappie]

@Beirut The bug you spotted was spotted (and fixed) in an internal build a few weeks ago, but so far I cannot reproduce it in Release. Can you please attach your options.lua (from Saved Games/DCS.../Config) and dcs.log (from Saved Games/DCS.../Logs) ?

Provide a track as well. Maybe the problem comes from a set of liveries.

Edited July 12, 2024 by Flappie

[Beirut]

Posted this in another thread. Pic below was in the Harrier was from an hour ago. I'll grab a pic of the F-86 as well. 

 

I'll PM you the info when I get back. Gotta run.

 

 

[Beirut]

2 hours ago, Flappie said:

@Beirut The bug you spotted was spotted (and fixed) in an internal build a few weeks ago, but so far I cannot reproduce it in Release. Can you please attach your options.lua (from Saved Games/DCS.../Config) and dcs.log (from Saved Games/DCS.../Logs) ?

Provide a track as well. Maybe the problem comes from a set of liveries.

 

 

Sent you the lua file but I don't know how to do the track file.

 

This is the F-86 mirror pic.

 

 

[JuiceIsLoose]

A guy in my squadron is running into this same issue. The mirror is not rendering/displaying. He is looking straight "through" the mirror and seeing the nuts/bolts behind the mirror. Similiar to what Beirut posted above. He is using STEAM, ST, and is using VR.

 

[Flappie]

Yes, this is a DCS ST bug, and it's reported. If he uses MT, he shouldn't have any issue with the mirrors.

[lipas70]

In MT is the same. Only F-86.

[Flappie]

That is the exact issue @Beirut is having, but I cannot reproduce it so far.

Can you do what follows, please?

1. reproduce the issue,
2. exit the mission and hit the Save Track button, then save the track
3. exit DCS,
4. attach your dcs.log file here (from Saved Games/DCS.../Logs, it may appear as just "dcs")
5. attach your track here as well

Edited August 2, 2024 by Flappie

[lipas70]

I'll try tonight or tomorrow

[lipas70]

dcs.log F-86 mirror bug.trk

[lipas70]

This problem also occurs in 2D. Not only in VR. I just noticed that.

[Flappie]

I tried your track and I'm still unable to reproduce the issue. I think it's something in your "Saved Games/DCS..." folder.

Do you have custom F-86 liveries in "Saved Games/DCS.../Liveries", or a "Saved Games/DCS.../Mods/aircraft/F-86F" folder?

[lipas70]

Problem solved after complete reinstall of DCS.

[Flappie]

Thanks for your feedback.

@Beirut If you're still having this issue, please try to uninstall the F-86 module, then go to DCS World/Mods/aircraft/ and ensure the folder called "F-86F" is gone. Then reinstall the module.

[Beirut]

8 hours ago, Flappie said:

Thanks for your feedback.

@Beirut If you're still having this issue, please try to uninstall the F-86 module, then go to DCS World/Mods/aircraft/ and ensure the folder called "F-86F" is gone. Then reinstall the module.

 

Okay. I'll let you know.

 

Just FYI, the mirror bug exists with several planes. Harrier, Hornet, and more. if it's of use, I'll burn through them all later and let you know which.

[Beirut]

8 hours ago, Flappie said:

Thanks for your feedback.

@Beirut If you're still having this issue, please try to uninstall the F-86 module, then go to DCS World/Mods/aircraft/ and ensure the folder called "F-86F" is gone. Then reinstall the module.

 

Oh, you're going to love this... 

 

 I delete the F-86 on Steam. I also delete a mod "RCAF cockpit gray". (I didn't do that before because you didn't tell me to and because I'm just not that bright.) I reinstall, no mod, and I have a regular mirror. I load the mod, and the mirror goes back to the blue colour with "mirror" written backwards on it. I do this a few times - yes mod, no mod - and it would seem the mod is the culprit.

 

Then I load the Harrier - no F-86 cockpit mod installed - and the mirrors are still borked. Then I go back to the F-86 - still no cockpit mod -  and now they are borked again, but this time no blue colour with "mirror" written backwards - just borked in the same way many other mirrors are, a kind of low poly B&W shmush. So they worked for a few minutes and now they don't.

 

I hope you get paid a lot for this. 

[Flappie]

23 minutes ago, Beirut said:

I hope you get paid a lot for this. 

Actually, I don't. It's only a hobby!

Thanks for sharing the results of your investigation.

When the mod is disabled, if you keep seeing borked mirrors (for all aircraft), it simply means you are running DCS ST. In Steam, it seems like the desktop icons got inverted at some point. Try the shortcut which does NOT mention "multi-thread preview" and you should get MT, thus no mirror bug.

[Beirut]

15 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Actually, I don't. It's only a hobby!

Thanks for sharing the results of your investigation.

When the mod is disabled, if you keep seeing borked mirrors (for all aircraft), it simply means you are running DCS ST. In Steam, it seems like the desktop icons got inverted at some point. Try the shortcut which does NOT mention "multi-thread preview" and you should get MT, thus no mirror bug.

 

Really? I'm running ST not MT because the icons borked itself? That's kind of funny actually.

 

I'll check. Thanks. 

[Beirut]

31 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Actually, I don't. It's only a hobby!

Thanks for sharing the results of your investigation.

When the mod is disabled, if you keep seeing borked mirrors (for all aircraft), it simply means you are running DCS ST. In Steam, it seems like the desktop icons got inverted at some point. Try the shortcut which does NOT mention "multi-thread preview" and you should get MT, thus no mirror bug.

 

And now everything works. 

 

And you do this..... for a hobby? What a strange and wonderful person you are. 

 

Thank you for all the help. Much appreciated!

[Volator]

Same problem for me in DCS MT with a cockpit mod (black RCAF panel). With the default panel everything is fine... Same problem appears in the Su-33 and J-11, but not in the Su-25A/T and Su-27 with cockpit mods (Devrim's very nice English cockpit mods for Soviet FC3 aircraft)...

Edited September 2, 2024 by Volator

[Beirut]

On 8/5/2024 at 5:45 PM, Flappie said:

Actually, I don't. It's only a hobby!

 

Morning,

 

Would you like some more fun? 

 

My SU-33 mirrors are misbehaving now. Been like this for a few days. So far I've only noticed it in the SU-33. Doesn't really bother me, but as a good netizen I am just passing along the info.

 

 

[MAXsenna]

4 minutes ago, Beirut said:

My SU-33 mirrors are misbehaving now. Been like this for a few days. So far I've only noticed it in the SU-33. Doesn't really bother me, but as a good netizen I am just passing along the info.

When you launch through Steam, does it start the new Launcher, which is notorious for turning off the mirrors in the general settings?

[Beirut]

15 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

When you launch through Steam, does it start the new Launcher, which is notorious for turning off the mirrors in the general settings?

 

I...ummmm.... uhhh............................. yes?

 

So far it's the only plane I've noticed with the mirrors off. I'll check some more.