New spawn screen results in crash

[Cal1664]

New spawn screen seems to tank dcs.logthe memory which results in a crash. 

[British_Dragon_14]

I've just experienced this myself. I tried about ten times to get on multiplayer and it keeps freezing on this new screen. I managed to get in the F-16C on Contention and take off but it crashed whilst I was RTB.

I'm giving up after almost four hours of trying to fix this.

I repaired my DCS files and restarted my PC and still no luck. I just tried once more just now before I came here and it crashed straight to desktop.

dcs.log

Edited July 12 by British_Dragon_14

[mpaps]

I’m experiencing the same issue – my game crashes whenever this screen appears. I've just uninstalled and am now re-installing the game, but it seems like there's a problem with every patch, and this one is particularly severe.null

Edited July 13 by mpaps

[Senbei]

After picking a Coalition I can't select a role in any MP server aswell due to DCS not responding

[MrReynolds]

It's really really laggy for me.

Join coalition and then click a drop down --> lag.

20 seconds and the list will appear.

Repeat again with sometimes 1 minute waits, and then the game will eventually crash.

Haven't MP since the update.

Single player = GREAT.

EDIT:  just tried rotorheads.  As long as I don't click a drop down, I can scroll to the slot and I can get in.  Hope this helps with a fix.

Edit 2:
scrolling didn't work.  False hope.

Twice now I've zoomed right in to the map on the coalition screen.  Waited a bit.

THEN gone to the slot selector.  Seems to be more responsive this way.  I think it's loading some map texture or something.  

 

Edited July 13 by MrReynolds

[Se1ko]

I have a similar problem, once I join a coalition the slot screen appears but locks up, cant scroll down, selections seem to take forever. If I struggle long enough to eventually get a slot and get into the pit everything goes well from there.

It doesn't happen when I join a server that has very few players on the server. Also noting that when a message is sent by a player the screen briefly becomes usable but within seconds locks up again.

I had a similar problem about 2 updates ago.

 

Edited July 13 by Se1ko

[rubbra]

I have also got this issue, but found that a clean saved games folder cured it. Now trying to copy things back item by item and testing after each change to track down the cause. 

[clouso2]

What do you do to clean your saved games folder how do you do this.Thanks for any help game is pretty much unplayable now, especially in mp. Freezing stuttering.

Before this update inchecking cpu 8 would totally fix the freezing and stuttering not so much now.

[rubbra]

Go to c:\users\you\saved games and rename the DCS or DCS.openbeta folder to DCS.old or DCS.openbeta.old.

That way you can revert back by renaming it back.

[British_Dragon_14]

Thanks but I tried this. I just tried joining the Grayflag Server as well on Persian Gulf and it froze and crashed when I clicked on 'Join.'

The only Server that seems to work for me is Growling Sidewinders Server. But it's not my cup of Tea.

[ruiner_]

Same problem here, selecting a slot on the contention server takes forever.

Edited July 13 by ruiner_

[Hez]

Same issue. Can take up to 3-4 minutes just to pick an aircraft. HUGE 30 second delays between any click or mouse move on the new MP slot selection.
And I've crashed to desktop about 4 times now due to slot changes or just trying to pick a slot on server join.

[ruiner_]

To add to this, it seems my RAM isn't full but I have a cpu core that is completely maxed out while this is ongoing.

[Nazgûl]

One more here.

I tried to enter Contention 80 now, and, after choosing the coalition, everything freezes. This is because, the DCS, at this moment, has to load the entire F10 map with all the units that the team has on the map. This is impractical. 

(At this moment the DCS freezes and I cannot select the slot)

In the GS server, which does not have ground units, I had no problem.

Edited July 13 by Nazgûl

[SFAL]

I wish ED had DELAYED way more this update. All the functions are laggy and respawn results in crash.... black screen... none responsive game... the luncher if it loads dosent play the animation... cant change  the settings.... basicly the left tabs dont work.

 

WHAT THE ACCTUAL FECK?

the last update was great... now... we are back to DisConnectSimulator..... and Im very dissapionted by it. I understand that inovation comes at a cost but... I cant enjoy my free time with this sim.....

Please ED fix the issues..... the multiplayer servers are "empty".... 

We dont need supper cool features... we need a stable and fast game..... PLEEEEEEEASE either roll back the update or fix fix fix this.

[VikingSail]

null@Nazgûl just saw you still testing on Contention. I am experienting the same issue. I can relate to your frustration.

EDIT: scratch the conclusion below. check out the actual temporary fix here:

Although after some initial testing I have found a temporary solution:

You need to disable pretty much every module except the one you want to fly. So keeping 1-2 plane modules and the map the server runs. Join the server, select the faction, click join. It should bring you to the slotting menu. The menu should recover from an initial freeze very quickly - for me the UI becomes responsive within 2 seconds. At this point you can start filtering out the available slots and the slotting menu should stay fine from this point on.

Some more caveats I have noticed in my tests: 
1. if the Supercarrier module is enabled, upon clicking "join" after selecting a faction, all the slots will **appear* to be joinable even if you don't own the module. Although disabling the Supercarrier module did not help with the freeze issue on very large servers with hundreds of slots and ground units.
2. continuing from the point mentioned above, it seems that the freeze issue depends on two factors: if the server does not have hundreds/thousands of static spawn slots, or if the server doesn't have a lot of ground units, it doesn't not freeze the slotting menu at all. 
a good example for the second case is Growling Sidewinder - the server has barely any ground units. the slotting menu runs smoothly.
examples for the first case are plenty - just join any small server. it's pretty much guaranteed to work.
bad examples for the two factors causing the freeze: ECW, Contention, Flashpoint Levant, the Coop. the commonality between these servers is that they run tons of ground units and have hundreds of static slots.
3. judging by the games behaviour, it seems that the freeze is related to the game loading in all the available units from that faction at once - every active unit on the map from planes to ships to ground troops. but this is just a wild guess. I don't have the internal tools to observe the process behaviour to determine what exactly is happening. but the insane RAM usage during the slotting phase made me believe it is the game trying to load in all the units at once. with 64GB of RAM, I'm already using over 52GB of RAM upon joining Contention - before spawning in any vehicle.

Edited July 14 by VikingSail

[Nazgûl]

@VikingSail Hey man...well done  You said everything. I'll try it soon.

[Nazgûl]

Even disabling all the modules, keep only one I'm going to fly,  didn't work. But, thanks 

Edited July 14 by Nazgûl

[VikingSail]

upon further investigation it seems the SuperCarrier module is the culprit in my case. 

After disabling the SuperCarrier I can leave all the other modules active and the freeze on the slotting menu is minimal.

[sirrah]

Same issues here

 

Considering how many people here seem to have similar issues, I'm a bit flabbergasted how this new feature passed ED's stress testing..

[BLUEmako]

I'm trying to join ECW but the select screen hangs. I get the greyed out "program not responding" effect.

I noticed DCS is using up about 35GB of my 64GB of RAM while trying to join ECW.

I have disabled my add on mods but still get a hang in the select role screen. Takes about 10 minutes to register a mouse click.

I noticed after about 20 minutes it loaded in and displayed every single spawn point in the map. This behaviour is just ludicrous.

[MrReynolds]

I've managed to fly in every time today.

Zoom in to the map on the coalition page.

Click join --> 10-20 second pause.

Select aircraft from the down ( 5x today it was snappy and quick  - just now had a 10 second delay).

Pick from that list and I'm in.

Once in, >70fps.

Yes - works for me and probably not for you, but hopefully it'll help someone!!!

Good luck all!

[British_Dragon_14]

Yes! I disabled the Super Carrier Module and now I'm in Contention Syria Multiplayer! Thankyou!

I was going to try disabling Combined Arms if this didn't work.

I just tested it twice quickly and was able to get in both times. Although it freezes for a few seconds, I managed to spawn into an F-16C on three different Airbases on the map.

Let's just hope they Hotfix this ASAP as lot's of people are having this issue and still can't resolve it. It could be a CPU and/ or memory issue as I noticed my CPU 1/0 Core was at 100% in my Afterburner screen overlay.

[ruiner_]

Disabling super carrier also made it much faster for me. Still very slow, but 10 second delays instead of 5 minutes. 

[Sindar]

Why ED is silent ???? The multiplayer servers have been empty for 2 days now. The forum is overflowing with posts about it. ED is not interested in why this is happening? Should players themselves be the ones to find the reasons for the bad game? Thank you for your disgusting work.

58 минут назад, ruiner_ сказал:

Disabling super carrier also made it much faster for me. Still very slow, but 10 second delays instead of 5 minutes. 

Friend, thank you so much for your research.